MP 1,1-5,1 Magic Mouse BTLE Trouble on 10.14.6

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  1. haralds macrumors 6502a

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    I have an updated BTLE/WiFi card and extended the internal antenna. But BTLE range has always been poor on this computer. No problem with keyboards and Magic Pads, but Magic Mice seem to have issues.

    In general, things have worked ok. But since 10.14.6 my Magic Mice connections have become really flaky. Has anybody else had this experience?
     
  2. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    My MM2 is rock solid... I can try my MM1 and see if there is a difference.

    Which ver. MM are you having issues with?

    Luckily, I’ve never really had the BT issues that are so common to cMP’s.
     
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    I am using MM1 (since it launched), 10.14.6 makes no difference. And I used that with 10.14.6 beta as well. So, doesn't looks like the OS fault.
     
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  5. haralds thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    in 10.14.6 CoreServices/Bluetooth Setup Assistant has been updated from 6.0.12 (6.0.12f1) to 6.0.14 (6.0.14d3), with changes in BluetoothUIServer, Bluetooth Menu and Bluetooth preference pane likewise
     
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    I use an external Bluetooth 4 USB dongle, it works well but since 10,14,6 I think Mojave is using the stock internal module as Bluetooth disconnects at a shorter range from the cMP since the update yesterday - I'll try disconnecting the internal one tonight.

    FIXED : https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/10-14-6-bt-4-0-dongles-problem-fixed.2191331/




    In any case, to avoid disconnects run iTunes with a large iTunes playlist at startup ( set iTunes to start up at startup ( users/ Login items )
     
  8. h9826790 macrumors G5

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    The associated 6.0.14d3 BT kext dated 13/11/2018. Not a new kext.
     
  9. haralds thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    My next problem was with shutting down ending up spinning. Then I could not log in ending up with a spinner.
    I booted another partition and reverted to 10.14.5. Problem NOT solved.
    My Catalina install was on another disk. Somebody else working for me had system trouble after a Catalina installation.
    I disconnected that drive. After much trundling the system returned to normal.
    Right now I am Carbon Copy Cloning this version before updating back to 10.14.6.
    It looks like the BLE mice problem might be due to disk contention issues caused by Catalina weirdness. The mouse misbehaved while additional drives were still being checked and mounted. Now they look fine.

    Catalina has been fine on this system for weeks. Why it would interfere I do not know. Have to take a deeper look when things stabilize.
     
  10. MIKX, Jul 24, 2019
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    I shut down my cMP - re-booted to NVMe RAM reset ( PRAM re-set ) 'til FOUR chimes - three chimes is probably enough.
    Oddly enough if I do only ONE PRAM re-set chime .. the startup chime is lower volume .. the 3rd. chime is much louder.

    My Bluetooth 4 USB dongle is now working OK,at the original range of about 10 mtrs / 32 ft.

    By comparison, Sierra 10.112.6 's Bluetooth was terrible - High Sierra was good - Mojave is great . . so far.
     
  11. haralds thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Very interesting. The net-net is that one of my eSATA add on card controller ports is flaking. As that introduces disk stalls, the mouse flakes. Interestingly the Magic Trackpad does not! I have seen this is the system is choked after login for a few seconds starting up a bunch of apps.
    Pulled the drive and all is well on the BLE front.
    But the disk issue took quite a bit of time. Have to rejigger controller cards. The PCIE cards are getting old, this is the second of four internal port failures (on on each card, one still working.) Cards are not replaceable.

    Old hardware
     
  12. kohlson macrumors 68000

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    I had a MM1 for my 4/5,1 cMP, and loved it. At some point I couldn't figure out why it became erratic, and so swapped in a Logitech. A few MR forums talked about the issue, and I tried a Trackpad and an MM2. Both worked. The came the revelation that USB3 could cause interference. I kludged up an antenna of sorts, and that worked even with USB3 drives connected. But with 14.6, the MM2 is erratic again, but only with USB3 drives connected.

    I like using the MM well enough that I'll work around the USB3 drive issue.
     

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