Made in USA Mac Mini News, Rumors, and Wants!

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by MeeMac, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. MeeMac macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2013
    The purpose of this thread is to keep informed those of us planning to support Apples’ Commitment to build the next generation Mac Minis in the USA.

    List any News, Rumors, Theories, Speculation, and more importantly; FEATURES THAT YOU WANT in the USA Mac Mini, so we can one-stop shop for information on our soon to be new, Made in the USA Mac Minis :)
  2. MeeMac thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2013
    Let the Unification Begin?

    Three observations and a conclusion to share:

    Observation one. It seems to me that people who buy the Mac Mini like the “independence” that the Mac Mini line provides (e.g. pick your own monitor/TV, and adding RAM). People also want the ability to install THEIR OWN customizations to THEIR computers, such as memory upgrades, SSDs, etc. They also appear to want more options to upgrade on THEIR Mac Minis than Apple currently provides.

    Observation two: Now at the same time; the Mac Pro line is WAY overdue for a product line upgrade. People who love the Mac Pro line want horsepower and the ability to upgrade on their own as well.

    Observation three: Apple is focused on smaller is better on all product lines.

    Conclusion: Has anyone considered that maybe, Apple might consider merging the Mac Mini with the Mac Pro? Instead of starting with a large Mac Pro, you would start with a Mac Mini, and it would “stack” as you added features such as additional drives, fans, and more powerful processors.

    Could this become the new Made in the USA Mac Mini/Pro?

    Any Thoughts?
  3. MeeMac thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2013
    T is For TEXAS?

    Apple’s Made-in-USA Mac Will Be Built in Texas
    MAY 22, 2013 AT 6:00 AM PT
    All Things Digital
    By Jack Paczkowski

    When Apple announced its intention to manufacture one of its existing Mac lines exclusively in the U.S. last December, the company didn’t say which line, or where in the country it planned to build it. Now, some five months later, the answer to one of those questions has finally emerged.
    During a Tuesday appearance before the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed the state in which its Made-in-USA Mac will be manufactured: Texas.

    “We’re investing $100 million to build a Mac product line here in the U.S.,” Cook said. “The product will be assembled in Texas, include components made in Illinois and Florida, and rely on equipment produced in Kentucky and Michigan.”

    Apple’s pledge to build some Macs in the U.S. doesn’t mean that the company is setting up its own production facilities. Cook has said in the past that Apple will work with manufacturing partners on this particular effort. And now that he has disclosed the state in which Mac production will be handled, the identity of Apple’s likely manufacturing partner is becoming clearer, as well.

    Foxconn operates plants in Texas and has long handled a lot of Apple’s hardware production and assembly. Recently, the company said it was expanding its existing manufacturing operations in the U.S. to meet the needs of certain unnamed customers. Not definitive proof that Foxconn will manufacture Apple’s Made-in-USA Mac, but certainly a clear indication that it might.
  4. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

    May 1, 2012
    And they could call it the "Macintosh." :eek:
  5. Bear macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    THis is a bad idea. It has been tried in the past and it never worked well. Also, the Mini is unlikely to be the line made in the USA, I expect it to be the Mac Pro.
  6. opinio macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2013
    My thoughts exactly on both points. I was just waiting for someone else to break it to him :)
  7. Yak Nepper macrumors newbie

    Apr 30, 2013
    Ho Chi Minh City
    Would an american made mac be any more expensive than a chinese made mac?

    Do you think low paid american workers do a better job than low paid chinese workers?

    For people outside the US, we dont really care about where our products are made, we want the best production at the best price.

  8. opinio macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2013
    That's a lot of people you speak on behalf of in terms of consumer preference. Are you sure you have asked them all about this 'not caring about where products are made' comment? I don't recall being consulted? :confused:
  9. Yak Nepper macrumors newbie

    Apr 30, 2013
    Ho Chi Minh City
    Ok let me write it again then, some people outside the US, and probably some people inside the US too, do not care so much where our products are made. Some of us care more about price and quality.

    I dont see any reason an american made Mac would be any better, or cheaper, than a chinese made Mac?

  10. karpich1 macrumors regular

    Dec 18, 2007
    I don't see it being made any better here vs there.

    My only thing would be a little self-satisfaction, knowing that in this time of high unemployment that I bought something made / assembled / whatever by someone in the US. Thus justifying their job a little bit.

    The job situation stinks out there... so a few hundred people getting hired by a plant is good news.

    Price would obviously come into play: if the price difference is greater than X I'd want the savings. But I'd pay a little more knowing that it's helping someone here.
  11. blanka macrumors 68000

    Jul 30, 2012
    If they move it, it will first of all be because it is CHEAPER. They can stick a "good for the USA" feeling onto it, but it will be cheaper.
    Chinese wages are going through the roof, and as Braun showed, robots can make made-in-germany razors cheaper than they were before hand-made in china. The mini is the best model for this, easy to robotize, all models will collide into it (the iMac/Apple TV will just be a good monitor soon), so it is all very easy.
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    Last edited: May 30, 2013

    SoCalReviews macrumors 6502a

    Dec 31, 2012
    Apple has spent years getting the quality control perfected on the current production lines in China. There is no telling whether the new products will as good or better just because they will be assembled in the U.S.. More automation for assembly in the U.S. factories would be a good guess as to how they will lower costs. With the health of other country's economies and other world currencies in question moving some production and assembly back to the U.S. might be a stabilizing factor for Apple's future outlook.
  13. brand macrumors 601


    Oct 3, 2006
    That is your assumption and not a fact. You have no idea if it will be cheaper to make, especially when you have no idea what is being made.
  14. blanka macrumors 68000

    Jul 30, 2012
    99% of moving production lines is because it is cheaper.
    I see no obstacle why the US could not be cheaper.
  15. thehustleman macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2013
    Why stop at one model?

    Make EVERYTHING here and call it a day
  16. Santabean2000 macrumors 68000


    Nov 20, 2007
    Automation on a large scale cannot compete with low wage humans for things like computers. Humans require no engineers to design and build them, can be easily retrained to adjust to tweaked/new designs, are easily replaceable (in China) and can be quickly scaled up or down as required.

    Massive capital expenditure on machines makes a lot more sense on projects where their core function is not likely to change for extended time frames, as is the case in making razors.

    More complex and fiddly micro tasks like computer assembly are just not suited to automation. There is a reason EVERY major computer maker gets their products made in locations with cheap labour. ;)

    I would say a major factor in producing a Mac in the US is purely PR. If it were anything much else then we would see a lot more coming back, not just some low scale niche model.
  17. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    I would think a Made in USA would mean the MacPro since it's low volume and needs lots of customization. Assuming Apple introduces a new MacPro it might make sense to build it here. Still, lots of the parts will come from overseas; I don't think there are any plants in the U.S. that still make HDDs for example.
  18. Bear macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    The cost of the Machine is part of why I think it's the Mac Pro that will be made in the US. It might cost Apple a little more to have it made in the US, but the price of the machine would absorb that. Also, I suspect Apple will save on shipping costs to a large enough portion of the customer base that the savings in shipping will make up for the extra labor costs.

    And I do care where certain things are made. For example, for clothes that last years longer, I will pay extra over low quality merchandise.

    Although I do think you're right about HDDs, I suspect more parts of the Mac Pro will be made in the US than you think.
  19. philipma1957 macrumors 603


    Apr 13, 2010
    Howell, New Jersey
  20. MeeMac thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2013
    Made in USA Mac Mini Arriving 1Q 2014

    Expecting the USA Mac Mini to be released 1Q 2014 with the following upgrades: Haswell HD 4600 with dedicated DRAM; 802.11ac WiFi; and SSD only (500G or 1T).

    Why 1Q 2014? Apple understands how important the Made in USA Mac Mini is regarding their long-term strategy; so don’t expect to see it until every t crossed and i dotted.

    The iPhones, iPads, and iPods will be upgraded for the Holiday Season to keep Apple in the forefront. Mac Book Pro will be upgraded with Haswell’s and the Mac Pro upgrade will be Apple’s 2013 Tower/Desktop computer.

    Made in USA Mac Mini will be the 2014 showstopper worth waiting for.
  21. MeeMac thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2013
    My Forecast from 6 months ago appears to be holding strong. So let me ask you; "WHO IS READY FOR a 1Q 2014 MADE IN THE USA MAC MINI?"
  22. Bear macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    Where did Apple ever state they will be making the Mac mini in the US?
  23. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    Consumers: "OMG! I HAVE TO GET ONE NOW!"

    Reality. It's not a dream.

    I don't think Apple is moving production here for a mere feather in a cap. It's a bottom dollar calculation with a sugar-frosted PR headline slathered on top.

    It won't be a show stopper. If so, I want to see this miracle mini and how it spins into some kind of objet du jour.

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