Marvel Cinematic Universe Discussion

[maflynn]

Based on what she went through in the movie, her career as a military pilot and of course...becoming an intergalactic warrior, I would not expect her to be warm and fuzzy.

That's not it, I mean look at Chris Evens he was a WW II vet, fought hydra but there was some sort of warmth and genuineness. Don't get me wrong she wasn't bad, but there was something lacking to draw the audience in.

While the critics were mostly positive, the audience not so much - so something was not striking a chord.

 

[Rafterman]

That's not it, I mean look at Chris Evens he was a WW II vet, fought hydra but there was some sort of warmth and genuineness. Don't get me wrong she wasn't bad, but there was something lacking to draw the audience in.

While the critics were mostly positive, the audience not so much - so something was not striking a chord.

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Don't forget the hate campaign that was foisted on Captain Marvel because a certain segment of our population decided it was making women too, I don't know, powerful or something. Woke this, SJW that. A lot of those audience reviews were simply fake - people who never saw the movie.

 

[Huntn]

That's not it, I mean look at Chris Evens he was a WW II vet, fought hydra but there was some sort of warmth and genuineness. Don't get me wrong she wasn't bad, but there was something lacking to draw the audience in.

While the critics were mostly positive, the audience not so much - so something was not striking a chord.

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Sometimes I am puzzled by these scores with the realization that my tastes don’t always align with the masses. All I can do is call them as I see them, and fortunately I don’t expect total agreement.

 

[Fozzybadfeet]

Almost had a chance to watch GOTG3 today...But plans changed.

Hopefully this week.

I did do a re-watch of Quantumania and dealing with the multiverse, I wish they had Easter Eggs of the variant Avengers Kang killed when he destroyed other timelines. Maybe during the scene where Janet connected to his memories and saw what he had done. Idk.

 

[Huntn]

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Ms.Marvel (2022)- In prep for the Marvels (due in Nov) I watched this 6 episodes mini-series, about how a Muslim Pakistani girl (American family) living in Jersey City, more or less obsessed with Captain Marvel, obtains a power. but it seems like an awkward power, from an artifact/Genie relative, (I assume this is a relative, but not sure ).

The story refers back to the separation of Pakistan and India which adds interest to the narrative, where her Grandmother lives, and it’s a pretty easy watch, but I get the feeling some time is spent trying to get the audience acclimated to a American Muslim family (not said critically) and large amount of the time it feels like a show made for 12 year olds.

The thing to know here is that you don’t have to watch the series as it you’d have missed something vital, other than you want to see her back story and to know she has some powers colored blue, just like Capt Marvel, but from a different source, but as we know Infinity Stones have power, that can be borrowed, or there are mysterious powers out there, so any thing goes. 🤗

 

[Huntn]

Thor: Raknorak (2017)- In the realm of all Marvel stories, imo this is one of the best, most creative, a story thanks to the director, that’s blends a significant amount of humor in with dead serious drama and maintains just the right balance with amazing visuals. Great performances all around. And there are a lot of changes, Odin passes, Mjollnir is destroyed, “Ass-berg” is destroyed, Hulk is found, Thor get’s his hair cut by a creepy old guy. It helps to know some history, but this can be enjoyed as a stand alone story. ☺️

 

[Huntn]

That's not it, I mean look at Chris Evens he was a WW II vet, fought hydra but there was some sort of warmth and genuineness. Don't get me wrong she wasn't bad, but there was something lacking to draw the audience in.

While the critics were mostly positive, the audience not so much - so something was not striking a chord.

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It stuck a chord with me! 😊

 

[Huntn]

Kraven The Hunter (2024)- Not awful, not great, good start, uneven, felt kinda flat, critics hated it, not that I put much store in critics vs the audience. No real desire to watch again, which is normally a bad sign. 🙃 Marvel has lost its mojo.

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[maflynn]

Kraven The Hunter (2024)- Not awful, not great

I hadn't seen it, my kids and wife did however. I think your senitment was theirs as well. An ok-ish movie.

One thing that kind of rubs me the wrong way, not with this movie but the industry, and that's making villains understood, they're now more of an anti-hero. Maybe they only do bad things to the bad people or their up bringing is the reason they're so misunderstood.

Kraven falls into this category, but so many other movies where the character in comic books, fairy tales, or just literature seems to get re-written to soften them as not really bad people. Consider Cruella Deville, the Cruella movie staring Emma Stone, wasn't bad, in fact I rather liked the movie, but Disney took what was supposed to be a horrible person and they made her tragic and misunderstood.

 

[Huntn]

I hadn't seen it, my kids and wife did however. I think your senitment was theirs as well. An ok-ish movie.

One thing that kind of rubs me the wrong way, not with this movie but the industry, and that's making villains understood, they're now more of an anti-hero. Maybe they only do bad things to the bad people or their up bringing is the reason they're so misunderstood.

Kraven falls into this category, but so many other movies where the character in comic books, fairy tales, or just literature seems to get re-written to soften them as not really bad people. Consider Cruella Deville, the Cruella movie staring Emma Stone, wasn't bad, in fact I rather liked the movie, but Disney took what was supposed to be a horrible person and they made her tragic and misunderstood.

More than once, they’ve done this, evil queen I seem to remember. 🤔

 

[mscriv]

I hadn't seen it, my kids and wife did however. I think your senitment was theirs as well. An ok-ish movie.

One thing that kind of rubs me the wrong way, not with this movie but the industry, and that's making villains understood, they're now more of an anti-hero. Maybe they only do bad things to the bad people or their up bringing is the reason they're so misunderstood.

Kraven falls into this category, but so many other movies where the character in comic books, fairy tales, or just literature seems to get re-written to soften them as not really bad people. Consider Cruella Deville, the Cruella movie staring Emma Stone, wasn't bad, in fact I rather liked the movie, but Disney took what was supposed to be a horrible person and they made her tragic and misunderstood.

Spot on my friend. No such thing as white hat good guys and black hat bad guys anymore. They are all grey hats and often the difference between hero and villain is razor thin.

 

[Huntn]

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Eternals (2021)- Phase 4. I thought I watched it, which is possible, did not like it which is probable, but I don’t remember the ending so my comment, I may have not finished the first time. 🙃

These guys and gals sent to Earth to mentor and protect humanity, so humans flourish, but lied about the reality of the mission. The gotcha, the Celestial seed (baby Celestial) planted in Earth could eventually consume the Earth and its intelligent life as it is born, becoming a new Celestial. So yeah, when they become aware, they disagree about going along or resisting this.

So after seeing Captain America: Brave New World and this ‘Mass that rose out of the Indian Ocean ’ I was prompted to rewatch. It was ok, but not a favorite.

From a trivia standpoint, my impression that both Ego and Thanos are Celestials, one step above Eternals, but I’m confused about Asgardians, calked ‘Gods’ maybe they were regarded as gods to Earthlings but from what I’ve read and seen, they seem more like the level of Eternals?

And Thanos, besides physical power, he did not seem to display much ‘special’ power other than getting his hands on Infinity Stones, and Captain Marvel, a lowly human, embueed with the power of the Tesseract (Space Stone) was able to subdue him so there seems to be a spectrum of power in these classifications.

Btw, I also posted this in the Movie thread:



Captain America: Brave New World (2025)- Hmm. I have to think about if I like this. I think there’s some acclimation going on in the post Infinity Stone Saga era. The plot is ok, not great.

• The new Widow- as in Black Widow, she’s ok.
• Captain America- I like Sam Wilson as the New Captain America. However I question, he gets stabbed and takes a knife to the shoulder like it’s not much of anything. We know he’s not been enhanced as Falcon because he complains about how he should have taken the serum. But you remember what the original Captain America went through to be enhanced.
• New Falcon- I like him.
• President Ross a one off or the New Hulk? He’s too old to be the New Hulk. Maybe Edward Norton or Liv Tyler. 😉 References are made to the 2008 Incredible Hulk.
• Samuel Sterns- A radio personality as a villain? 😉 I like Tim Blake Nelson but he was a bit boring, too mad and not enough humor as compared to typical roles.
• What’s this mass that rises out of the ocean? Looks like like a head and a hand made of Adamantium. Oh, it’s a Celestial. https://screenrant.com/mcu-celestial-island-treaty-adamantium-origin-explained/ Eternals reference…I did not like and can’t remember if I even finished this. 🤔