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I'm actually being serious when I say this, but I do look forward to new watch bands. Last year, the Woven Nylon was released, and I jumped on the "Apple can't innovate" wagon myself, but then I bought a Woven Nylon band and loved it. It's my current daily band and I hope Apple can release some more lower-cost watch bands like the Woven Nylon so I can mix up my watch band selection.
 
"Courage" is the new "holding it wrong", sadly. An easy but failing attempt at being witty.
[doublepost=1487106643][/doublepost]Do you really think the engineers who can write code to fix that problem are instead... writing and debugging pages of code for new watchbands? If not, then what does your comment have to do with the article?
I always thought the holding it wrong thing was a tipping of the hat to Hermoine Granger. Pitty.
 
I hope they've got one intern working on those bands and full teams focused on Mac hardware.

That said, the profit margin on some of those bands probably exceeds those of a Mac mini.
 
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This is the best post ever. Couldn't agree more :D
 
Is this the exciting things in the pipeline that Tim Cook mentioned for 2017. If so there is trouble :p:D
 
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LOL!!!
 
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Totally agree. I was happy with this news as it points to March refresh and raising possibility of iPad Pro 2
 
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It all started after they implemented the voting system. Especially after they removed the downvote button. And even more especially after they started displaying how many likes people have and who is voting on comments. All the snarky responses rise to the top, and people post things that are likely to get a lot of votes. I know I'm guilty of it sometimes, especially when I'm pretty pissed about a decision Apple made, but I usually try to contribute in a more productive manner by making connections between different rumors and news stories to see the bigger picture and what Apple might do next. But those posts don't get upvotes, and therefore they don't get attention because they're not listed right under the story. Much likes the news these days, people want to be entertained above all else, so we're left with a bunch of crap with no substance that caters to certain popular world views.
 
I'm actually being serious when I say this, but I do look forward to new watch bands. Last year, the Woven Nylon was released, and I jumped on the "Apple can't innovate" wagon myself, but then I bought a Woven Nylon band and loved it. It's my current daily band and I hope Apple can release some more lower-cost watch bands like the Woven Nylon so I can mix up my watch band selection.

Same here. The nylon bands looked cheap to me from the pictures, sort of like that nylon wallet we all had back in high school. After ordering the black nylon and pearl band, they were surprisingly comfortable and Durable. They actually appear Much nicer in person. One of favorite bands I own.
 
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The spring Apple Watch collection is always something that excites me. I know Apple cops a lot of hate for the bands on here, but I'm honestly addicted to collecting them. It's a fun hobby.

Most people don't care about the bands either way. The 'gripe' is not really about that. It's about the fact that the highest capitalized company EVER can't seem to consistently roll out anything more than watch bands. Sure, they've got a lot of effort on the backend that doesn't see the retail market, but come on... with the cash and personnel of Apple there's no excuse for a lack of yearly refreshes on ALL of their product lines.
 
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Pfft. They were never in stock to begin with over where I'm at, at least the 42mm bands. Apple thinks only 38mm users want to change bands. I had to buy a Belkin strap as an alternative. :(
 
I think this "courageous" thing has been well worn out. Can't you guys come up with something new?
It is a gift from Apple, that keeps on giving.
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It's amazing. Every time I visit my local apple store there is NEVER anyone looking at the watch table. Who is buying these?
I notice the same, but I know an awful lot of women who wear these things.
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Valid points. But why isn't there an updated Mac Pro then? Clearly Apple has refocused their efforts, and THAT's the problem I have. The Apple Watch is fine, but why does Apple need to abandon other products in order to make it? That's what doesn't make sense to me. They have the resources to do both, so why aren't they doing it? It ticks me off.

That's easy. There isn't enough demand to warrant it. If there was, and not just a few members on a forum group, Apple would have a massive amounts of resources dedicated to it. But like any smart business it's proportional to the revenue they receive from it.
 
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This is the only meaningful post so far in this thread. Sometimes I think Macrumors should post a thread for information purposes but lock it to comments. I can only imagine the delight on some posters faces as they found a thread they could put all of their knowledge and wit into. :)
 
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Apple Pencil. Airpods. Plenty of new and innovative stuff coming from Apple these days. Something my credit card was all too intimately familiar with last year.
I'll give you the AirPods, that was the only thing that piqued my interest at the last September/Fall event. The Apple Pencil, is good but an accessory that can only be fully utilized with the iPad Pro (if it was compatible with earlier iPads I would cede the point but what percentage are iPad Pros, and how many are using the pencil?). Both the Apple Pencil and AirPods product launches were botched. Both had significant "shortages" while the AirPods were delayed nearly two months after Tim said "late October".

Both of these are accessories-granted the airpods aren't restricted to use inside Apples Ecosystem apart from taking advantage of the iCloud automatic syncing feature.

I don't expect Apple to come out with a breakthrough invention or creation every 9-18 months, as much as I expect them to keep current with the competition across all their product lines, desktop, notebook, tablet, phones, watch, and all else under the portfolio. The MacBook Air (reasonably so) is essentially dead with the new MacBook, where Apple filled the void, there is no such filler for a workstation class desktop or low end desktop. Even Apple backed display "solution" is sub par and has been pulled from shelves. (Sorry for the tangent here), but many were clamoring it was good enough, Apple and LG worked together on this thing-it's great... here we are less than two months of it being on the market for it to be pulled from shelves because of an engineering/manufacturing failure to properly shield the thing. Again a void created by apple's neglect only to be left void by partering with an inferior display manufacturer (remember all those LG retina displays that were failing and having ghosting issues in the original retina MacBook Pro circa mid 2012.)

So I pose the argument, apart from incremental improvements what has Apple done, other than preach courage? There computer lines are lingering (which has been pointed out through much of the forum, posting the "buyers guide" as indisputable evidence that they are way off cycle). A new MacBook Pro, even without arguing the port issue, was a critical blow to battery life, even so much as to save face Apple had to remove the energy left estimation, with a touch bar that by many accounts is still nothing to get too excited about. When we enter the mobile and phone space there are incremental updates, enough to keep up with the competition, but nothing putting them ahead of the competition.

I further ask what is Apple to do? They are no longer seen by the consumer youth as "cool" and often there products are low on the "what would you want/buy" in surveys and polls. The veteran crowd is feeling neglected (and rightfully so) and are lookong into alternatives (seriously http://www.pcworld.com/article/3168...c-to-pc-part-1-whats-driving-me-to-do-it.html). So what does that leave? Those still at the kool aid? The Beats 1 entourage? The the watch band collector aficionados?

I was sincerely impressed with the AirPods, I was at my local Apple store launch day, only to be turned away, but lucky enough to snag one of the Best Buy stock drops before Christmas, the Apple Pencil is a great accessory for a limited percentage of iPads. Here's honestly hoping for something new other than a few different color strips of wrist rubber come this spring.
 
90% of you people need to fill your pockets with wrenches and just walk into the ocean. Bunch of self-entitled whining brats. If you spent 1/10 of your snark energy on actual productive, critical thought, MacRumors forums would be a lovely place. Like it used to be. Also get off my lawn.

I don't really disagree with your analogy. But the fact is, with the changes with Apple, has also changed the perception of others and they express views with Apple other than what you appreciate. I agree there are far too many sophomoric, childish comments on here that degrade the discussion perspective side of things. Ignoring and weeding is your only option. You can't change anything and there will always be the issue with Trolling and Apple hate. It is what is.

You can counter by being productive in your discussion and contribution, but we can't influence others to change. It's ugly at times, but necessary to stand out among the negative vibes.

I for one, appreciate a good debate/discussion, but I don't trash Apple for the sake of proving anything. I'm an Apple supporter, but if I disagree with something they did, I reply so tastefully.
 
90% of you people need to fill your pockets with wrenches and just walk into the ocean. Bunch of self-entitled whining brats. If you spent 1/10 of your snark energy on actual productive, critical thought, MacRumors forums would be a lovely place. Like it used to be. Also get off my lawn.

That time is long gong. They should really rename mac rumours to macRetards, because thats what over 90% of the people here are. I am also curious what the mods are doing or not doing.
 
It's always lovely to have a new $100+ watch band rather than new Macs.... who needs to buy a PC anyway?
Last time I bought a Mac was 2009. Macbook Pro Mid 2009. Still works great, especially with Mac OS! I did buy a watch band though the other week :)
 
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