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Would be extremely disappointing if they already change the lug design especially after just releasing new bands in March. Can't see myself upgrading and purchasing accessories for it if the bands I just spent money on are obsolete already.
 
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According to the statistics?

Oh yes, those endless statistics that Tim Cook gives us every keynote proclaiming how many millions of Apple Watches were sold.

No. He has given us not a single sales figure. For all we know they have sold 5 million and had returns of 3 million. In fact, analysing the earnings results, they sold about 5 million in the first year. That is a bad failure by Steve Jobs's standards.

The only stats that we've been given are estimates from third parties, and they all said that the Apple Watch outsold all Android Wear watches within the first day of preorders. Also, not that many people returned one, or else we'd be hearing about it. All of the people I know personally that own an Apple Watch have said that they love it and would never return it.

Also, didn't the Apple Watch outsell the original iPhone in total units sold durning launch? I don't think it's a failure, no matter how you look at it.
 
Wow, and when are the new MBPs coming ?

Enough of these creepy watches and their bands !


THAT is how I feel about Apple these days.

The watch bands, hiring fashionistas for ridiculous amounts of money, the Beats fiasco, the Social Justice insanity, the endless fancy parties for the ultra wealthy, the top executives getting disgustingly fat.

It's debauchery of a whole new level that makes the Romans look like innocent kindergarteners compared to the snake pit we're witnessing now

CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY
 
It's not going anywhere, watch OS 3 is pretty incredible, really for this early of a beta. I hope a new one comes out soon but that the 1st gen bands still work or that there's some favorable trade up program.
I'm so excited for watchOS 3. Also, to all the people who say that Apple failed with the Apple Watch, I don't think they'd be investing more resources and making it more integrated into people's lives if it failed to live up to expectations.
 
The only stats that we've been given are estimates from third parties, and they all said that the Apple Watch outsold all Android Wear watches within the first day of preorders. Also, not that many people returned one, or else we'd be hearing about it. All of the people I know personally that own an Apple Watch have said that they love it and would never return it.

Also, didn't the Apple Watch outsell the original iPhone in total units sold durning launch? I don't think it's a failure, no matter how you look at it.

Its not a matter of units sold...much the a flagship car, say the new NSX...its not numbers, its exposure. Apple created and industry buzz, created a need for job making watch apps, created a whole industry for bands and accessories...PLUS all the media exposure it got, thus driving more people to check out other Apple products.

To say the Apple Watch is a flop is a childish assessment of product lines and supply chains and frankly marketing principals in general.

back on the couch for you...
 
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Its not a matter of units sold...much the a flagship car, say the new NSX...its not numbers, its exposure. Apple created and industry buzz, created a need for job making watch apps, created a whole industry for bands and accessories...PLUS all the media exposure it got, thus driving more people to check out other Apple products.

To say the Apple Watch is a flop is a childish assessment of product lines and supply chains and frankly marketing principals in general.

back on the couch for you...
Yeah, I didn't think it was a flop, quite the opposite. I think you may have replied to the wrong person :D

I have mine and love it, and I've even sold a few people on getting one, who like it. It has been very successful and it'll only grow in popularity from here.
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The smugness is strong with this one.
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Also if the Apple Watch is a failure, what the hell are all the Android Wear watches?

Exactly. Where are the Android Wear watches, and why is no one calling those a failure? They have been out for 2 years now and still have a very low market share, and I've seen a grand total of maybe 10 Android based watches in public, including my own, compared to the 250+ Apple Watches I've seen.
 
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The yellow sports band was saying "Sold Out" when I checked on Monday, but now it says "Currently Unavailabe", so are in flux.
 
THAT is how I feel about Apple these days.

The watch bands, hiring fashionistas for ridiculous amounts of money, the Beats fiasco, the Social Justice insanity, the endless fancy parties for the ultra wealthy, the top executives getting disgustingly fat.

It's debauchery of a whole new level that makes the Romans look like innocent kindergarteners compared to the snake pit we're witnessing now

CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY
I have to admit it's taken me awhile to adjust to everything you've listed here. But I'm 50. I am from the generation that watched Apple launch from Steve's house. I am from the generation that watched Microsoft start out and become the big unwieldy beast it is now.

Seeing a new tech category debut in part on Katy Perry's Twitter feed took a wee bit of getting used to. :confused: I have to remind myself there's a younger generation out there with money now and they see things differently. I'll have to be patient and see how this all plays out among that demographic as well as my own, and across other countries that weren't in on the original Apple experience but who have a strong influence on it now.
 
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Yeah, I didn't think it was a flop, quite the opposite. I think you may have replied to the wrong person :D

I have mine and love it, and I've even sold a few people on getting one, who like it. It has been very successful and it'll only grow in popularity from here.
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Exactly. Where are the Android Wear watches, and why is no one calling those a failure? They have been out for 2 years now and still have a very low market share, and I've seen a grand total of maybe 10 Android based watches in public, including my own, compared to the 250+ Apple Watches I've seen.


Yikes..tagged the wrong post....sorry
 
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It's happening with the phone cases as well. I just did a quick search and most of the colors that came out with the Spring edition are either out of stock for 2-3 weeks or completely unavailable.
 
How is that a failure? The iPod sold 600,000 in it's first 14 months, and the watch sold millions. Also, Steve is dead.

Sure, but the first 14 months of the iPods existence it was Mac-only, which at the time had a 1% marketshare with about a 15m installed base. Also Apple in 2001 when the iPod was announced had zero market presence or cache as it now enjoys. It's stock price (split adjusted) was around $1.50.

OTOH AW relies on the iPhone which has an approx 20% marketshare, and iPhone 5 to 6s is an installed base of around 72m units. And even as you claim millions have been sold Apple refuses to announce numbers like it does for iPhone and Mac, probably because it doesn't want to deal with its #s, fair or not, being compared to Fitbit, which is double digit millions.

Finally the iPod + iTunes created Apple's halo effect. The AW has done no such thing, so it's really silly to compare the two products. They are nothing alike for what they are doing for Apple. AW at this point is still a sleeper, not it's next big thing as the iPod was. Apple owned the portable music segment. It does not own the smart watch/activity band segment by a long shot.
 
Sure, but the first 14 months of the iPods existence it was Mac-only, which at the time had a 1% marketshare with about a 15m installed base. Also Apple in 2001 when the iPod was announced had zero market presence or cache as it now enjoys. It's stock price (split adjusted) was around $1.50.

OTOH AW relies on the iPhone which has an approx 20% marketshare, and iPhone 5 to 6s is an installed base of around 72m units. And even as you claim millions have been sold Apple refuses to announce numbers like it does for iPhone and Mac, probably because it doesn't want to deal with its #s, fair or not, being compared to Fitbit, which is double digit millions.

Finally the iPod + iTunes created Apple's halo effect. The AW has done no such thing, so it's really silly to compare the two products. They are nothing alike for what they are doing for Apple. AW at this point is still a sleeper, not it's next big thing as the iPod was. Apple owned the portable music segment. It does not own the smart watch/activity band segment by a long shot.

The Apple Watch has barely been out for ONE YEAR. Comparing it to the iPod in terms of influence is really not fair yet. I am just sick of people saying it's a failure..it's a new platform and needs time to "grow up". Fitbit may sell more devices, but I am really not so sure Apple Watch is a Fitbit competitor, just because you wear both on your wrist. I am not trying to vent at you, but the OP I quoted just spews this stuff out on most every post he makes. I enjoy my Apple Watch, it's not perfect, but it's great for what I use it for.
 
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was going to get the classic buckle for my SS but realised nah might as well get a £10 one from amazon...better than spending 130 on an apple one
 
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Breaking News: Guy who lives on small island says he hasn't seen that many Apple Watches.

ohh I see you are drinking lots of haterade today. Its more dense than NY by sq mile :p (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...itories_in_square_miles_and_square_kilometers).
Density is very important if you want to see more than one of something in a time frame...

I'm going to keep it simple for you: If they were selling like hotcakes you wouldn't see $100 discounts on them.
 
How is that a failure? The iPod sold 600,000 in it's first 14 months, and the watch sold millions. Also, Steve is dead.
even replying to somebody who uses no logic and hates the apple watch is pointless. It's great for those who use the watch as we know.
 
The Apple Watch has barely been out for ONE YEAR. Comparing it to the iPod in terms of influence is really not fair yet. I am just sick of people saying it's a failure..it's a new platform and needs time to "grow up". Fitbit may sell more devices, but I am really not so sure Apple Watch is a Fitbit competitor, just because you wear both on your wrist. I am not trying to vent at you, but the OP I quoted just spews this stuff out on most every post he makes. I enjoy my Apple Watch, it's not perfect, but it's great for what I use it for.

Sure, but you were the one comparing AW sales to iPod sales. I just responded because, I agree, it's a stupid comparison for reasons outlined.

I didn't say AW was a failure. Impossible to say w/o hard numbers or Apple ceasing sales, which its obviously not with the soon release of Watch OS 3. Just the same one can't say its a success either. At this point it looks like an overhyped hobby.

Fitbit and AW are both in the wearable's category. They are fishing for the same customer, esp. with the Sport model -- probably why Apple lowered the priced on that model, to better compete with the Blaze.

Agree, AW has promise. I have a love/hate relationship with mine, but more love than hate I guess because it's still on my wrist. Watch OS 3 looks like a nice "do over" for many of the things that annoy me like slow/non loading apps. We'll see.
 
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If this means they are phasing out the Apple Watch, then, sadly I think it's for the best.

Like Apple Pay, it is clear that it hasn't been the success that Apple would have hoped and expected it to be.

No one knows what Apple's internal projections were, but selling millions of a watch in its first year is hardly a lack of success. Most everyone uses mobile phones -- and used them before the iPhone debuted, too -- but watches aren't worn by nearly as many people anymore. And yet, the Apple Watch still sold several million units of a product that was far from perfect, but is about to get a whole lot better.

With the Apple Watch 2 likely set to see a substantial jump in sales over the first iteration, why on Earth would Apple phase out the Apple Watch? The only thing that makes you even entertain the completely nonsensical idea that they are phasing out the Watch is that you have some weird bitterness towards its existence. After all, they only just got through demoing the latest operating system for it. Every shred of evidence in existence only proves they're doing the opposite of phasing it out.

You're in some sort of odd denial.
 
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ohh I see you are drinking lots of haterade today. Its more dense than NY by sq mile :p (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...itories_in_square_miles_and_square_kilometers).
Density is very important if you want to see more than one of something in a time frame...

I'm going to keep it simple for you: If they were selling like hotcakes you wouldn't see $100 discounts on them.

You know what else is important? Lots of disposable income. Not trying to say everyone in PR is poor, but there is a lot less free cash floating around to buy luxury goods than in, say, NY. Let me make it simple for you: economics.

Also your discount example is stupid. Apple has lowered prices on iPhones before the new model comes out and they most certainly sell like hotcakes.
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THAT is how I feel about Apple these days.

The watch bands, hiring fashionistas for ridiculous amounts of money, the Beats fiasco, the Social Justice insanity, the endless fancy parties for the ultra wealthy, the top executives getting disgustingly fat.

It's debauchery of a whole new level that makes the Romans look like innocent kindergarteners compared to the snake pit we're witnessing now

CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY

The only thing really CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY here is you comparing Apple to a society known for incest, slavery and killing as entertainment, and then saying Apple is worse. This is possibly the most bizarre, nonsensical criticism that I've read on this forum...that's quite an achievement.
 
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They've run out of watch straps? This is news on Macrumors?!? There was a time a Mac OS X beta would be a news story such as 10.11.6 update today but no mention. Just these lousy watch straps.
 
They've run out of watch straps? This is news on Macrumors?!? There was a time a Mac OS X beta would be a news story such as 10.11.6 update today but no mention. Just these lousy watch straps.


This upset you? It gives speculation that something might be coming in the watch category soon. You don't have to click on every story if the topic doesn't interest you.
 
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Whatever the case may be, it's par for the course. Fashion is only fashion if it continously renewed.
Some may even become collectibles.
And if the lugs needed to be modified that's also par for the course for technology. The true crossroads of Art & Technology.
Only the people who live to be outraged and have a daily quota could be miffed.
Especially when everyone knew the deal with the first gen Watch. I high-fived everyone who bought one for beta-testing it for me. You are awesome.
Can't wait to get my hands on the second gen version.

Outrage is a little strong... but I would be bummed if I couldn't use my current Apple Watch bands on gen 2. They definitely never promised or even insinuated that we should be able to... but it would still be a bummer.

I don't think it would keep me from buying Gen 2... but it would make me think twice about investing quite so much in bands next time (I currently have 6 genuine Apple Watch bands). I'm sure I would buy a couple though (Rubber, Milanese and Leather are basically required).
 
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