I think the new one is better. Although it does have a stronger magnetic connection which isn't very good.
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Magsafe 2 , Bleh....
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There's an extremely obvious patent lurking around here. A magsafe connector that is attached to a cord with the capability of rotating at arbitrary angles of the cord with respect to the magsafe body. Further iterations might ratchet the angle to point in specific directions, including 90 degrees (T shape) and 0 degrees (L shape pointed "back"). Even further iterations might enable a free movement that still had enough resistance (friction) to hold its position at an arbitrary angle. In any case the friction to hold the cord at its angle could be configured such that a hard yank while at 0 deg would pull the cord from the computer before rotating the cable to 90 deg. Everyone wins.
So can I get credit for a poor man's patent, or do I have to have a bunch of lawyers draw some stupid line drawings with a bunch of seemingly arbitrary integers pointed at various parts?
So can I get credit for a poor man's patent, or do I have to have a bunch of lawyers draw some stupid line drawings with a bunch of seemingly arbitrary integers pointed at various parts?
I would have been much happier if the solution had been "same shape, weaker magnet" or if they had made the connector concave or some other design that allowed for an L-Shaped disconnect that was weak enough to provide protection.
I can't charge my MBA in my car because the shape of the seat pushes the connector out. I put it in my bag on the floor but, I kid you not, the force of nothing but the tension in the cable shifting when I braked or accelerated was enough to dislodge it 4 or 5 times.
And it's only easy to dislodge along one axis. If you try and pull it out sideways (i.e. pulling the connector directly towards or away from you if you're sitting it on a desk) then it feels like you could tow a boat with the force necessary to dislodge it.
Heck, I wish they'd offer the choice: "Mag-Safe" or "Magnetic." The cord-pulling protection is of absolutely no value to me, I'd rather have a compact connection than a "safe" one.
I can't charge my MBA in my car because the shape of the seat pushes the connector out. I put it in my bag on the floor but, I kid you not, the force of nothing but the tension in the cable shifting when I braked or accelerated was enough to dislodge it 4 or 5 times.
And it's only easy to dislodge along one axis. If you try and pull it out sideways (i.e. pulling the connector directly towards or away from you if you're sitting it on a desk) then it feels like you could tow a boat with the force necessary to dislodge it.
Heck, I wish they'd offer the choice: "Mag-Safe" or "Magnetic." The cord-pulling protection is of absolutely no value to me, I'd rather have a compact connection than a "safe" one.
I do like the T better than the L. Connecting the T side by side by the ethernet RJ45 is easier than the L. Well at least on my cMBP. I forgot rMBP use dongle.
Yes... god forbid someone use a LAPTOP on their actual lap in a comfortable position...
I've noticed the new T connector is a much more difficult to remove that the L shape.
I actually have to grab the rmbp from the side with one hand and pull the mag hard to remove. In a "trip over cable" scenario, I would actually think the rmbp would get dragged with it...
maybe it will loosen up as its used.
I actually have to grab the rmbp from the side with one hand and pull the mag hard to remove. In a "trip over cable" scenario, I would actually think the rmbp would get dragged with it...
maybe it will loosen up as its used.
It shouldn't be that hard - try lifting the connector directly up instead.
That's like saying "If you want the airbag to deploy then make sure you get hit from the left side of the car".
Personally, I hate the new MagSafe. Not because of the T connector or the magnet strength, but because it's unnecessary. Despite all the excuse makers out there, if the old MagSafe was the size of a USB connector then there's no reason the power port right next to that USB port required thinning down.
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I dropped my MBA because the L-type MagSafe didn't even detach like it should have.
I'm glad they're bringing the T-type MagSafe, at least this one detached correctly from experience.
I'm glad they're bringing the T-type MagSafe, at least this one detached correctly from experience.
when i try and disconnect the plug, i just bend it towards the top a little bit. then it just comes right off.
From the picture it looks like you're trying to put it into a cosy heat-grave with that blanket...
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I think you will find that Apple make notebooks, not laptops.
Having the cord disconnect easily is a good thing, as I've seen several MacBooks/Pros being pulled off desks by someone tripping over the cord. Neither connector seemed to help with someone tripping on the cord, but the T definitely comes off easier.
I don't think Apple are even selling it as a "safety" feature now though, just a convenience, though I suppose it is still called magsafe. Remember the old Powerbook plugs? Ugh...
I agree with everyone that prefers the L-type connector to the T connectors though. Even with the revised cables, I have always had wear issues with the T connectors, but we've not had to replace an L connector yet.
Lift the connector up rather than trying to pull it out.
The wasted productivity from plugging back in the MagSafe 2 that slips out twice a day will far exceeded the cost of a new MacBook Pro for me if it keeps happening with the same frequency as it does with my rMBP…
Unless Apple can truly build a magical plug that can tell the difference between an unintended removal and an intended removal 100% of the time, I want my power connection to be secure as possible.
MagSafe 2 was a terrible idea. MagSafe 1 wasn't even a particularly good idea. After switching to all-flash storage, I'd think MagSafe would be more unnecessary than ever…
Really, wasted productivity from the plug disconnecting twice a day? It takes what, all of two seconds to fix?
While magsafe definitely doesn't work to save the system every time, it definitely has done for a number of people, and that's a good thing. I've seen too many laptops destroyed from being yanked off desks by the power cord to think that a solid connection is a good thing.
Portable computers have not been called laptops for many, many years now, because manufacturers don't want you using them like that. They are referred to as notebooks or portable computers. You really should not use a portable computer like you are in the picture, but that's your choice.
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This is the funniest post I've seen all week. Thank you. Not sure why flash storage = MagSafe no longer necessary though.
You should sue apple for all of your wasted productivity.
Mag 2 = failure
I've owned 5 mac pros, but recently purchased a new Air and so far my experience with the new Mag 2 has been nothing but frustrating. It is constantly coming undone. The slightest nudge or pull with dislodge it. I used to be able to sit on a couch, or on my bed with the mag connected with no problem whatsoever, but the new design falls out whenever it wants. I believe the slimmer design lends itself to having less holding power, stronger magnet or not. It has less surface area to make a connection and as a result it just doesn't hold very well. I love my Air, especially for traveling. I'm currently in Europe and it works great, but having to constantly replace the power cord, every time I move, is frustrating at best...just my .02 cents!
I've owned 5 mac pros, but recently purchased a new Air and so far my experience with the new Mag 2 has been nothing but frustrating. It is constantly coming undone. The slightest nudge or pull with dislodge it. I used to be able to sit on a couch, or on my bed with the mag connected with no problem whatsoever, but the new design falls out whenever it wants. I believe the slimmer design lends itself to having less holding power, stronger magnet or not. It has less surface area to make a connection and as a result it just doesn't hold very well. I love my Air, especially for traveling. I'm currently in Europe and it works great, but having to constantly replace the power cord, every time I move, is frustrating at best...just my .02 cents!
apple's heyday has seemed to be gone. look at their design. no more improve anymore. apple is faced with limitation. they have used the same ****ing design for few years. unfortunately, people get tired of it. magsafe is stupid, too. I won't buy any apple product near the future. retina ipad is the last. I am sick and tired of what Apple has been done in order to eliminate its all competition. just like steve, apple doesn't know how to get the benefit back to public. they never donate money. Samsung should stop supplying their parts for idevices in the future. then what'll be happened to Apple which doesn't have any their own manufacture parts (all subcontract to do that)? Samsung is the biggest company to supply most electronic parts. Apple forgot. stop stupid suing action. it will make apple isolated.
Well ... I like it. They should probably sell both options since there are good reasons to favor either.