MacWorld Tokyo Rumor Roundup

arn

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MacWorld Tokyo is upon us... and Steve Jobs will deliver the MacWorld Tokyo Keynote on March 21 at 9:30am Tokyo time. (no webcast available)

So... What to expect from this Expo?

Well... not much., according to Apple's Senior of Hardware Product Marketing, Greg Joswiak.. who early on squelched much speculation by stating in Feb: "We're not planning to introduce any new CPUs at Macworld Tokyo, as a matter of fact, we're set for some months now"

However, never satisfied, Apple fans were painfully aware of Toshiba's new 10gig and 20gig 1.8" drives announced in Jan... and subsequent 10gig iPod Rumors surfaced (here, and here) as well as the mysterious iPod screenshots hinting at a possible software upgrade in store.

More nebulous hints were provided by MacEdition as well as RailheadDesign for something... maybe coming... a Digital Camera? (here and here), or a buyout perhaps?

We'll see...

...and don't forget to watch the Oscars on the 24th for the latest Apple ad.

Flashback Link: MacWorld SF 2002 Rumor Roundup
 

dantec

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I really hope that we do see some new CPU's coming at Tokyo. If we don't we better at least see an iPad (don't start flaming me about PDA's. But an iPad doesn't necessarily have to be "only" a PDA. It could incorporate CD-burning, and litterally be a thin portable computer!
 

arn

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Originally posted by dantec
I really hope that we do see some new CPU's coming at Tokyo.

Do you really think that Apple would release new CPU's (iMac/PowerMac) at this time? They have barely started shipping the iMac and the PowerMac.

Originally posted by dantec
Another question: Why won't Apple make this Macworld Tokyo televised?
Maybe because nothing's going to happen? :) Seriously, though... I don't know what's involved in setting up a stream of this magnitude... but for whatever reason, Apple decided it wasn't worth it last year... and at that time they released the patterned iMacs...

arn
 

Mr. Anderson

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New hardware

It won't happen. But there are quite a few other things that leave Steve Jobs plenty to talk about.

Anyone know where to find the transcript or quicktime of the keynote after its delivered?
 

lordsinforge

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Re: New hardware

Anyone know where to find the transcript or quicktime of the keynote after its delivered? [/B][/QUOTE]

Generally there will be a video up on apple's web site a day or so after the keynote, but I have no way of knowing if they will have it this time arround.
 

kidtronix

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Originally posted by arn
Do you really think that Apple would release new CPU's (iMac/PowerMac) at this time? They have barely started shipping the iMac and the PowerMac.
how about powerbook cpu's? or gfx cards? can't say they haven't started shipping those, not only to mention lowering the prices drastically.
 

chibianh

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I ordering a powerbook this weekend and I would prefer to buy a speedbumped one. Would a speedbumped powerbook w/ new gfx card be considered "new" hardware?
 

Dunepilot

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Powerbooks

I'd be very surprised if we didn't see an 800MHz and 667MHz powerbook lineup released at Tokyo.

With the speed of Wintel laptops rapidly increasing (if not the quality!), the PBs need a bit of a shot in the arm to stay competitive.

I also think Apple wouldn't be happy with the iMacs being faster than their flagship portable.

If this doesn't happen at Tokyo (and God knows, the Japanese love their portables...), expect to see a 'special event' sometime soon.

Just some thoughts. We'll soon see if I'm right.
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eyelikeart

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everyone is talking about new PowerBooks.....G5s......I don't think it's going to happen either.....at most a speed bump on the current PowerBook...

the idea of an iPod upgrade to 10 & 20 gig hard drives seems more plausible....it would make complete sense....

but if u do think about it....if it isn't even going to be televised....I seriously doubt Jobs is going to have anything really significant going on.....just remember MWSF and all the hype surrounding it....we saw the new iMac!

as for March 24....as much as seeing 10.2 with a speed increase would bring great joy to everyone....how important is it to primetime viewers to have to be aware of it? just a thought...
 

mcrain

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Um, well, how bout firewire 2 as a big announcement in conjunction with a new OS 10.2 that makes use of it?
 

kidtronix

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it's granted, no new imacs, ibooks and definitely no new powermacs (G5... what a hell is G5?:mad: -), but the powerbook chip hasn't been revisited since last summer! i can buy a 1800mhz pc laptop with ddr memory and what not now in the stores for a grand less than the cheapest powerbook. no i'm c:cool: :cool: l i know that the pc numbers are miss leading, but there is no doubt that in pure speed, the powerbook needs a boost. if not the speed of the chip then a fast gfx card or ddr memory or something, it DOES need a boost, there is no doubt about it. and i'm not saying this because i'm getting one.

ipod, yah sure 10gb, possible.

os x update? possibly, os x.1.4 or something, i suspect we won't see x.2 for quite some time, it's not apple to make big jumps :)eek:)

i'm gonna get mad if i have to wait until mwny before i see a new powerbook, one year for a chip update is WAY too long!
 

eyelikeart

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Originally posted by mcrain
Um, well, how bout firewire 2 as a big announcement in conjunction with a new OS 10.2 that makes use of it?
granted....FireWire 2.0 would be a big deal...but it's not for the rest of the country watching the awards... :rolleyes:

again, I could definitely foresee a speed bump to the PowerBook...whether it be a new chip or a further tweaked version of what we have already....it wouldn't be enough, I feel, to make a whole lot of noise throughout the Mac community...I know many of u would be thrilled....but it really wouldn't be that big of a deal...
 

Vanilla

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Major wish: ADC on powerbook

I understand the desire for a speed bumped powerbook and that would be nice. But my main wish would be to have an Apple Display Connector installed so that I could connect directly to one of the Apple display, preferably through an updated docking station.

My work involves presentations so portability is important, hence my desire for a TiBook. However in the office I want to be able to use a full sized keyboard and a 17" studio display preferably attached to a docking station.

When I researched the TiBook I found it unbelievable that it couldnt directly connect digitally to Apples own displays. This surely has to be addressed soon.
 

Skandranon

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Pleeeeeeease

Please let us get new PowerBooks. :( It's sad to see such a cutting edge portable fall behind to new Pentium laptops. Let's get a 1 Ghz TiBook and once again reclaim the title of Best Portable out there. :D
 

Pelorus

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Errr...

What part of "no new hardware at MWT" are people having trouble understanding?
 

Vanilla

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Re: Errr...

Originally posted by Pelorus
What part of "no new hardware at MWT" are people having trouble understanding?
Well I understood it a little differently. The head of this thread talks about there being "no new CPU's" at MWT. So, no G5 or 1.2Ghz G4 etc.

However, placing an existing G4 into a powerbook, say the 800Mhz would not go against the statement would it? Nor would my wish for an existing ADC to be added to the powerbooks list of connections.

May not happen of course, but I think the statement left scope for enhancements.
 

Pelorus

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Re: Re: Errr...

Originally posted by Vanilla


Well I understood it a little differently. The head of this thread talks about there being "no new CPU's" at MWT. So, no G5 or 1.2Ghz G4 etc.

However, placing an existing G4 into a powerbook, say the 800Mhz would not go against the statement would it? Nor would my wish for an existing ADC to be added to the powerbooks list of connections.

May not happen of course, but I think the statement left scope for enhancements.
From what he said I'd believe in the possibility of a new monitor but not a new machine altogether which is what upgrading the CPU or even adding an ADC connection would require.

God, we're desperate...
 

mcrain

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This is what a heroin addict must feel when he/she needs a hit. I need (badly want) a tibook, and with this mac world coming up, I want a better hit, a faster tibook.

Give me my tibook fix!
 

round2

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no big changes in the iPod

Sorry to burst the bubble, but the iPod dosen't have room enought for the new Toshiba 10 or 20 GB Drives. I was on the C'bit yesterday and saw the 10 GB drive and it is twice as thick as the 5 GB drive. So Apple might add features to the iPod such as extended funktions and a remote control but unless they make it biger no 10 or 20 GB drive is going to fit. Sorry.:(
 

King Cobra

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What I think:

I think the Apple will probably come out with new Powerbooks. According to rumors and other sources, I think that:

(1) Apple will use the low-powered Apollo G4 chip in their new Powerbooks. The slower of the two models will have up to a 733MHz G4, and the top model will have up to 867MHz. Apple does not want to push the envelope so far on processor speeds, because Apple does not want to kill PowerMac sales.

(2) According to some very reasonable rumors, the new Powerbook will have a higher resolution screen, of 1536 by 1024 pixels. The screen size will not change.

(3) Apple will keep the 133MHz system bus and plain old Firewire 1. I find this logical because Apple usually focuses on PowerMac sales, where they can get big bucks. So Apple usually puts any new and impressive features (Firewire 2, USB 2, 10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet) in the PowerMac first, before Apple descends these features into the iMac and the Powerbook.

(4) Apple may add some sort of darker, more metallic color-coating on the Titanium skin of the Powerbook, according to popular rumors.

(5) Apple usually updates their line of products every so often, and the current 667MHz version is starting to "age".

Now, that is the Powerbook. As for the iPod:

Apple is most likely to announce an update to the iPod as such:

Apple will continue to use the 1.8 inch Hard Drive in their iPod lineup. Also Apple will probably use the 10GB version of their portable player and sell that for $400, while the 5GB version drops to $300.

As for software, I expect Apple to unveil DVD Studio Pro 2, since the latest (version 1.2) works natively under OS 9.

Finally, Apple may unveil new monitors, with cheaper prices and larger displays, maybe a 19 inch.

What is not likely for Tokyo:
(1) No G5
(2) No new iMacs
(3) No new PowerMacs
(4) Probably no new iBooks
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adelaney

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Stop talking about hardware

Hey, does anyone remember last year or the year before? Everyone is going insane, this is just MWT. Not a big deal. No one used to pay attention to Tokyo before and, in fact, if you hadn't noticed following the huge letdown in the mac community following last year's MWNY Apple has been obviously trying to move away from an everything at MacWorld model because the hype was too big and Steve Jobs obviously thinks sales will be helped if less pressure is put on MacWorld. It released iPods between MacWorlds and more recently bumped the G4 tower between MacWorlds. You will not see any change of any kind to the Powerbook line, I'm sorry but you just won't and that's the way it is. That will be at MWNY. I know everyone gets bored two days before MacWorld at any mention of software, but that's what should be talked about. If you are buying a Powerbook and you need it before July you should buy it today. Me, I'm going to hold off.