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Macworld San Francisco 2008 Rumor Wrapup: Winners and Losers

Stridder44 said:
You're right, I was a year off. It shows the following:

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Aside from the black keys, it's pretty much looks the same idea. So you're right, it wasn't 8, it was 7 (which is what I said in my original post but that was just a lucky guess).

You can argue with me all day (I don't know why you'd defend something like that though) but you can't deny the design is very old.
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What? As somebody else stated, its been 5 years since the introduction of the existing design, before that the PowerBooks were made from Ti and different keys and difference placement of ports, I don't know why I'm evening discussing this because its clearly a case re-design from then onwards. I read your link, it proved nothing except you can't read properly.

You reg date suggests you were around back then so I don't know what is going through your mind, sure you missed the 2003 keynote when they came out with the Al redesign, but the TiBooks weren't redesigned until Paris Expo so you must of been on these boards when everybody was bitching about the lack of a re-design for the 15" machine (the 15" didn't get updated at the same time as the 12" and the 17" inch versions! To say also "You can argue with me all day" is also shockingly immature. I mean, have you seen what we're discussing here? A case re-design for a laptop, get a life

This is lame and one of the reasons why I don't post much anymore, too many Mac users get defensive so quickly and come out with the crap like you're doing. I only commented that you were wrong so as to be helpful and it comes to this.
 
i would like to see this improvements in the new MBP:

.faster CPU: option between 2.6hz or 2.8hz
.larger hard-drive
.higher screen resolution
.multi-touch pad
.new "flat" keyboard with grey keys (yes grey, for an overall consistency)
.apple will stick with the aluminum. it's efficient in deformations, and traps the heat inside.
.i am hoping, for a long time, to see anodized aluminum and NOT anodized paint. i'm tired of scratches and cracks!

just my 2 cents. ;)

PS: reducing the MBPs price in 150/200 €, would be very welcome! :D
 
I wouldn't be surprised if MacBook Pro updates happened tomorrow, if not next Tuesday. They must be ready, but they didn't want to take the bite out of the Air annoucement.

Now that the dust has settled, Apple will bring its MBPs up to speed. 12" I very much doubt, considering Air has just been introduced, so I'll be going for the new 15" with new flat, black keys and multi-touch touchpad.

I expect the design to change a little also, but not drastically. There's not that much they can do with the shape. And the current design is 5 years old - as released with the 12" and 17" PowerBooks at MacWorld SF 2003. The older Ti-Book is a completely different design (the only similarity being the G4 processor at the time and the 1" thickness form factor. Other than that though - different material (painted on so that it chipped), sqaurer shape, different trackpad, different hinge (that sat on top when closed), black keyboard with flimsy keys and old style Apple font, ports on the back, etc, etc, etc).
 
johnnyjibbs said:
I wouldn't be surprised if MacBook Pro updates happened tomorrow, if not next Tuesday. They must be ready, but they didn't want to take the bite out of the Air annoucement.

Now that the dust has settled, Apple will bring its MBPs up to speed. 12" I very much doubt, considering Air has just been introduced, so I'll be going for the new 15" with new flat, black keys and multi-touch touchpad.

I expect the design to change a little also, but not drastically. There's not that much they can do with the shape. And the current design is 5 years old - as released with the 12" and 17" PowerBooks at MacWorld SF 2003. The older Ti-Book is a completely different design (the only similarity being the G4 processor at the time and the 1" thickness form factor. Other than that though - different material (painted on so that it chipped), sqaurer shape, different trackpad, different hinge (that sat on top when closed), black keyboard with flimsy keys and old style Apple font, ports on the back, etc, etc, etc).
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I so hope you are correct!
 
12" Mbp

I really hope they reintroduce the 12" (or make a slim 13") to compete with Panasonic Toughbook, Sony TZ, Toshiba R500, etc. etc. Maybe they tried to do this with MacBook Air but if so they missed the mark, imo. What they still don't have is a small road warrior machine with lots of built-in functionality:
* Built-in optical drive
* Small (not just thin!) form factor -- lose the bezel!
* Long lasting replaceable battery
* Ports galore
* 2.5 in. hard drive (up to 250GB capacity these days)
* etc.

I was waiting for the announcement to buy a new laptop to replace my Toughbook W2. Macbook Air left me wanting. I ended up getting a plain ol' MacBook though compared to my 4-year-old Panny it really is a clunker size-wise.

I think the Macbook Air is one of those once-every-few-years Steve Jobs follies where he focuses on design above user needs (see: Mac Cube, Mac Mini, NeXT Cube). This time he obsessed about Thinness. It's a design study more than it is a mass market notebook.
 
statler said:
I was waiting for the announcement to buy a new laptop to replace my Toughbook W2. Macbook Air left me wanting. I ended up getting a plain ol' MacBook though compared to my 4-year-old Panny it really is a clunker size-wise.

I think the Macbook Air is one of those once-every-few-years Steve Jobs follies where he focuses on design above user needs (see: Mac Cube, Mac Mini, NeXT Cube). This time he obsessed about Thinness. It's a design study more than it is a mass market notebook.
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No one agrees with me, but I think there's as much hope for a small MBP as there ever was. Admittedly, that might not be much, but I don't think the MBA has made it less. Why?

Because the MBA is singlemindedly designed to be thin. It satisfies less power users than the MacBook itself. It didn't try to be powerful AND thin... just thin.

So Steve Jobs could plausibly say, "Two weeks ago we answered the question, 'How thin can we make a MacBook?' Today, we're answering the question, 'How powerful can we make a MacBook?'

And the answer would be a 13" MBP with nearly every goodie that the 15" has (In other words, would be much more like an MBP than the 12" PB was to its bigger brothers). I guess that would leave the plain 'ol MacBook to be the cheapest MacBook they could build.

Looks like a good product line-up to me. And before anyone says it won't happen, I agree, it probably won't. And to those who say a 13" MBP would cannibalize MBA sales, I say, No, it won't, and if it did, who cares? It's still a sale for Apple.
 
Aside from everyone's wished on the next revision, let's get back to the question everyone wants to know....

When do you think we will see them? Should potential users buy the current one now or wait? Are we talking a month, this summer?

What are people's educated guesses?
 
joemama said:
Aside from everyone's wished on the next revision, let's get back to the question everyone wants to know....

When do you think we will see them? Should potential users buy the current one now or wait? Are we talking a month, this summer?

What are people's educated guesses?
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At this moment, low-end macbook pro 15" and macbook pro 17" models are backordered in BestBuy, with estimated shipping date in 1-2 weeks...
Maybe these are coming soon :)
 
propropro said:
At this moment, low-end macbook pro 15" and macbook pro 17" models are backordered in BestBuy, with estimated shipping date in 1-2 weeks...
Maybe these are coming soon :)
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Hey that would be great. does anyone know about quantities in other stores? CDW, MacMall, etc....?

Could also be that people were waiting for the MacBook Air specs to come out, and now decided to buy a regular MBP instead, so MBP quantities are low.
 
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