Making Lion Act More Like Snow Leopard

[jcheyne]

Zooming desktop

Do Anyone knows how to zoom the desktop on Lion? In SL was Ctrl + scroll

Not sure why it isn't working for you. It still works for me. On the trackpad, it's a 2-finger gesture (while holding Ctrl). With the trackball, same thing: scrolling while holding the Ctrl key.

Incidentally, in apps that accept the pinch gestures (such as Safari), zooming with the pinch gesture is superior to the scroll method because the pinching actually scales content, whereas scrolling only magnifies it. (The difference is resolution.)

Update: Mysteriously, after testing this and posting this response, the scroll/zoom stopped working for me, too. A simple reboot brought it back. Could be a bug.

 

[ChrisH3677]

What exactly was the critical thinking or intellectual honesty behind upgrading in the first place? It was there, it was shiny and I had to have it? It's a self-created problem.

Uhmm, there was like 250 new features, plus a raft of under-the-hood improvements... Why would anyone with any semblance of "critical thinking or intellectual honesty" not want to upgrade???

Just because there's a few features we don't like doesn't mean we shouldn't upgrade; nor does it mean we're not entitled to complain.

One way products are improved is people requesting new (or old) features. Sometimes those requests expressed as complaints.

Apple has demonstrated on many occasions a willingness to listen to people's complaints. (Albeit, at other times been exceedingly stubborn - the multi-button mouse only took 20 years; resize windows from any edge has taken 10 years)

Judging by the criticism of folks with a couple of gripes, it seems some people here have 100% liked everything about every product or service they've ever bought.

 

[talmy]

Apple has demonstrated on many occasions a willingness to listen to people's complaints. (Albeit, at other times been exceedingly stubborn - the multi-button mouse only took 20 years; resize windows from any edge has taken 10 years)

Technically the "multi-button mouse" never arrived! The mouse itself is the button and there are sensors to detect which side is being pressed. Is this being clever or just being stubborn?

 

[ChrisH3677]

Technically the "multi-button mouse" never arrived! The mouse itself is the button and there are sensors to detect which side is being pressed. Is this being clever or just being stubborn?

LOL! You're right. They still were stubborn about it, refusing to make it with physical buttons so therefore it's like they never did concede and make a two-button mouse.

 

[ArcaneDevice]

So, dear Mac users, if you are true user remember - all new functions is always look strange (because they new), but after some time, you will accustomed and THIS new functions became a great canyon between your Mac and others pfsht.

So I guess Apple should go back and remove the Apple menu completely and put a permanent non-functioning Apple symbol in the middle of the menu bar again?

 

[Cole Slaw]

Anyone figure out how to get Mail to have the horizontal bars--where you have the Subject, sender, date ABOVE the message displayed? I hate how it is only used as a sidebar now.

Open Mail preferences, click on "Viewing", then click the box "Use classic layout".

 

[toogoodius]

Anyone figure out how to get Mail to have the horizontal bars--where you have the Subject, sender, date ABOVE the message displayed? I hate how it is only used as a sidebar now.

Over to the right, above the message, it says 'details' in blue. click on that abd sender etc drop down

 

[toogoodius]

LOL! You're right. They still were stubborn about it, refusing to make it with physical buttons so therefore it's like they never did concede and make a two-button mouse.

There are also one or two very useful things only possible by using both mouse buttons at once. Do apple not realise this?

 

[toogoodius]

I've already changed BOTH of those things back. What are you talking about?

Re changing back to the old style spaces, apparently possible according to the above,

please

PLEASE

somebody explain how

 

[*LTD*]

Ridiculous.

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

Just install SL.

Then we wouldn't need nonsensical threads like this.

 

[OllyW]

Ridiculous.

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

Just install SL.

Then we wouldn't need nonsensical threads like this.

So I shouldn't use Lion if I don't want my mouse wheel to scroll backwards?

 

[*LTD*]

So I shouldn't use Lion if I don't want my mouse wheel to scroll backwards?

That's an adjustable feature in System Preferences.

We have folks here wanting to do away with Mission Control, go back to the previous Spaces and Exposé, etc.

 

[roadbloc]

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

So you can run Lion apps. We all know how poor Apple's support is for their older products.

 

[paulsalter]

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

How will I use the upcoming iCloud features in Snow Leopard ?

 

[ChrisH3677]

That's an adjustable feature in System Preferences.

We have folks here wanting to do away with Mission Control, go back to the previous Spaces and Exposé, etc.

Yup! I've moved MC from the Dock, turned off all its options. It's now just like a tidier Exposé.

And you know what? My world didn't end. Lion didn't come crashing down in a big heap of UI-unusability.

Mission Control is hardly a core UI feature (as you indicated in your previous post). It's very easy to live without. And if we still had Spaces and Exposé we wouldn't be any worse off.

Besides a unified point-of-access, what real advantages are there of Mission Control over Exposé and Spaces? For most people who used Spaces in their workflow, the advantage was definitely in the Snow Leopard way. (But that doesn't mean they should go back to SL just because of one feature out of 250)

I've also removed LaunchPad from the Dock. What a waste of space it is! As application launchers go, it has got to be one of the crappiest ever.

 

[Kebabselector]

I've also removed LaunchPad from the Dock. What a waste of space it is! As application launchers go, it has got to be one of the crappiest ever.

+1

App launcher is a great idea for a iPhone/iPad but on a desktop it makes less sense, the old Applications folder worked faster for me.

I've removed the Mission control app as I can just use a gesture instead* Though to be honest Mission control is a replacement for expose. I rarely moved apps inbetween spaces so the combination of expose/spaces might work for me. At least the keyboard (Ctrl-left/right Arrow) still work in Spaces.



*Kept it on my old Macbook as I can't do gestures.

 

[chaosbunny]

Ridiculous.

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

Just install SL.

Then we wouldn't need nonsensical threads like this.

Because no one, not even your beloved fruit company, can make something that's 100% perfect for everyone. Because millions of people have millions of different needs. It's simply not possible. That's why there are system preferences - where Apple could easily do with a little more options.

 

[toogoodius]

Ridiculous.

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

Just install SL.

Then we wouldn't need nonsensical threads like this.

Can somebody please just answer the question without asking sm*rt*rse questions.

The reason I don't go back to Snow leopard is because it contained a bug (yes, God's own apple machines can have bugs too) that made mail unusable.

This is not a nonsense thread so why waste time answering it like that

 

[cargath]

App launcher is a great idea for a iPhone/iPad but on a desktop it makes less sense, the old Applications folder worked faster for me.

Does no one here have Apps in multiple folders? I normally leave my /Applications folder alone (with the exception of StuffIt Expander and Apple Apps) and install everything into ~/Applications. Of course i can use Launchers like Alfred, but Launchpad gives me an overview of everything i have installed. It really helps keeping track of Apps in multiple folders. And it's really fun scrolling through it

 

[iMarc845]

Can somebody please just answer the question without asking sm*rt*rse questions.

The reason I don't go back to Snow leopard is because it contained a bug (yes, God's own apple machines can have bugs too) that made mail unusable.

This is not a nonsense thread so why waste time answering it like that

+1 to that!

If this topic isn't to your liking, pass it by. There's really no need to insult people who have done you no injury.

Now back to the original question... Poster tackyglue stated that he'd changed Lion to use the old style Spaces and for the Finder to use colored icons in the Sidebar. Presuming that's accurate, would someone please be kind enough to tell us how to do this?

I've also noted another issue with my sidebar: it does not display the SHARED Menu and my Bon Jour available servers UNLESS I first connect to one. Yes, I do have those options set in the Sidebar tab of Finder Prefs.

Also, if I use Connect to Server... [Cmd-K] from the Go menu, I cannot connect using the [computerName.local] It will ONLY connect if I use the LAN IP address.

Has anyone else noticed these issues? If so, how have you fixed them? I'm doing the same things that worked fine in SL; but they're failing in Lion.

 

[talmy]

I've also noted another issue with my sidebar: it does not display the SHARED Menu and my Bon Jour available servers UNLESS I first connect to one. Yes, I do have those options set in the Sidebar tab of Finder Prefs.

Also, if I use Connect to Server... [Cmd-K] from the Go menu, I cannot connect using the [computerName.local] It will ONLY connect if I use the LAN IP address.

Not being to connect to computerName.local and not seeing a Bonjour available server are consistent since the .local domain is used by Bonjour. You won't see the shared menu if there is nothing to share (i.e. the Bonjour server isn't seen).

I've got an environment with 4 Lion systems and 3 Snow Leopard systems (one being Snow Leopard Server) and am not seeing this issue. If you have an external you can boot Snow Leopard from it would be interesting to see if it sees the server, then at least you would know if Lion was to blame.

 

[The Phazer]

Ridiculous.

If you want to change over core parts of the UI to function like Snow Leopard, then what was the point of your purchasing Lion??

Just install SL.

Then we wouldn't need nonsensical threads like this.

Except you can't install SL on the new Airs. Apple block it. And depressingly, that means within about a year you won't be able to do it on any machine that Apple sells.

Not to mention the amount of iPhone features that seem quite likely to require Lion going forward.

I have no intention of upgrading to Lion if I can possibly help it. But that doesn't mean that I'm stupid and don't recognise that I'm not going to be forced into it eventually or lose features on other devices.

Phazer

 

[John.B]

Can somebody please just answer the question without asking sm*rt*rse questions.

The reason I don't go back to Snow leopard is because it contained a bug (yes, God's own apple machines can have bugs too) that made mail unusable.

This is not a nonsense thread so why waste time answering it like that

I answered it back in post #33:

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but there are seriously cool security enhancements in Lion as well as that whole iCloud thing coming in iOS 5 in September, not to mention document revisions and a very cool new implementation of FileVault. Just to name a few.

I'll never understand people who insist on dictating how others should use their computers...

 

[scottsjack]

I got so tired of trying to remove or disable the juvenile iPad-looking trash from Lion that I swiped a single finger vertical gesture to Cupertino and reverted to SL. I just couldn’t stand the ugliness. SL Mail, Calendar and Spaces are so nice to have back again.

 

[Cole Slaw]

I wish Lion still had "Save As" in Textedit and Preview.
Why would they take that out?