At this stage, I've become non-nonplussed that people still use Facebook and it's covered for anything beyond its incredible fraudulence: https://www.revealnews.org/article/...-playing-kids-and-their-parents-out-of-money/
I wish:
- USG would force FB to divest these apps.
- Apple would make iMessage universally available.
... and that everyone switches to a more, let’s say, ethical company?
RE:
I'm NOT sure there is one, at least NOT a public company that would qualify.
AAPL has more than $100B of Debt, ALL accumulated under Cook ... yet, the AAPL Board, in their infinite wisdom, decides to approve a $100B share buy-back six months or so ago, with the repatriated funds.
To me, that is clearly a Ponzi Scheme !
I'm just hoping the U.S. Govt won't have to Bail Out AAPL (& others) when the Economy goes South !
It should be Illegal for ANY public company to buy back ANY shares on the Open Market if they have ANY Debt !
You wish. People are stubborn and hate change.One step closer for Signal to become the global standard. Keep it up Zuckerberg and soon enough NOBODY will be using Whatsapp.
In one of my research groups, for example, everyone uses an iPhone. However, the natural gravitation is towards WhatsApp. Yesterday I tried to send a 48mins voice memo, which I recorded on my XS Max, to my colleagues using iMessage. The send button wouldn’t even move. There was no way to start the message from iMessage and then choose a voice memo. I tried WhatsApp and voila!
It's 2019, and iOS mail still can't do attachments into drafts. It's just laughable.
**SIGNAL** is the app you want to get behind...
It sucks in every way possible, including security. Yes, I've used it, only cause I was forced to for some purpose. If you want to use an "alternative" messaging app, Signal is likely the best.Why not use Telegram?
No, Telegram messages might as well not be encrypted because you can't trust their homemade algo that's been shown to be insecure. And btw, their API puts the secrets in the URL for some reason, which is a no-no and indicates a lack of care on their part.I love telegram. It’s so much better than WhatsApp. Plus when you start a “secret message” it truly is end-to-end encrypted. I’d never trust that statement by Facebook.
At least, according to telegram FAQ it certainly seems end-to-end encrypted...
https://telegram.org/faq/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different
This is true. iMessage only works with e2e encryption because Apple controls their devices so tightly, and it's rather complicated even with that given. They somewhat fudged something up because iMessage has had known glitches like wrong ordering. Whatsapp compromises by making one phone the only endpoint for messages, whereas iMessage must work with multiple devices.Part of the benefit of iMessage is its end to end encryption. For the same sake, I try best not to use SMS when messaging sensitive information, as it's wide open. If Apple makes iMessage universally available, you can bet they will no longer keep it encrypted. Cops/FBI/law cannot read iMessage under normal circumstances. Nothing to hide here, just don't want my stuff everywhere.
Well I have two group chats with the same people deliberately. One is muted, and the other is important stuff only. When I make a new message and start listing people, it properly shows the existing group chats I have, so I don't see the issue. There did used to be a bug where one group chat would randomly split into two for some members of the group.And this is a good reason why iMessage will fail.... come on Apple, release iMessage for Android users and sort out proper grouping so every new conversation doesn't create a new group!
Right? I haven’t used Facebook since 2012.
I am doing the same. But this means I can only message people that have sent me a message first (to which I then can reply). And I have to 'find' the correct message/thread via their profile picture or their phone number when I want to message them. And with all this, FB still knows that I'm in these peoples' address book, but at least I am a dead end for FB. Which still makes a difference in that the number of people I have threads with on WhatsApp is more than an order of magnitude smaller than the number of people I have in my address book.I have to use WhatsApp to communicate with some family members, but I didn’t give it access to my Contacts. So not every WhatsApp user.
I mean BBM on actual Blackberry phones before iPhones became ubiquitous. Before iPhones and Android, everyone I knew had a Blackberry with the exception of older folks like my mom. I think she had a Nokia. Though you've never known anyone to use it, that's what WhatsApp was invented to replace. We tested A LOT of apps on other forums and I think here as well. lol.
I'm not sure how old you are but there was a lot of "from my cold dead hands" talk about giving up their Blackberry phones. And really, it was, at that time, the only phone that allowed you to use a data messaging service with international recipients or get around text message limits. It's really the foundation for all these apps now.
It might do you some good to talk to people outside your bubble
Timeline:
12 months - unified transport between the three, codebase unified - data kept on same servers and end-to-end encryption lowered to lowest denominator between them.
18 months - Instagram and Whatsapp development stops. Suggestions made for people to move to FB Messenger. Instagram users get a import into Facebook for all their Photos.
24 months - Instagram and Whatsapp closed.