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Magsafe? Bye!

CaptRB

CaptRB

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Not that many people give two whoops about Magsafe, but let's review....

1) Magsafe was great if you lived in a place where it was somehow impossible to charge your Mac without stringing the power cord across a doorway, escalator or gangway. I've got kids and such and I just don't have this issue with keeping pathways clear!

2) Magsafe didn't always charge! Let's cut the BS because I've had 7 MacBooks and Magsafe didn't always lock in correctly and sometimes I'd not pay attention and end up with a dead Mac! USB-C works perfectly, always connects.

3) Magsafe was proprietary, which meant if anything happened to my charger, I was doomed. Happened to me twice. But with USB-C I can charge off a variety of power bricks with ANY cheap USB-C cable.

4) I like that it would glow orange or green. This doesn't effect anything though.

5) I hated that about HALF the time, the MagSafe was on the wrong side! With USB-C I can always have it on the right side!

Magsafe was just one more port we no longer need. USB-C adds versatility and saves space and weight. I have external drives, cameras, 4K monitors, printers....EVERYTHING works flawlessly with USB-C. It just works!

Happy to see MagSafe go the way of the dodo? You bet!


Robert
 
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I love USB C but I am missing MagSafe as well..I think I have a new way to rig it where the wire runs underneath my couch but haven't set it up yet.

I wish it could have somehow stayed or at least kept the charging indicator light.
 
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Agreed. I don't miss Magsafe. I like that I can charge from any direction and that I won't have to replace the entire power brick every time the cord fails, because the cord on my old MBP's power brick did fail several times and I had to replace the entire $80 item twice. Now I should only have to replace the USB-C cable. That said, the main reason it failed was because it was so thin (the newer cable is thicker) and because it was often on the wrong side and got twisted (no longer an issue). So yeah, I really like the new method of powering the computer.

Still hate the giant trackpad, though, oh boy do I loathe it. Otherwise it's a good laptop :)
 
Magsafe was great, indeed I've already stepped on the USB type c cable when it was plugged in under the table during a meeting (putting presumably a lot of strain on the port). There's just no reality where I don't entirely ruin one of those connectors over the next few years, hopefully they aren't a big deal to replace
 
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CaptRB said:
Magsafe was just one more port we no longer need.
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You are right, now i need to buy Breaksafe or other similar product as soon as possible... and whenever i will see issues in charging, i need some kind of telepathy abilities to see whether it is because the charger or cord is broken or is my macbook fooling me (no led)...
 
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Griffin makes this replacement.
GriffinBreakSafe.jpg
 
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Can't have MagSafe if we want USB-C charging anyway. It would require a PSU separate from the USB bus and that could not fit in the case.

It could return in the future but only if the USB spec introduces magnetically attaching cables that won't give electric shocks.
 
magsafe was the single worst thing about apple products

the nightmare is finally over

they managed to design a charging cord that actually stays in
 
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I've been using a 2016 13 esc for the past month and love it dearly... the only knock I have against it is the loss of MagSafe. As someone who uses battery like 90%+ of the same, the speed of snapping the charger on/off was awesome. The safety issue was great... my new machine has nearly taken a good tumble once already. My prior Mac laptops dating back to an early 2008 MBP probably would have launched into the air a dozen times if it weren't for MagSafe.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer having a non-proprietary connector and welcome the idea of being able to use any well specced adaptor/battery to charge it. But something like that griffin replacement is cheesy. I want it to sit nearly flush with the device.
 
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You realise you can have both? You can charge using USB-C or using a magsafe, USB-C power is not magically different than magsafe power. They are not exclusive.
 
CaptRB said:
1) Magsafe was great if you lived in a place where it was somehow impossible to charge your Mac without stringing the power cord across a doorway, escalator or gangway. I've got kids and such and I just don't have this issue with keeping pathways clear!

2) Magsafe didn't always charge! Let's cut the BS because I've had 7 MacBooks and Magsafe didn't always lock in correctly and sometimes I'd not pay attention and end up with a dead Mac! USB-C works perfectly, always connects.

3) Magsafe was proprietary, which meant if anything happened to my charger, I was doomed. Happened to me twice. But with USB-C I can charge off a variety of power bricks with ANY cheap USB-C cable.

4) I like that it would glow orange or green. This doesn't effect anything though.

5) I hated that about HALF the time, the MagSafe was on the wrong side! With USB-C I can always have it on the right side!
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1. In my travels, I've been at hotels, resorts and conferences where you cannot help the cord being on the floor and being a trip hazard. I was at some places September and October where I was working and someone tripped over the cord because there was no dedicated desk. At home, I've seen my MPB being used on the couch and charging - another trip hazard.

2. I never had an issue, and my Mac is going on 4+ years

3. Yes, and so are other ports by apple, i.e., lightening.

4. Visual feedback is always helpful, as it communicates whether the battery is charging or not.

5. I never had an issue.


CaptRB said:
Magsafe was just one more port we no longer need
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Yes, USB-C made is superfluous but don't marginalize the utility and usefulness of the port. It saved my laptop a number of times.

It may not be something that you found useful, but that doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you. I for one have been very vocal over the loss of magsafe.
 
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maflynn said:
1. In my travels, I've been at hotels, resorts and conferences where you cannot help the cord being on the floor and being a trip hazard. I was at some places September and October where I was working and someone tripped over the cord because there was no dedicated desk. At home, I've seen my MPB being used on the couch and charging - another trip hazard.

2. I never had an issue, and my Mac is going on 4+ years

3. Yes, and so are other ports by apple, i.e., lightening.

4. Visual feedback is always helpful, as it communicates whether the battery is charging or not.

5. I never had an issue.



Yes, USB-C made is superfluous but don't marginalize the utility and usefulness of the port. It saved my laptop a number of times.

It may not be something that you found useful, but that doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you. I for one have been very vocal over the loss of magsafe.
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This would be more meaningful except that you can STILL have MagSafe with a little adapter. So if you're in a situation where you don't have charge and can't safely run a cord...just add the adapter. Bingo.

But with slim powerbanks coming that will give additional 10-15 hours of battery, why would you even need a cord?


R.
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Rafterman said:
Don't try and justify a lesser feature. It just sounds foolish.
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An extra USBC port is more versatile and useful than the MagSafe connection, which you can still add for situations where you need it.
Like another poster, I was annoyed more than once being forced to buy 79 dollar adapters (once when I forgot it and another when. the silly thin cable wore at the end.) USB-C is more reliable and better for the end user.


R.
 
CaptRB said:
An extra USBC port is more versatile and useful than the MagSafe connection, which you can still add for situations where you need it.
Like another poster, I was annoyed more than once being forced to buy 79 dollar adapters (once when I forgot it and another when. the silly thin cable wore at the end.) USB-C is more reliable and better for the end user.


R.
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Or include both. A laptop doesn't have to be so thin that it reduces functionality - and yet still be significantly more expensive.
 
CaptRB said:
This would be more meaningful except that you can STILL have MagSafe with a little adapter. So if you're in a situation where you don't have charge and can't safely run a cord...just add the adapter. Bingo.
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I agree there are work arounds, I was going to mention that in my post but it didn't that fit in. I was providing a rebuttal to your thesis that magsafe is not needed or useful for most users
 
Rafterman said:
Or include both. A laptop doesn't have to be so thin that it reduces functionality - and yet still be significantly more expensive.
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It's not significantly more expensive if you examine the upgrades and feature-set. My 13" tMBP costs just 200 bucks more than a new MacBook with 8GB ram and larger SSD. 200 dollars buys a MUCH better laptop...MUCH better!


R
 
CaptRB said:
It's not significantly more expensive if you examine the upgrades and feature-set. My 13" tMBP costs just 200 bucks more than a new MacBook with 8GB ram and larger SSD. 200 dollars buys a MUCH better laptop...MUCH better!


R
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I bought the late 2013 15" maxed out version, Core i7, 16GB RAM, 2GB Nvidia card and 1TB storage - $3300. The similar config (slightly faster processor, AMD video, TBar) is about $3800. Not only is it $500 more (a slightly faster processor and TBar is worth $500 more?), but that's even taking onto a account that after 3 years, parts should be getting cheaper. That's one of the reasons why better iPhones cost the same every year. But we aren't talking a slight increase for mainly the TBar, we are talking a 15 percent increase.

I maxed out on the 15 inch this year, mainly because the 2TB option was a convenience for me, and that cost was $4300. But except for the extra TB of storage, I can't say the new Macbook will be truly worth $1000 more. However, we need to do what we need to do, but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking less is more.
 
Rafterman said:
I bought the late 2013 15" maxed out version, Core i7, 16GB RAM, 2GB Nvidia card and 1TB storage - $3300. The similar config (slightly faster processor, AMD video, TBar) is about $3800. Not only is it $500 more (a slightly faster processor and TBar is worth $500 more?), but that's even taking onto a account that after 3 years, parts should be getting cheaper. That's one of the reasons why better iPhones cost the same every year. But we aren't talking a slight increase for mainly the TBar, we are talking a 15 percent increase.

I maxed out on the 15 inch this year, mainly because the 2TB option was a convenience for me, and that cost was $4300. But except for the extra TB of storage, I can't say the new Macbook will be truly worth $1000 more. However, we need to do what we need to do, but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking less is more.
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I'm not sure if the touchbar and slightly faster machine is worth 500 more (some would easily pay that for the faster speed alone), but you're also getting a much better engineered keyboard, superior brighter screen, superior sound quality, larger trackpad...etc.

That's a LOT of stuff for 500 bucks, especially from Apple. It costs a LOT of money to engineer new features like this and price will come down, but you bought 1st generation of a highly revised laptop where so much is new.

Thus I see the pricing as conservative on the part of Apple, or at least fair.



R.
 
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