MacWorld, Adobe and Macromedia

[tjwett]

Re: Re: yeah...

Originally posted by iGAV


I totally agree with what u've said....... I've had clients with a total hard on for anything Flash...... regardless of whether or not it's the best package for the project... unfortunately Flash became abit of a buzz software in the new media industry...... and alot of people believe it's the be all and end all......

It's also true that alot of people don't even know that LiveMotion exists.... or indeed what it does........ 🙁

Live Motion was breaking apart text before Flash. And it still has one amazing feature that Flash doesn't: you can scale bitmap images and keep them sharp very easily. I think Live Motion creates a much more cinematic experience than Flash. Like I said, Adobe is for artists and Macromedia is for Windows programmers. Viva Live Motion!

 

[iGav]

Re: Re: Re: yeah...

Originally posted by tjwett


Live Motion was breaking apart text before Flash. And it still has one amazing feature that Flash doesn't: you can scale bitmap images and keep them sharp very easily. I think Live Motion creates a much more cinematic experience than Flash. Like I said, Adobe is for artists and Macromedia is for Windows programmers. Viva Live Motion!

It's such a refreshing change to find someone that loves and uses LiveMotion...... 😉 although I believe Flash has it's uses..... IMHO Flash work suffers from a generic look and feel........ you can spot a flash generated site a mile off....... it seems to invite a certain style of animation and interactivity... this is another area that LiveMotion kicks its
a*se....... 😀

 

[tjwett]

Re: Re: Re: Re: yeah...

Originally posted by iGAV


It's such a refreshing change to find someone that loves and uses LiveMotion...... 😉 although I believe Flash has it's uses..... IMHO Flash work suffers from a generic look and feel........ you can spot a flash generated site a mile off....... it seems to invite a certain style of animation and interactivity... this is another area that LiveMotion kicks its
a*se....... 😀

my main reason for choosing LM over Flash is that working in Flash feels like working in OS 8.0 after using OS X. it just feels very unintuitive. by the time i'm done creating guide layers and making movie clips and graphic symbols i've lost my ideas and my inspiration. Live Motion makes me feel like i'm creating in a comfortable environment, like photoshop. it's an art tool. not a programmers tool. Flash MX is indeed an improvement but I stil cant get to grips with that timeline. i work in After Effects alot so when i need to switch to LM i still feel at home. Macromedia is a sketchy company anyway. Adobe has been down with the Mac since day one. I know what you mean about Flash having a certain look and feel. It seems to compel people to use a lot of the same designs, alot of which look very 1998.

 

[Wry Cooter]

It's also true that alot of people don't even know that LiveMotion exists.... or indeed what it does........
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What is important to know that it creates work playable in a flash player, no?

Just hope that both Macromedia and Adobe keep their particular standards OPEN and try to compete on the interface of their creative tools.

Take their battle down to the first big battle, Illustrator vs Freehand... Freehand used to have a better interface in my opinion, then it was made less so in the war to either merge functionality, or separate functionality between the two apps.

Seeing Go Live, I would probably still prefer DreamWeaver, although I prefer Illustrator to Freehand these days.

Even with the integration with other Adobe apps, I still think I would prefer Quark to InDesign, given a certain efficient unchanging economy to the simple basics of Quarks interface. (Then other methods, such as how the companies do business with their customers, come to the forefront as to which is used. Many enjoy and wish to continue to use, suites of products from all of the above.

 

[tjwett]

Originally posted by Wry Cooter

It's also true that alot of people don't even know that LiveMotion exists.... or indeed what it does........
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What is important to know that it creates work playable in a flash player, no?

Just hope that both Macromedia and Adobe keep their particular standards OPEN and try to compete on the interface of their creative tools.

Take their battle down to the first big battle, Illustrator vs Freehand... Freehand used to have a better interface in my opinion, then it was made less so in the war to either merge functionality, or separate functionality between the two apps.

Seeing Go Live, I would probably still prefer DreamWeaver, although I prefer Illustrator to Freehand these days.

Even with the integration with other Adobe apps, I still think I would prefer Quark to InDesign, given a certain efficient unchanging economy to the simple basics of Quarks interface. (Then other methods, such as how the companies do business with their customers, come to the forefront as to which is used. Many enjoy and wish to continue to use, suites of products from all of the above.

It blew my mind when Quark 5 was released without OSX support. I know a bunch of people that switched to InDesign just for this reason alone. That was a weird move indeed.

 

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by tjwett


It blew my mind when Quark 5 was released without OSX support. I know a bunch of people that switched to InDesign just for this reason alone. That was a weird move indeed.

I was surprised they bothered with an upgrade at that point,considering a multitude clamoring for OS X apps only, but they are concerned of InDesign coming in anyway and thought they had to address the Make it once publish it in print or WEB paradigm as a stop gap measure. They called practically all their registered customers.

But it isn't surprising as to their customer base. Quark has to keep working in a daily working environment, with legacy imagesetters, old rips, easily accessible fonts, quirky networks and raids, and bread and butter plug ins over which Quark has no control. It is vital that they keep one foot firmly set in the status quo.

You will probably see a big leap around MWSF, when there is new hardware, and Jaguar.

I haven't even bothered trying to pull over fonts or upgrade my graphics apps yet for similar reasons. Classic is working out fine, and will continue to do so as my stuff is upgraded incrementally. Emotionally I can't wait, but the economy isn't playing along, financially I can.