Making your iPad worthless to a thief.

Discussion in 'iPad' started by rkahl, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. rkahl macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #1
    Apple please add dfu restore mode disabled in iOS -Settings- Restrictions-
    DFU Restore - ON/OFF

    This would also help add a little more time to the clock if you are tracking them with Find My iPhone.
     
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

    GoCubsGo

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    #2
    Write to Apple. It won't go anywhere from here.
     
  3. boy-better-know macrumors 65816

    boy-better-know

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Location:
    England
    #3
    Or just get it engraved, that way you can guarantee no one else will want to own it, steal it, or buy it off you when you want to sell it. :D
     
  4. rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #4
    That wouldn't stop a thief from using it.
     
  5. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    #5
    wow

    ----------

    The problem here is, I don't have a clue what this means, and i'm a bit of a geek.

    Apple want to keep things simple and intuitive, and this doesn't appear to be either.
     
  6. rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #6
    It's kind of having your PC's bios password protected. If someone steals your iOS device the thief doesn't even have to turn your device on. He/she only needs to connect to the computer and do a dfu restore. Apple has made nice restrictions in the settings of iOS and requiring you to use a password to utilize it. If you disable dfu mode on your device thief will not be able to restore... While the thief thinks he is doing a restore, the ipad is still sending off gps coordinates where you are buying more time for you and the cops to get there.
    By doing this your iPad can most likely always be found in the end.
     
  7. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    #7
    Ah right, this does sound pretty useful actually!
     
  8. boy-better-know macrumors 65816

    boy-better-know

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Location:
    England
    #8
    Thanks, Sherlock!
     
  9. Capt T macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2010
    #9
    Then how does the honest person who can't remember their password or what have you, reset their iPad?
     
  10. rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #11
    You're screwed! The same for your Bios tho on a pc.
     
  11. blueroom macrumors 603

    blueroom

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    #12
    Cars aren't even theft proof and they've been around for more than a century and cost a whole lot more than an iPad.

    The only protection you've got is to keep an eye on it.
     
  12. rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #13
    That is a Great idea. Just wow!
     
  13. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2008
    #14
    The whole point of a DFU mode is to have a way to get in to reset the iPad in case of a catastrophic software failure. By it's very nature, you can't have a software switch to override DFU. I suppose it's possible to build iPads without a DFU mode to begin with, but then there'd be no way to recover from OS corruption, and a lot more iPads would have to be switched out when the OS freezes, or a restore/update goes wrong.
     
  14. Redjericho macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2011
    #15
    Not enough of a geek apparently!

    This feature, though it would prevent thievery, pretty much ends apple's method of being able to ensure your device will always work with anything less than a hardware failure.

    So if you turned it off and managed to contract a virus from some iOS exploit or an app that got passed apple's screening, you're screwed.

    Not to mention if you are jailbroken it would just be a matter of time until you need DFU mode.
     
  15. rkahl, Apr 22, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2012

    rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #16
    What if you could do dfu restore, but password protected? If a police report has been filed then the Genius Bar could restore the device to the actual owner. I'm positive I'm the only one who has ever thought of this. :D
     
  16. VenusianSky macrumors 65816

    VenusianSky

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    #17
    Maybe if you get something like this engraved:

    "If [owner's full name here] or an acquaintance of [full name] does not have this iPad in possession, it may be in the hands of a really bad person that has broken the law and that person should really think about they have done. Don't be that other person" :D
     
  17. LostSoul80 macrumors 68020

    LostSoul80

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2009
    #18
    Removing the DFU doesn't make any sense.
    First, it's not there to let thieves use your iPad. It's a feature that allows you to restore your device if needed, which means it has to run without anything non standard on the device (read: no custom data, so no passwords for example).
    Then, don't forget that as long as you can put your hands on it, there will always be a way to access it, doesn't matter the efforts even Apple can put into this.
     
  18. rkahl thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    #19
    Thanks for putting it politely. I'm learning a foreign language here.
     
  19. dukebound85 macrumors P6

    dukebound85

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Location:
    5045 feet above sea level
    #20
    Chances of needing a reset are probably higher than having it stolen
     
  20. FlatlinerG macrumors 6502a

    FlatlinerG

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    #21
    Best way to protect your investments, get insurance. Pretty typical home owners/car insurance covers stolen items. Sure this won't stop thieves, but then again not much really does. Get a loud dog and good insurance.
     
  21. taedouni macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2011
    Location:
    California
    #22
    I think that would just start a lot of problems for Apple. Maybe if you need a password to do a DFU restore (and apple could have a special dock that can bypass any password).

    I think that if Apple used some of the features from Cylay, that should be sufficient.
     
  22. brand macrumors 601

    brand

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2006
    Location:
    127.0.0.1
    #23
    Except that any competent computer technician or computer savvy person should be able to bypass a BIOS password.
     
  23. JohnDoe98 macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    #24
    Even better than this, you could write the carriers and ask them to allow free gps/cell data temporarily for devices that are reported as stolen (provided that you can accomplish this next step.) You now write Apple and have them program into the OS that if any device is reported as stolen, the device automatically tracks locations and submits it to the police, behind the scenes without the user knowing.

    If this was done in an invisible fashion, then the thief using the device wouldn't know anyone is tracking them (so you wouldn't want to make it so that they can't use the device, just that they can't track private info). The police could roll up and bust them. It would be cool if such an automated system was built-into every device and integrated with the police network. This would seriously reduce electronic thievery. You could have a dedicated police officer just roll up on one thief after another.

    ----------

    If it's done right, then it would take a hacker to do it. If you could isolate theft to hackers, great. There aren't many car thieves due to the heavy sentences and difficulty of the job, but stealing an iPad, iPhone or computer is incredibly easy for any moron/drug addict to do. I don't see the harm is eliminating the incentive for those people to steal by instituting a system that makes it very hard to get away with the theft.
     
  24. brand macrumors 601

    brand

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2006
    Location:
    127.0.0.1
    #25
    The cell carriers have cell tower triangulation but I am not sure if they have access the the GPS data on the device. I can understand them being able to triangulate the devices position because of the information that they have but I would not want them to have access to my specific GPS data.
     

Share This Page