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I see a lot of people from reddit and facebook reporting that kind of optical issue which I never have seen before. Obviously, it's a hardware issue that can not be fixed in software easily.

I just wonder why is this happening? Does Apple really care about product quality?
 

BugeyeSTI

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It’s called lense flare and all cameras can exhibit it. Cell phone cameras have an outer piece of glass that protects the lense underneath it. It reflects light back into the camera and thats what you looking at in the video. This is a picture taken with a DSLR and a $3500 Leica lense:
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Here’s a couple of threads explaining it:

Nothing new really...
 
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Pro7913

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It’s called lense flare and all cameras can exhibit it. Cell phone cameras have an outer piece of glass that protects the lense underneath it. It reflects light back into the camera and thats what you looking at in the video. This is a picture taken with a DSLR and a $3500 Leica lense:
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Here’s a couple of threads explaining it:

Nothing new really...

Did you check the video?
 
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BugeyeSTI

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Did you check the video?
Of course I did. I just showed you a pic of a camera system that cost 10x the cost of an iPhone 11 Pro and it exhibits the same issue if you put it under the same conditions. Professional photographers know how to eliminate or minimize the effect with experience/knowledge and other techniques or filters.. Shooting video or pictures under the conditions in that video are challenging. Dark background and really bright lights coming from different angles, it definitely looks awful in the video for sure. I’d like to see some testing using other flagship phone camera systems under the same conditions to see how they fare..
 

chanerz

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That is lens flare. Not a software or hardware issue.
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here’s my 11 pro max direct sunlight. I can make it go away if I change the angle.
 

Pro7913

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Of course I did. I just showed you a pic of a camera system that cost 10x the cost of an iPhone 11 Pro and it exhibits the same issue if you put it under the same conditions. Professional photographers know how to eliminate or minimize the effect with experience/knowledge and other techniques or filters.. Shooting video or pictures under the conditions in that video are challenging. Dark background and really bright lights coming from different angles, it definitely looks awful in the video for sure. I’d like to see some testing using other flagship phone camera systems under the same conditions to see how they fare..

I know what you are saying but I'm talking about different issue.


Does it look normal to you?
 

BugeyeSTI

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I know what you are saying but I'm talking about different issue.


Does it look normal to you?
It looks crappie that’s for sure.. The image is being reflected back into the camera lense by the outer glass on the housing. It’s worse on the IPhone in that pic but, I see it faintly on the Samsung phone image too. My iPhone X does it too.. I just try different shots to see what works best then delete all the crappie pics. I’ve found situations where my pics come out nice and on the flip side some circumstances when I see the camera doesn’t do well so I avoid them.
 

redbeard331

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Of course I did. I just showed you a pic of a camera system that cost 10x the cost of an iPhone 11 Pro and it exhibits the same issue if you put it under the same conditions. Professional photographers know how to eliminate or minimize the effect with experience/knowledge and other techniques or filters.. Shooting video or pictures under the conditions in that video are challenging. Dark background and really bright lights coming from different angles, it definitely looks awful in the video for sure. I’d like to see some testing using other flagship phone camera systems under the same conditions to see how they fare..

That isn’t lens flare dude, that’s some horrible ghosting and my phone does it too, saying so and so expensive lens has flare has nothing to do with this nasty ghosting the new iPhones suffer from. And no, not even my cheap ass kit lenses do it.
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It looks crappie that’s for sure.. The image is being reflected back into the camera lense by the outer glass on the housing. It’s worse on the IPhone in that pic but, I see it faintly on the Samsung phone image too. My iPhone X does it too.. I just try different shots to see what works best then delete all the crappie pics. I’ve found situations where my pics come out nice and on the flip side some circumstances when I see the camera doesn’t do well so I avoid them.

That is a video, where is he supposed to aim it to eliminate the ghosting? The opposite direction of what is being filmed?
I have a suspicion part of the problem is being caused by the mirrored finish on the rings around the 3 lenses because in all my videos and pics at night I see this 3 pointed ufo looking thing, and it’s also in many other peoples videos and pictures.
 

Simacca

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That isn’t lens flare dude, that’s some horrible ghosting and my phone does it too, saying so and so expensive lens has flare has nothing to do with this nasty ghosting the new iPhones suffer from. And no, not even my cheap ass kit lenses do it.
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That is a video, where is he supposed to aim it to eliminate the ghosting? The opposite direction of what is being filmed?
I have a suspicion part of the problem is being caused by the mirrored finish on the rings around the 3 lenses because in all my videos and pics at night I see this 3 pointed ufo looking thing, and it’s also in many other peoples videos and pictures.


Would be great if this was caused by the mirrored finish on the lenses. Just have to colour them black and see if it solves the problem.
 
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