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What an embarrassing thread. Makes you wonder what 90% of the MR community does besides being keyboard warriors on an Internet forum.
 
On top of being morally bankrupt human scum, zuckerburg has no intelligence to speak of whatsoever. He didn't code even one tiny piece of anything to do with facebook. He stole people's ideas and then convinced other people to do the work to put those ideas into action and then he stole all the credit. Now he maintains his ill gotten wealth through one of the most lucrative pyramid schemes of all time relying completely on mass identity theft.

Show me some evidence of zuckerburg's supposed interaction with Steve Jobs. From what I can tell this is just another barely intelligible attempt at social relevance by a hack who has to ride on the coat tails of everyone else to get anywhere.
 
I got the point, but I still dislike both Mark Z. and Julian Ass.

I think people thought I was talking about Jobs, based on the -6, but whatever. Must be Julian/Bookface fans in the house.

The funny thing is, we ALL knew you were talking about zuckerberg. the fact of the matter is, he IS NOT smart in any way. he's a blubbering idiot.

The Social Network overdone his awesome by about a trillion times.
 
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All free sites are ad driven. That's how they get the money.

MR is also a free page if you opt for it. But I'm sure they don't sniff too much in my mails and adress book to propose friends. I'm not against ads; that's the price I'm willing to "pay" when using so called free sites. I understand the economics behind. All I'm asking for is transparency on what price I have to pay, in money or privacy. And a clear scope which should be a little less then my whole online existence. Again: when log off from MR I don't get bothered anymore. If I log off from FB I still see many traces. Dislike.

Update: when Apple introduced Ping the first thing I looked for: how to switch off. Also Apple don't need to tell everyone what boring music I listen. Having a button where I can activly decide to share: fine with it. Just want to decide myself.
 
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I don't have one either.

Facebook is of no use to me, and I knew that from day one. Speaking only for myself, I have far better things to do, of much greater excitement that to sit at a computer and "socialize".

I'm an outgoing, active, athletic and very social person. I visit with friends while we are cycling on a century run. Or while hiking, or when we are out kayaking... there is far too much fun to be had outdoors in California to be stuck inside.

That's my take on it and I'm sticking to it.... :D


As you socialize....on a message board
 
Zuckerburg sounded completely incoherent here. No wonder he has to surround himself with people who actually know how to run a business.

I guess one can't expect much more from people that rip off ideas. Zuckerberg is an opportunist at best. A Steve Jobs he is far from.
 
I have not met Zuckerberg. Jobs has.

I trust Jobs' assessment of a tech guy's overall value. Jobs was willing to trash a "bozo" with full candor -- and then some.

Jobs seemed to have a rare appreciation of Zuckerberg.

My conclusion: Zuckerberg likely isn't a bozo.

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I guess one can't expect much more from people that rip off ideas. Zuckerberg is an opportunist at best. A Steve Jobs he is far from.

Jobs did his fair share of ripping off ideas. That's a fact.
 
maybe Zuckerberg likes to talk and isn't the swiftest in interviews...but he has a great platform with Facebook and that has LOTS of potential as Jobs saw.


But trying to read through the interview transcript posted he (Z) sounds a bit frazzled and one who likes to keep his lips moving.
 
However - I don't get all the fuss about 'stealing information' and 'privacy breaches'. You put it there! It's not like facebook hacked into God knows what and stole it from you, you offered it to them on their own website.

Ease up people!

I think the issue most ppl have with FB privacy is the fact that there is a fundamental deception being perpetrated by Facebook. It is ostensibly a social network that allows you to post information, pictures, messages, etc that can then be read by other users on the internet. However, Facebook surrepticiously harvests the data, packages it, and sells or otherwise transmits it to various companies and databases without users explicit knowledge. (Yes, I know, information available "to everyone" means just that.) Still, the information is used in ways that couldn't realistically be predicted by users based solely upon Facebook's advertised function.

When you shop at a store like Target and pay with a credit card, the store has your name and a record of everything you bought. However, you don't expect them to correlate those things and sell the resulting personal information. By your argument, that would be acceptable, because, after all, you gave them the information. There is a difference between random internet users browsing information that you make public and the host of the information mining the data for profit.
 
Mark Zuckerberg is nothing more than a guy who wanted to get laid. And that made him rich.

He'll never be anything more than that.

(That's just my opinion)
 
How was Mark lucky? They are both brilliant at what they did. Why the hate?

If you meant he did it at the right place and the right time, then the same can be said about Steve Jobs.

Of course i dont truly hate him...Im just tired of all the labels of genius applied to him (and the fan fare that goes with it...i.e., cover of TIME).
Zuck took something that was done well before, tweaked it, appealed with exclusivity, got big, lost that exclusivity, and is resting on his laurels. Sorry, I dont respect that. On a deeper note, FaceBook is just a service. Apple makes things, beautiful things. Comparing the two leaders is beyond silly.


Luck, is the only reason Mark Zuckerberg isnt a Junior developer at Google right now.
 
He always sounds awkward when discussing Apple and Steve Jobs. This is the third time I've heard him barely be able to sound coherent about the topic.
 
thanks for the link but why would I care what a bunch of actors and actresses think. If we were talking about acting they may have a valuable perspective.

For those worried about privacy it's the Internet not your private bubble. If you don't want anything to get into the public domain don't put it on the Internet anywhere. Google+ is less secure by default. Also, are any of you really that interesting that someone who doesn't know you cares what you are upto or where you are.
 
Don't worry about Mark Zuckerberg improving.

If there's one thing that Mark Zuckerberg knows it's how to iterate and improve. Don't worry about him becoming more well spoken. I love that despite his nervousness, he still gets up on stage and gives it another go. I know many people who would give up after the bad press and just hire a PR guy to go up there. If you actually watch his talks, sure there's still fumbles and awkward laughter from him, but he's gotten so much better.

More importantly, Facebook is doing so many things right. Not just kinda right, but very "right" way that Jobs talked about. People complain about the changes Facebook makes EACH TIME Facebook makes them, but they come to rely on those features and it keeps Facebook a step ahead. Not the first social site, but the best social site.

I have an enormous family and it's incredibly comforting to just be able to check on how my nieces and nephews, cousins, aunts and uncles are doing overseas. I can just see pictures of my brother's newborn. Just leave a nice message. It keeps relationships intact with people you haven't spoken with in years. The barrier is much lower. You don't have to put yourself out there to maintain a strong relationship with people who matter to you (even though you forget how much they matter sometimes).

Then there's how I can plan stuff with all my friends. Make the fun we had last weekend last longer. Events become something you talk about for days after. Maybe you met a friend of a friend... an email exchange might be overkill, but there's no harm in adding them to Facebook.

Finally there's the companies that I care about enough that I think about them as sorts of "people" too. They have personalities and foibles... they may as well be people to me. I've added them on Facebook too.

Besides Apple, Facebook is my favourite tech company. I hope we can get a few more that changes people's lives this much. I'm obviously not alone... 750 million users at last count.
 
AMEN! Maybe he needs to go back to Harvard and take an English or Presentation class or something... Good lord! Scatter brained much??

Mark, LAY OFF THE CRACK!

Judging by the newest iterations of Facebook (where you can now Facebook on top of your Facebook while you Facebook) I think he's hitting the pipe harder than ever.
 
I know this is just a transcript, but he really needs to learn how to speak well.
Why? It's not like he's trying to be a politician (yet). As long as he's doing good things for Facebook, I couldn't care less about his speaking ability.
 
Of course i dont truly hate him...Im just tired of all the labels of genius applied to him (and the fan fare that goes with it...i.e., cover of TIME).
Zuck took something that was done well before, tweaked it, appealed with exclusivity, got big, lost that exclusivity, and is resting on his laurels. Sorry, I dont respect that. On a deeper note, FaceBook is just a service. Apple makes things, beautiful things. Comparing the two leaders is beyond silly.


Luck, is the only reason Mark Zuckerberg isnt a Junior developer at Google right now.

Steve jobs took something that was done well before, tweaked it, appealed with exclusivity, got big..... C'mon!
 
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Zuckerberg might be smart, he sure doesn't know how to articulate. That was one of the most incoherent quotes I've ever re-read.

+1. I couldn't help but think the same thing as I was struggling to get through it.

All I can say is 'come again?'
 
For a split second I thought the headline said "Mark Zuckerberg Dismisses Steve Jobs' Influence on Facebook" lol.
 
If there's one thing that Mark Zuckerberg knows it's how to iterate and improve. Don't worry about him becoming more well spoken. I love that despite his nervousness, he still gets up on stage and gives it another go. I know many people who would give up after the bad press and just hire a PR guy to go up there. If you actually watch his talks, sure there's still fumbles and awkward laughter from him, but he's gotten so much better...

Good god... he used to be even WORSE at public speaking??
 
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