Not only that but removing code can screw upgrades up for software that is still being developed. Xslimmer has a blacklist for files that should not be lipoed, dunno about Monolingual. I would leave well alone.
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Not only that but removing code can screw upgrades up for software that is still being developed. Xslimmer has a blacklist for files that should not be lipoed, dunno about Monolingual. I would leave well alone.
I know OS X handles fragmentation differently but I would think stripping out thousands of code and language files would leave the hard drive 'perforated' with gaps, that new data would then be written to - hence making the drive have to work even harder?
You guys really know how to welcome the newcomer!
I'm the one who likes to bicker and speak of the PPC glory days.
I'm the one who likes to bicker and speak of the PPC glory days.
To really squeeze out the last drop of disk space without the (possible) fragmentation - run Monolingual, delete all unnecessary files then clone the drive and copy it back - at that point all the data will be written sequentially without gaps. In fact doing this at any point gives a marginal disk speed increase.
I agree, except with respect to Monolingual and even then there are some caveats.
Monolingual "slims" things down by stripping out all the unused languages that install with an app. It also removes unused languages from the system, but other than that nothing else is touched.
XSlimmer actually removes code.
The problem I have with Monolingual is that it's not always intelligent. It stripped out the languages of QuarkXPress 8 once for me and QXP 8 then refused to start. Apparently some apps have dependencies, so be careful on what apps you use it on.
Fortunately, I had backed up the apps I intended to use Monolingual on before hand so I was able to simple replace QuarkXPress.
It's all about attitude.
OP delivered this thread as if he were our deliverer, imparting knowledge to us that only he knew but was now giving to us ignorant PowerPC users who can barely figure out how to turn our Macs on.
I've been using Macs in one form or another since 1986, PCs since 1990 and computers since 1980 when I was 10.
This is a PowerPC forum. This basic information that the OP presented (and some of the problems inherent in it) should not be new to us.
Max out the ram to make your Mac faster? Really? OP states that PowerBook G4s can take 2GB, but if OP really knew what he was talking about OP would know that the TiBooks which are POWERBOOK G4s can only take 1GB ram max. OP makes zero distinction between the TiBooks and the Albooks.
I don't object to new people knowing things I don't. That's cool, because I learn something.
I object to new people presenting things I know already as new information I should be grateful to them for giving me.
Don't you think you're over reacting?
Why is everyone being so elitist about this forum? It is open to the public - that public could be any age, background, culture, race, mental and physical disposition.
Yes, this could be an idiot wasting keystrokes - it could also be someone with learning difficulties writing their first post on any forum ever...
I'm sure lot's of people (me included) post without scouring the forum first to check if it's not been said before.
You know what? I probably am. Thanks for calling me on it.
OP, my apologies for MY arrogant attitude.
No, HFS+ defragments itself in whats called Hot File Adaptive Clustering (HFC), So fragmentation is not an issue on a Mac.
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If you don't have lots of free space on your hard drive, then it can cause some issues with swap space, and can cause OS X to have some trouble managing your files, on the disk, and ones that are open.
Usually this should only be noticeable on smaller HDD's(less than 40GB).
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I'd read that many moons ago...but then read test data from various defrag utilities which showed an improvement on disk performance after use.
That's why I opt for the clone method to make absolutely sure.
This is for disks though - SSDs are another story but I thought TRIM wasn't supported under Tiger/Leopard? I've only owned one SSD, an OCZ and that came with proprietary flash memory management built in.
well, idk about anyone else, but my first thread was the top 10 most replied to thread in this sub-forum (Getting FREE Apple Products! XD, originally Getting a FREE PowerMac G5 XD). However, it has recently been downsized by other posts, like the Minecraft Server thread.
I've only seen problems with fragmentation on my 2006 MBP which was running P2P software at the time. Drive slowed to a crawl as the 60Gb partition filled up. I wasn't aware of the clone method in those days, fixed it with iDefrag which ran from a bootable CD. That said I've never seen fragmentation problems since on any of my other Macs with spinning rust.
I'll concede the minor point on small HDDs, but unless you're trying to run Leopard from a small partition on an unsupported machine it's unlikely to ever be a real world issue.
Well I guess, these days disk space is a moot point as most everybody has upgraded the HDDs, as now IDE drives are cheap.
Not only are IDE drives cheap, but you can get IDE SSDs (or SATA SSDs with an IDE adapter) for reasonable prices.
I did a decent amount of testing of removing opposite-architecture code during the Leopard years. While it did save some space, and saving space does provide a slight increase in speed, it wasn't a huge space saving, nor was the speed boost at all noticeable. (I didn't run in to any compatibility problems, at least.)
Unused IDE hard drives are rare and therefore expensive. Secondhand ones are plentiful, but who knows how many hours usage are on them?
That said first think I did when I got the TiBook a few months ago was to put a 60Gb 7200rpm drive in it. Yes, it was owned from new ... by me and got about 18 months usage before I removed it when I sold the laptop on.
That said first think I did when I got the TiBook a few months ago was to put a 60Gb 7200rpm drive in it. Yes, it was owned from new ... by me and got about 18 months usage before I removed it when I sold the laptop on.
There are these IDE to SD Card adaptors you can get, and put in an SD Card, SD Cards are cheap, although running OS X off of them is likely to kill them in about 5 minutes ):
Very much so. Work experimented with bootable Linux flash drives so the employees could securely work from home using their own PC. Invariably killed a cheap flash drive within a couple of weeks, and even Kingston branded ones in a few months of sporadic use.
I did tell them at the time it wasn't a great idea...
I did tell them at the time it wasn't a great idea...
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I had a Linux flash drive that I used on my old PC when Window$ had issues, it lasted over a year, and it did not die due to read/writes, it died because my laptop fell on the floor, smashing the flash drive. I have made another one now(and it hopefully won't get smashed).
I suppose I forgot to mention my frequent use of sarcasm.
Yes, clearly most of the information he posted was a little... obvious and redundant. But how often do we have redundancy around here around here around here around here?
1. I agree, it is about attitude
2. I did not post the thread as if I were anyone's "deliverer", or to impart knowledge that only I knew, and I did NOT say that anyone was ignorant.
3. I think it is very cool that you have been using computers since 1980, and macs since 1986.
4. I did not say that the information was new to anyone, it is just a compilation of information.
5. I did state that PowerBook G4's can take 2GB of ram, however I UPDATED the OP post to include the TiBooks.
6. I did not present anything as "new" information, I just presented it as a compilation of existing information, and do not care about anyone being grateful for it.
Once again, my apologies.
The only person in the wrong here is me with my snippy attitude at the time. I'd love to blame it on something else, but no, that was all my fault.
I'm sorry.
No worries. We all have those moments.
I apologize if my sarcasm offended you as well! I respect your honesty and willingness to apologize. Not many people can/will do that.
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