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I'm pretty sure we all expect SOME change to the UI to get the average user to spend $129 this summer on a new OS. Not everyone will understand, or care about, the changes under the hood. Many users will just upgrade for one or two new features. (Enter 'Marble')
 
Wait, so smoothing out some corners of windows and "flattening" is considered a dramatic change to the OS? Kinda blowing things out of proportion huh?
 
I don't have any complaints with the interface. At least the changes aren't drastic like over in the Windows camp. Moving from 98 to XP was hell back in those days.
 
Wait, so smoothing out some corners of windows and "flattening" is considered a dramatic change to the OS? Kinda blowing things out of proportion huh?

Whoa guy. Have you not seen all of the other changes to coming in Snow Leopard? This is not the major change to the OS but it just adds to the overall overhaul of the OS. Most people will agree that the UI in OS X needs to be unified. The whole idea behind OS X is that when you can use one program, you can use them all because the UI is the same. This makes it very simple to use a Mac. They made a step in the right direction with Leopard and are now just taking it a few steps further.
 
what does this all mean?
sorry im a bit confused......:confused:

ive never used a mac
but intend to get one

and if this is a great thing included in the new Snow Leopard
i will wait to purchase my iMac and get it when it gets released in June
 
now this is some news i wanted to see! Even with rumors spiraling out of control about the new iPhone, a 'Tablet', 3.0 Surprises, and more - i am probably the most excited about Snow Leopard.

first thing i do when it comes out is to my Mac Mini. gettin a 7200RPM and a fresh install of it :)
 
I hope QuickTime X would give a better idea

I know it's just a artist's rendition, but if Apple could find a way to pull this off for all of their apps, I would be very impressed.

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The original discussion can be found here
 
I certainly welcome the new "Marble" theme as I am really done with aqua. The traffic lights need to go. The aqua scrollbars need to go. The Dock needs to be uniform from the left side of the screen to the right. My windows are always hanging off the edges of the Dock and it makes me want to keep them dead set in the middle to stay evenly in line with the Dock. iTunes falls behind the Dock when resizing it past the length of the Dock and while other apps don't, weird.

I also wish and hope Apple offers a button to lock the Dock items from accidentally being dragged off into a poof. I run a business on Macs and when someone uses the computer they tend to drag stuff off the Dock thinking they deleted something. This can be a disaster for big companies using Macs.

Also I hope Apple allows for us to adjust the Dock without having to use the Terminal to get a 2D Dock.

I would also like Snow Leopard's Finder to be fixed so you can unplug USB and Firewire items without having to eject.
I hate to admit but I do like how Windows Vista's apps fade in when launching, I would like to see SN's apps all zoom in like Quicklook and the iWork suite.

I won't go into the Finder's UI because most people know what's wrong with the Finder especially in terms of Coverflow's resizing issues.
 
I like aqua. Guess I'm stupid or something.

Me too.

Who really cares about the color of the scroll bar? Or if it's the same from app to app? That doesn't change the functionality or anything. I'm sure it wouldn't change my overall mac experience if they were all the same either.
 
Wait, so smoothing out some corners of windows and "flattening" is considered a dramatic change to the OS? Kinda blowing things out of proportion huh?

I know. "Oooh, they're tweaking the appearance again. So this really was more than just an 'under the hood' clean-up!" Well, not really. They ALWAYS tweak the look when they update, and they always promise to make it all consistent, and they haven't since they had the metal finish. All they need to do is get it right this time, and by "right", I mean consistent. I really don't care for which shade of grey I get. Just choose one, Apple.

Unless they're reverting back to the old Dock, or the opaque menu bars up top, or go back to pinstripes, this is just another ho-hum tweak.


I've always bought the updates for the real changes they made. They aren't changing the look of OS X, especially not to make it more Windows 7-ish.
 
Really though...

Why change something that works fine and people are used to? Not to be cliche but, don't fix what isn't broken.

I hope they at least give Aqua is still an option at least. And seriously, stop adding cover flow to everything. Sure it looks nice, but it's a horrible inefficient way to navigate through anything.
 
P.S. isn't black and sliver (albeit for apple's defense, anodized aluminum) the color scheme that has been used for consumer electronics for decades. Sure it may be a 'new look' for apple, but doesn't it just bring it in line with every other consumer electronics company. I fear that as time goes on and Apple physically switched from white and clear or aluminum, it will also be a metaphorical switch to products that are just, well, more like everything else.
Sure, their products did stand out more in the past; first when they were colorful and curvy when all PCs were beige and square, then when they were white when all PCs were black. I was sort of taken aback when they went black on silver with the MacBook Air, I didn't expect them to go with a commonplace color combo that's already on every Dell Inspiron and Sony Vaio, not to mention the original Titanium PowerBook G4...

It would be nice if they consolidated everything, though, they're all over the place right now. Aqua was designed to match the blobby plastic models like the turqoise G3 and early iMacs, they've flattened it a little and gotten rid of the pinstripes but it's still there. The white peripherals (cables, docks, mice, keyboards etc) were made to match the white era Macs (circa 2003-2007). Both looks clash badly with the black/alu computers. I use a Logitech DiNovo Edge glossy black/brushed aluminium keyboard with my iMac, the only thing that looks out of place on my desk is the white iPhone 3G dock that's made by, erm, Apple. That can't be right. Please bring out a backlit version of the Apple keyboard, with black keys...
 
I like aqua. Guess I'm stupid or something.

I've only been a Mac user for a little over a year - I really *like* the Aqua interface. I tried the drab graphite theme, and it looked like something you'd find in an accountant's office.

I hope they keep Aqua as an option, at least.

Now, if by "marble" they mean the UI is gonna have a marble texture on stuff...oh yeah, bring it on! :D
 
Really though...

Why change something that works fine and people are used to? Not to be cliche but, don't fix what isn't broken.

I hope they at least give Aqua is still an option at least. And seriously, stop adding cover flow to everything. Sure it looks nice, but it's a horrible inefficient way to navigate through anything.

Coverflow is great when you're using your fingers.

And it's also very good when going through tons of documents. you get a preview of the document. I love it.
 
I also wish and hope Apple offers a button to lock the Dock items from accidentally being dragged off into a poof. I run a business on Macs and when someone uses the computer they tend to drag stuff off the Dock thinking they deleted something. This can be a disaster for big companies using Macs.

I know you can do this. That is how my University has the Macs setup. I just do not know how they do it.
 
Coverflow is great when you're using your fingers.

And it's also very good when going through tons of documents. you get a preview of the document. I love it.

I don't think it's great when you have your fingers. You can only see one thing at a time, anything ahead or behind is obscured. And there is also no way to navigate through anything in segments like there are with a scrollable list.

Sure, cool, you can see a preview of a document or w/e it is. 1) you can get a preview of the document with out cover flow and 2) seeing a little thumbnail of a research paper isn't as telling as a title because the thumbnail is too tiny to make any of the text out.

It's simply not practical. Sure you're buying into oh it looks cool, but that has nothing to do with practicality.

I've never seen anyone use cover flow when they were legitimately looking for a specific thing. EVER.
 
All they need to do is get it right this time, and by "right", I mean consistent. I really don't care for which shade of grey I get. Just choose one, Apple.
It would be nice, but I think the company is too big and unweildy with too many quasi-independent departments to bring everything together. It would take a rabid nazi to whip everyone into submission. They release guidelines for everyone else, then 15 minutes later they themselves start ignoring them. Remember the brushed aluminium look that was to be used exclusively for applications that interface with hardware in some way or other (iSync etc)? It only took months before that look started appearing in other Apple software that had nothing to do with hardware interfacing. Then out of nowhere came the Mail look, with the flat grey style. Oooh, said the iTunes guys, we're gonna use that too.

It's just like the guys over in Redmond, Vista and Win7 sport several different looks from different versions of Windows, they use several different system fonts with blatant inconsistency. And on top of that there's the WMP look, the Live look, the IE look, the Office look...
 
OS X is going on ten years old... I would like to see a change to s smoother, duotone look. I always change my theme to graphite immediately after installation. I would kinda like an elegant, modern version of NextStep. How cool would that be?

Hey Balin64, sorry this is off topic but I can't post in the correct thread. You still got those Sublime pics? I think a lot of people would be interested over at the Skunk message board. Let me know, thanks!
 
This is great! I look forward to the new GUI.

Interesting how both the iTunes 7 look and the black HUD look are referenced. Will Snow Leopard use both exclusively?
 
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