Hellhammer
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Apple could swap the HD for mSATA SSD or shrink the battery in order to increase the size of the logic board to fit three major chips.
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March 1st as Possible Date for New MacBook Pros?
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Apple could swap the HD for mSATA SSD or shrink the battery in order to increase the size of the logic board to fit three major chips.
These are normal prices here in europe, basic MBP 13 starts at aprox. 1500$ here in Czech Republic (with 20% vat incl. and 2 years warranty)
mSATA SSD - sizes smaller than the 1199 MacBook Air that comes with 128GB of flash storage.
Battery - both of us know this is not going to happen.
That leaves the ODD which lines up perfectly with the removal of physical software from Apple's retail stores and the introduction of the Mac App Store.
Hellhammer
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Or the ODD stays there and Apple uses the Intel IGP. Honestly, I think that is what they are going to do.
Well, let's look at this from the perspective of Apple.
"We could either remove the ODD and put discrete graphics in or we can leave the ODD that we want to kill eventually and use Intel's graphics.""Hmm..."
If Apple had no plans of killing it off this refresh then Apple wouldn't be removing retail software from their stores.
Mailia
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Hellhammer
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The removal of the ODD is a moot point. There are arguments for and against it. Even though there are lots of arguments for it, it does not mean that Apple will do that, yet. The truth is, we have to wait till the update to see what will happen.
Personally, I would like to see it being removed but I don't think it's going to happen in next update.
Yes, because clearly you have to be someone to get their perspective. 🙄
Then explain to me why Apple started removing retail software from their retail stores now as opposed to the next refresh? Only reason Apple saw fit to keep the ODD was for installing software and that's now gone.
Hellhammer
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It was just a rumor. Feel free to share some proofs that Apple has already started removing retail software from retail stores.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/07/apple-to-eliminate-retail-box-software-inventory/
cmaier
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Apple stores still have all the same retail software they had last month,at least here in silicon valley. Don't use one unsubstantiated rumor as proof of another.
Mailia
macrumors 6502
Uhm, yeah, that's how it works. You can't have my perspective and I can't have yours. You may try to imagine how I see things and I may imagine how you see things, based on a lot of factors, but you still can't make anything solid out of it really. I doubt you have Apple's agenda on your mind that well that you can start talking about their perspective.
I'm pretty sure people still buy and rents DVDs and Apple has to offer them something as well. Software isn't the only reason.
cmaier
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Stridder44
macrumors 68040
Oh yes, how dare I use a rumor to back up what I've been saying as opposed to both of you who have used... nothing to back up your argument? 🙄
The rumor adds up.
It's called putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Ever heard of that saying? No?
Person 1: "I can't believe that bitch took my money"
Person 2: "I can see your point of view, I had a bitch steal my money last week"
More people will buy through iTunes, which is what Apple wants you to do.
cmaier
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Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't make an argument and hence I have no need to back anything up.
But you stated as a fact that apple removed software from its stores, and claimed that this proves it's time to remove the ODD. We merely pointed out the premise of your argument is flawed. Apple has removed nothing from it's stores. When an argument is based on a faulty premise, it must be discarded.
Hellhammer
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I didn't post an argument, I posted an opinion.
I already said it's pointless to argue because no matter how many arguments there are for it, it does not mean that it's going to happen for sure.
I didn't know you designed a laptop last week.
Mailia
macrumors 6502
Wait, what?! How is a rumor being evidence better than the evidence of the status quo?
Apple: "I'm so going to remove the optical drives out of my hugely successful laptops."
You, apparently: "I can see your point of view, I removed the optical drives out of my hugely successful laptops as well."
The two are not the same. You are not Apple. You're not a big company making technology products.
How many countries does that work now in? Can I count them with a finger or will I need a whole hand?
camelsnot
macrumors 6502
Apple does what they want and consumers fall in line. While there are gripes and moans, consumers still tend to continue to buy Apple products regardless of any shortcomings due to Steve Jobs decisions on what he thinks is best. As many complaints are there on potential ipad2 rumors, it's still guaranteed to sell extremely well, even to those on here who moaned about potential lack of features. I venture to say a lot of the complainers on here will still fall in line and buy the product. It's the Apple way.
cmaier
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Completely impractical in a business environment, particularly when I have the only Mac (not supported by IT). I use it in my office and on the road, and don't want to lug an external drive (and have no ability to network to one).
If my argument is flawed then everyone else's argument is baseless.
Yes, you posted an opinion that you had nothing to back up your reasoning with.
Wait, what?! How is a rumor that adds up with Apple's recent statement about "the next generation of MacBooks" add up with the release of the Mac App Store??? WELL GOLLY I DONT KNOW
Actually that would go something like this:
Apple: "We've removed the optical drives from our laptops because we thought the benefits far outweigh keeping it in there"
Consumer: "I see their point of view and understand their reasoning for removing it"
Better tell that to all of those MacBook Air owners in other countries. 😉
God forbid you have to "lug" around something that weighs 0.7 pounds and will likely be in the same briefcase you carry your MBP around in.
notabadname
macrumors 68000
I think you make a very fair and excellent point. I realize my use of the optical is certainly rare as compared to other features, and I certainly would consider the trade-off. I guess my real hope is becoming more tied to the OS and future support of blu-ray, and an ability to install an internal Blu-ray drive in my Mac Pro, which is where I really do the heavy hitting, or have an external play fully with an external blu-ray drive. I just am not sure what the real differentiation would be between the Air and the Pro at that point though. Would it all just be essentially an Air line, maybe eventually going from 11, 13, 15 and 17 inches?