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Man Robbed After Buying 300 iPhones From Apple Fifth Avenue

HiVolt said:
Pretty much in the way NYC is ran now. They release criminals for robbery, shoplifting, and they go right back to robbing.
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The State stats board just released their analysis of the city’s change in bail policy, there has been no linked rise in crime and no linked decline in people making their court dates (you know, the actual purpose of bail, not functionally locking up people who havent been convicted of a crime for being poor).
 
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Bawstun said:
I don’t think it is very little. I reside in San Diego, and in 2021 there were 26 homicides. In NYC, there were 488.
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First of all San Diego had 57 (59 including highway homicides) murders in 2021. NYC had 485.

Second of all San Diego is 1.4M people in a metro area of 3.3M, NYC is 8.8M in a metro area of 20M. The actual difference in rate is rather minimal. Even better: if you compare by daytime populations (include commuters) NYC comes out safer
 
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TheYayAreaLiving said:
Really not sure how he was able to purchase 300 iPhones just fine. Apple does not even have 300+ iPhones available in stock in any of the 4 stores in Las Vegas.

Do you guys see that red label message? You can only purchase 1-10.
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It’s the NYC flagship store. I’m sure they have phone stock sufficient to fill orders of this size.

Trying to order online is not the same as walking into the actual store and purchasing. Limits to online orders for pickup in store don’t mean there are limits to direct, in store purchases.
 
Bawstun said:
I don’t think it is very little. I reside in San Diego, and in 2021 there were 26 homicides. In NYC, there were 488.
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Your numbers are off

...there are still several large American cities where murders have increased in 2022. In San Diego, California, for example, there have been 30 murders reported from Jan. 1 to June 30, 2022, up from the 26 homicides that were reported in the city over the same period in 2021.
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sw1tcher said:
Wait. Are the people who are buying the iPhones at this guy's small business paying more than retail? Otherwise, why bother if there's no profit for this guy. Unless he's able to get a lot of marked-up accessory add-on sales with them.
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Since they are 13s, I would assume this guy has a small neighborhood electronics shop and sells them on installment plans. Probably cash. Nothing really wrong with it because he's fulfilling a need that particular market has.
 
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300 iPhones. That’s 115 pounds WITHOUT the box/packaging. Have to imagine it’s at least 150lbs all in. Jeez!
 
visualseed said:
Since they are 13s, I would assume this guy has a small neighborhood electronics shop and sells them on installment plans. Probably cash. Nothing really wrong with it because he's fulfilling a need that particular market has.
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See my previous posts, they are iPhone 13s because they still have SIM trays and are getting sold to other countries. These large purchases in-store are common in Apple Retail.
 
nStyle said:
Who’s he selling year old iPhones to for a markup?
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iPhone 13's are the most popular model for these resellers because they still have SIM trays. These types of purchases are very common in Apple Retail. They sell to other countries like Dubai who then sell them to countries that are trade sanctioned with the US for a large profit.
 
Wouldn’t that be considered scalping? Buying so many iPhones as a person to resell them instead of buying them as a business? I am sure there are platforms that offer purchases on mass with proper bills for easier business tax filings. We use „onventis“ for example.

Also, how much money could he possibly make on these?!? Is he selling them to Cuba, Brazil or something? So many questions
 
contacos said:
Wouldn’t that be considered scalping? Buying so many iPhones as a person to resell them instead of buying them as a business? I am sure there are platforms that offer purchases on mass with proper bills for easier business tax filings. We use „onventis“ for example.

Also, how much money could he possibly make on these?!? Is he selling them to Cuba, Brazil or something? So many questions
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Dubai, which then ships them to other countries that you cannot ship to within the US.
 
Poor reading comprehension folks:

He's buying to sell through his business. He's made large purchases from this location in the past according to the NYPD. Guess he got too comfortable.

As I said elsewhere: either people scoped out his 300 iPhone purchase being placed in the large bags (doesn't appear to be the Apple bags that scream come rob me) -or- someone witnessed his past large purchases. I use to work across the street from this Apple Store years ago and am I very familiar with this area. I've seen many tourists make large purchases and waltz out the store without a care in the world. Admittedly nothing this large. But Apple has at least two security guards at the front and at least one uniformed police officer hovering nearby. Doesn't say how far from the store the assault and robbery took place, but I doubt he was able to park near the entrance.

I live in Flushing, Queens (a so-called outer borough of NYC) and plenty of small shops sell to overseas shoppers. The amount of top-shelf electronics these risky-dink shops sell is mind blowing. Often paid with wads of $$$. It wouldn't surprise me these are his intended buyers given iPhone 13s still have SIM trays.
 
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contacos said:
Also, how much money could he possibly make on these?!
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"The victim regularly makes large purchases from Apple, as he resells the phones through his small business, according to police."

Seems pretty straightforward; why not assume this is true? I can imagine a host of scenarios where this makes perfect sense. Perhaps he's selling to folks who are more comfortable in a language other than English? People with less than perfect immigration status? The folks who don't leave the neighborhood much? Or hell, shipping them to Dubai.

Does it matter? He's not infringing on my rights at all and presumably not anyone else's either. And he certainly didn't deserve to get mugged, contrary to what some of the vitriol in this thread might suggest.
 
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montuori said:
"The victim regularly makes large purchases from Apple, as he resells the phones through his small business, according to police."

Seems pretty straightforward; why not assume this is true? I can imagine a host of scenarios where this makes perfect sense. Perhaps he's selling to folks who are more comfortable in a language other than English? People with less than perfect immigration status? The folks who don't leave the neighborhood much? Or hell, shipping them to Dubai.

Does it matter? He's not infringing on my rights at all and presumably not anyone else's either. And he certainly didn't deserve to get mugged, contrary to what some of the vitriol in this thread might suggest.
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I agree but what the buyer should have done was to have those phones shipped to his home or place of business. I was born and raised in NYC and it wasn’t a safe place to live back in the 70’s. From what i’ve read, crime today is just as bad as it was back in the 70’s. I was mugged several times growing up in NYC.
 
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