Macworld Expo Boston 2005

[blackcrayon]

I'm not sure what you mean here... On the page you reference, the authors write:

"Though the 2.0GHz G4 upgrade produced respectable performance, it's no match for a dual G5 Power Mac running at the same clock speed."

From the test results it is pretty clear that a G5 chip running at the same clockspeed is a whole lot faster than a G4 chip.

Hmm read what you quoted: it's no match for a DUAL G5 Power Mac...

It's quite a match for a SINGLE G5 powermac, which is the most likely config you'd see in a laptop at this point... Hey if they can put a DUAL G5 or dual G4 into a laptop (with dual core G5s or G4s for example), I'm all for that 🙂 But those tests show a single G5 vs. a single G4 isn't much difference.

 

[pubwvj]

MacWorld Boston has always been a disappointment to me in terms of Apple. Fortunately there have been good third party things to see but you gotta dig. Unfortunately it is the only expo I'll ever visit as others are just too far to travel for. Fortunately, we've got the Internet now so the expos are pretty redundant and unnecessary. 🙂

 

[Todd098]

Mac Minis?

I wouldn't be to surprised if Apple made an appearance and announced new mac minis. There have been a couple of things recently that have pointed to new mac minis like this Engadget post and this post on 123macmini.com. The Engadget post mentions the date of July 11 and that is the first day of the Macworld Expo in Boston.
Just a thought.
Edit: I see this is already being talked about in https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/135171/[/URL

 

[law guy]

It is not a good thing (from Apple's marketing perspective), that a base-model "comsumer" iMac can smoke a current top-of-the-line "pro" Powerbook (and I mean seriously smoke - there is no comparison between a G4 and a G5, no matter what MHz the G4 is).

I have understood that the G4 was a "faster" processor than the G5 at the same / similar speed due to the G4 short pipeline compared to the long G5 architecture ("Instead of the original G4's 4-stage or G4+ chip's 7-stage integer pipeline, the PowerPC 970 follows the superpipelined approach of the 20-stage Pentium 4 with a 16-stage integer pipeline -- 21 stages for floating-point instructions, as many as 25 stages for single-instruction-multiple-data (SIMD) multimedia instructions." from CPU planet.com) The notion that the G4 is faster at the same clock speed may be incorrect, but it seems to be often stated in these threads. Xbench comparisons can be helpful. http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/. Comparing a single 1.6 G5 PM to a 1.6 G4 PB, I see scores that are in the 150s for the CPU test for the g5 (http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc1=69162) and scores in the 190s and 1.67 G4s (http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc1=97901). The G4 appears faster, although the system scores are closer - although the system scores factor in HD speed, graphics, etc. Xbench scores are usually over a range, but they help give a little perspective.

 

[wdlove]

MacWorld Boston has always been a disappointment to me in terms of Apple. Fortunately there have been good third party things to see but you gotta dig. Unfortunately it is the only expo I'll ever visit as others are just too far to travel for. Fortunately, we've got the Internet now so the expos are pretty redundant and unnecessary. 🙂

I have thought the same things. Would love to visit MWSF someday, but for the the cost I could purchase a new Mac. The only draw would be Steve Jobs. Doesn't seem that he will be available anywhere else in the US. Visiting Paris is completely out of the question for many reasons. So I treasure the last time that I saw Steve at MWNY 2002.

Still you just can't have a person to person visit with a vender online, just isn't the same. It's probably the ego that Steve has that he makes any appearances at all.
🙁

 

[alexf]

Hmm read what you quoted: it's no match for a DUAL G5 Power Mac...

It's quite a match for a SINGLE G5 powermac, which is the most likely config you'd see in a laptop at this point... Hey if they can put a DUAL G5 or dual G4 into a laptop (with dual core G5s or G4s for example), I'm all for that 🙂 But those tests show a single G5 vs. a single G4 isn't much difference.

No, look at the tests that you quoted, and remember that in the first 4 or so graphs, the SHORTEST bar means better performance: http://www.barefeats.com/g4up.html

In the first two test a 2.0 SP G5 beats a 2.0 SP G4 by a considerable margin, and in none of them is a G4 faster than a same clockspeed G5.

However, I will admit that I the "smoke" adjective may have been a little too much. A G5 will always be faster than a G4, unless its FSB is severely crippled, yet the margins are not as great as I had thought.

Perhaps the more important issue - at least at far as future value is concerned - is the fact that the G5 is 64 bit capable and the G4 is not.

As developers begin to use Tiger's real capabilities more and develop 64 bit apps, the G4 will be not be up-to-date; this is fine for a "consumer-end" machine such as the mini or the iBook, but IMO it is a true rip-off to pay so much for a new Powerbook that will not be able to keep up in a few years.

 

[zap2]

fist macworld BOSTON so i have to ask is there any chance for an apple product( or iPhone) what have the recent once showen( from apple)

 

[Platform]

Well if they release anything.................970MP 🙄 😀 😀

 

[wdlove]

fist macworld BOSTON so i have to ask is there any chance for an apple product( or iPhone) what have the recent once showen( from apple)

When Apple was a part of MacWorld Boston and then MWNY, it meant that Steve Jobs was also giving a Keynote. So yes release of new products would occur. Since MacWorld has returned to Boston Apple and Steve in particular has turned its and his back. Nothing will be released here in Boston. Apple could still release something from Cupertino though.

The convention now is get together of Mac fans. Time for networking a sharing of ideas. Time for vendors to show off their products.

Is anyone from MacRumors planning to attend MacWorld Boston?

 

[jamka]

I'll be there. I wouldn't go unless I could go for free. I'm not expecting anything too amazing, but it'll be cool to see mac people and talk shop. I also love getting free stuff 🙂.

 

[berkleeboy210]

I'll be there today, If anyone wants to meet up let me know. PM me.

 

[jamka]

meh

I'm on the exhibit floor. There's not a lot here. It's kind of sad. There are like 10 different people selling bulk cd burners and printers. I got some cool free stuff though. 🙂

 

[Sophipod]

Wow.

Pathetic. Just, Pathetic...
Cool Giveaways at the Mac Directory booth.. Got a free shirt and stuff..

But this expo is just a disgrace.

 

[berkleeboy210]

Agreed. At least I didn't have to pay anything to get in though.

 

[wdlove]

I'm happy to see at least three MacRumors members went today. I had a feeling that the above comments might be the case. So I stayed home today. Not sure if I will go or not. Although I'm one of those that had to pay. It's certainly very depressing. 😱 🙁

 

[Lacero]

Some photos from the Expo.

 

[Sophipod]

I'm happy to see at least three MacRumors members went today. I had a feeling that the above comments might be the case. So I stayed home today. Not sure if I will go or not. Although I'm one of those that had to pay. It's certainly very depressing. 😱 🙁

Not much tos ee there, but if you want to get in free: simply visit the reservations page and follow the online instructions. When prompted to enter a priority code, please use N0316.

That is compliments of yourmaclife.

enjoy... ehh..... well at least try..

 

[berkleeboy210]

Not much tos ee there, but if you want to get in free: simply visit the reservations page and follow the online instructions. When prompted to enter a priority code, please use N0316.

That is compliments of yourmaclife.

enjoy... ehh..... well at least try..

There was one woman who was really rude to myself and a friend of mine, at the badge pick up desk. I already had my Badge but my friend needed his. So he registered and we proceeded to the Badge desk to pick it up.

She questioned me to no end, asking me where my badge was, asking for State I.D. I'm like what is the White house?

 

[berkleeboy210]

I'm happy to see at least three MacRumors members went today. I had a feeling that the above comments might be the case. So I stayed home today. Not sure if I will go or not. Although I'm one of those that had to pay. It's certainly very depressing. 😱 🙁

I believe Admission was $25... Save your Money, It's really not worth it. Myself and my Friend made about 3 circles around the Exhibit Hall in under 45 minutes.

 

[wdlove]

I believe Admission was $25... Save your Money, It's really not worth it. Myself and my Friend made about 3 circles around the Exhibit Hall in under 45 minutes.

Now I just wish that I hadn't pre-registered for MacWorld Boston. 🙁
Don't think I will ever do ti again. I suppose it is worthwhile for those that pay the $1,000. It's a chance to attend high power educational programs and network. More for the professional than the home user.

Lacero, please post some more pictures. 😉

 

[keysersoze]

Well, I am here. Nothing too exciting. Got some good Quark info for work. But my pseudo-boss wants to stay for a small business automation class at 6pm. That's a long f'n time from now. Anyone else here as bored as I am? 🙂 😕

 

[MacKenzie999]

CrapWorld

Well, I am here. Nothing too exciting.

I have been a Mac user since 1987 or so and am passionate about them.

I live in Boston, in fact I pass the new Convention Center on my way to work.

I can get into MacWorld for free, and I can take time off of work to do so.

Still, I have no intention of going (I saw how bad it was last year).

 

[Counterfit]

It's not as big as it was last year. Of course, the Hynes doesn't compare to the BCEC. For anyone still here, COME TO THE BMAC MEETING!! 7pm, room 106.

 

[wdlove]

I keep saying that I'm going to attend one of the BMAC meetings, but never seem to get there. Now I have a meeting on the second and fourth Tuesday of each month. 🙁

Well now MacWorld Boston 2005 is now history. Now it's time for the evaluations. What will IDG do in the future? What will happen to MacWorld.

 

[ncee]

MacWorld Boston

I didn't even see the big boys of the printer world listed. From what I saw, it turned out to be a 3rd parties, 3rd party show.

I too would have love to seen Apple, Epson, HP, Adobe, Macromedia, Typestyler and others, but none were listed as vendors.

If this is the end results of their tiff, they might as well stop the show, cause all they are doing is making folks angry, and yes, most folks will blame Apple, which is likely to be what IDG is doing, or would at least like the out come to be … in my opinion