vniow said:
I've joked about it many a time, but I really hope it never happens to me...
Sex with three women is one thing, rape by three women in SA at gunpoint is something entirely different.
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I've joked about it many a time, but I really hope it never happens to me...
Sex with three women is one thing, rape by three women in SA at gunpoint is something entirely different.
I for one wouldn't be able to get it up, or keep it up for three sessions, with a gun to my head.
Consider the alternative title
"Woman held at gunpoint while three men force her to have sex."
It's rape. It's assault with a deadly weapon. How is it different?
Would it be made OK if the men above were exceptionally good looking?
Would you feel right joking about it?
As long as we continue to have the dual standard that forced sex is OK for a guy if it is - or should have been in someone elses judgement - 'enjoyable' or with a "hottie" we are not going to, as a society, evolve beyond the cave and the big stick.
"Woman held at gunpoint while three men force her to have sex."
It's rape. It's assault with a deadly weapon. How is it different?
Would it be made OK if the men above were exceptionally good looking?
Would you feel right joking about it?
As long as we continue to have the dual standard that forced sex is OK for a guy if it is - or should have been in someone elses judgement - 'enjoyable' or with a "hottie" we are not going to, as a society, evolve beyond the cave and the big stick.
CanadaRAM said:Consider the alternative title
"Woman held at gunpoint while three men force her to have sex."
It's rape. It's assault with a deadly weapon. How is it different?
Would it be made OK if the men above were exceptionally good looking?
Would you feel right joking about it?
As long as we continue to have the dual standard that forced sex is OK for a guy if it is - or should have been in someone elses judgement - 'enjoyable' or with a "hottie" we are not going to, as a society, evolve beyond the cave and the big stick.
oh i agree with you, society places weird values on us thats for sure though. and they often make no sense, and very few people try to break past those imposing ideas. rape is rape indeed.
CanadaRAM said:Consider the alternative title
"Woman held at gunpoint while three men force her to have sex."
It's rape. It's assault with a deadly weapon. How is it different?
Would it be made OK if the men above were exceptionally good looking?
Would you feel right joking about it?
As long as we continue to have the dual standard that forced sex is OK for a guy if it is - or should have been in someone elses judgement - 'enjoyable' or with a "hottie" we are not going to, as a society, evolve beyond the cave and the big stick.
CanadaRAM, thats just the way male human-beings are. Males think about having sex with many women, because it is in our DNA for us to spread our genes.
I agree that if the man was seriously terrified, the charges should be the same as if the roles were reversed.
No IFs about it.MacAztec said:
The 'in our genes' excuse (for behaviour, not for thoughts) is what keeps us cavepeople and not civilized.
What has me upset is that if we joke about it here -- 'it's ok 'cause the guy musta enjoyed it' -- then that attitude HAS to migrate over (consciously or subconsciously) to 'it's OK cause SHE must have enjoyed it'
And that's wrong wrong wrong, in either direction.
We - and i mean us, right here, present company included - we disrespect humanity and civilized society by joking and making light of this.
CanadaRAM said:
Who seriously thinks that though? I bet no one in this thread does.
Forced sex is WRONG whether it be male or female... I think everybody in this thread would acknowledge that... whatever they've said in jest.
A couple of comments are interesting though, paricularly with regards to disbelief and suspicion as to whether this actually happened. I know that domestic and sexual violence against males isn't taken anywhere near as seriously in the UK as it is for female victims.
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BAH. Some fellas have all the luck.
Really though, I would have ended up shot. Like Johnny Rico said above, the pressure would be overwhelming.
Really though, I would have ended up shot. Like Johnny Rico said above, the pressure would be overwhelming.
Couldn't the women just ask nicely? Surely three ladies looking for a good time need only to go to the local bar and scope out some single-looking guy...
Seriously, I'm not sure we're getting the whole story here. Yes, rape is rape any way you slice it, and anyone being held at gunpoint will be terrified, but I find it hard to believe that THREE women would do that to the one guy. There's gotta be something more going on here. Rape is an attempt at controlling someone; a power issue, if you will. It's not really about sex. Sex is the means, not the end. These women wanted something from him other than his groove. Very weird indeed.
Seriously, I'm not sure we're getting the whole story here. Yes, rape is rape any way you slice it, and anyone being held at gunpoint will be terrified, but I find it hard to believe that THREE women would do that to the one guy. There's gotta be something more going on here. Rape is an attempt at controlling someone; a power issue, if you will. It's not really about sex. Sex is the means, not the end. These women wanted something from him other than his groove. Very weird indeed.
CanadaRAM - Thing is, guys and girls think differently, no matter how you think they should think (weird sentence).
If you put a guy in a room with 10 gorgeous women, I'm sure he would want to screw every one of them.
If you put a girl in a room with 10 handsome men, I don't think she would want to screw every one of them.
If you put a guy in a room with 10 gorgeous women, I'm sure he would want to screw every one of them.
If you put a girl in a room with 10 handsome men, I don't think she would want to screw every one of them.
Wow, this is the most blatantly ignorant thing I've read all day.MacAztec said:
Congratulations.
Fair? as in northern european,bit dodgy don't you think.Please don't assume what passes for male sexuality in the locker room is related to reality necessarily.Lacero said:
How about mentioning it's only human nature,that will really complete the picture? <sarcasm for those not used to it>
ok, for starters, how exactly can a man be forced to have sex with a woman? there are certain anatomical functions that just wouldnt function given the right circumstances (like being scared out of your mind b/c you have a gun held at your head). the only time that would work is the SG scenario where the guy LIKES to be forced into such acts in which case its his choice and not forced. there are certain acts that could be forced onto a guy against his will, but those usually invovle the man, um, 'receiving' and um, last time i checked a woman cant be on the giving end of such a situation. unless we get into stuff that really shouldnt be mentioned in this forum (yeah, go visit the SG site for all the real adult content, then you might understand where this could go) but come on, i think its some story this guy is telling to get out of something. or well, comming from such a legitimate sorce, might just all be fake!
vniow said:
Damn right, I cannot believe the attitude of a lot of people in this thread! I'm a guy, I like sex, but being held at gunpoint by strangers and used like that? Absolutely not sexy; a horrible violation.
Do some guys honestly think that all sex is good, in every circumstance??
Arousal is a physiological response it doesn't mean a person wants it to happen,this is also a problem in female rape victims as it may lead to feelings of intense guilt.wPod said:
wPod said:
you do have a point, and i have heard the argument before.... but arousal can come at weird times for guys, but yes if he was that scared of losing his life, then he wouldn't have been able to get it up so to speak. However, that doesn't mean that he wanted to have sex with these women. it does not mean that he wanted the more than unlikely unsafe sex that they had. just because a man is turned on does not mean that he wants to have sex with whomever. any sexual act can be assault so long as it is not consented by both parties. SG does show how some would like this though, great stuff....
iGav said:but with the exception of... "One woman produced a firearm and held the man at gunpoint," I can't believe the guy's complaining about it...
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I had a fantasy like that once....
EDIT TO ADD: I'm not saying that forced sex is good, no matter what gender is doing it to whom. However, many guys are a bit less protective about sex than women are, so forcing a guy to have sex isn't as high on the "bad things to happen to me" list as it is for a girl.
And no, I'd be limp after the first girl. I feel sorry for the girl who had sloppy 3rds.
MacAztec said:
I'm not arguing 'want' and 'think'. I'm arguing behaviour.
A primary measure of being grown-up is that one doesn't act on all of their wants and thoughts.
And the underlying approval of the situation and the guy
'^#$@ing A - he got the chance and did the job - 3 times yet - and with the gun
- right on, dude'Is disgusting.
