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Rbtrucking

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I am on iOS 7 Beta 3 I have been since release day but about 2 days ago I noticed sever battery drain and another thing I found funny was in setting and usage the usage is always the same as the standby time which I definitely do not use the phone that much.

In the passed couple days however I did download a couple new apps so I am thinking its either a beta bug or an app keeping the system awake. Has anyone else experienced anything like this on beta 3? If not, what is a good app to monitor apps? I tried battery doctor, didn't really care for it. Didn't really have the options I was looking for.

Any input is greatly appreciated, thanks!
 

batting1000

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I am on iOS 7 Beta 3 I have been since release day but about 2 days ago I noticed sever battery drain and another thing I found funny was in setting and usage the usage is always the same as the standby time which I definitely do not use the phone that much.

In the passed couple days however I did download a couple new apps so I am thinking its either a beta bug or an app keeping the system awake. Has anyone else experienced anything like this on beta 3? If not, what is a good app to monitor apps? I tried battery doctor, didn't really care for it. Didn't really have the options I was looking for.

Any input is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Delete the apps you downloaded a few days ago. Also, try turning of "Background App Refresh" in Settings > General.
 

Visionblue

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Hey there! Excuse my lack of expertise but I've been having the same problem on 6.1.4 (usage and standby nearly identical with a fast draining battery). Ive tried everything the internet has to offer (restore, batt calibration, hard reset etc). I literally just hung up the phone with apple and the rep said it was almost certainly the battery itself or a hard wear issue. How long have you had the phone? If the beta has been running fine and the phone has suddenly succumb to drainage I doubt it's sw. If you have a developers account maybe call apple care and have them send the diagnostic text?
 

batting1000

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Hey there! Excuse my lack of expertise but I've been having the same problem on 6.1.4 (usage and standby nearly identical with a fast draining battery). Ive tried everything the internet has to offer (restore, batt calibration, hard reset etc). I literally just hung up the phone with apple and the rep said it was almost certainly the battery itself or a hard wear issue. How long have you had the phone? If the beta has been running fine and the phone has suddenly succumb to drainage I doubt it's sw. If you have a developers account maybe call apple care and have them send the diagnostic text?

Something is obviously going on in the background if the usage is like that. The battery doesn't control what's going on in the background.
 

Armen

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I am on iOS 7 Beta 3 I have been since release day but about 2 days ago I noticed sever battery drain and another thing I found funny was in setting and usage the usage is always the same as the standby time which I definitely do not use the phone that much.

In the passed couple days however I did download a couple new apps so I am thinking its either a beta bug or an app keeping the system awake. Has anyone else experienced anything like this on beta 3? If not, what is a good app to monitor apps? I tried battery doctor, didn't really care for it. Didn't really have the options I was looking for.

Any input is greatly appreciated, thanks!

co-workers at work that aren't running iOS 7 noticed the facebook app was draining the heck out of their batteries when they did a search in it at least once.
 

Naor

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My battery drains extremely fast as well... I'm sure it has something to do with beta 3.
 

Rbtrucking

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I tried turning off app refresh, it did nothing. Also yes this is something that just recently started happening out of the blue. I have been running iOS 7 since I got the phone though (only a couple weeks ago). I deleted the apps that were in question, that changed nothing.

It would have been nice if beta 4 was released today so I could see if that fixed the problem. Coming from android though I have run into these problems and in my experience it is almost always some sort of software issue with something keeping the system awake.

Also, no I don't have a developer account.
 

Naor

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I tried turning off app refresh, it did nothing. Also yes this is something that just recently started happening out of the blue. I have been running iOS 7 since I got the phone though (only a couple weeks ago). I deleted the apps that were in question, that changed nothing.

It would have been nice if beta 4 was released today so I could see if that fixed the problem. Coming from android though I have run into these problems and in my experience it is almost always some sort of software issue with something keeping the system awake.

I ran from 60% to 40% in just 10-15 minutes today >< I usually get home with 20% battery left and now my phone dies even when I barely touch it.
 

byeehaaw

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beta's 1 and 3 have drained my battery like none other. beta 2 was perfect and my charge actually lasted a lot longer. Hopefully beta 4 comes out soon wiht a fix. Not sure if its a rogue app or anything but seems just like the OS in general is a lil buggy since i always remove background apps. my iphone also gets really hot once again like beta 1.
 

Rbtrucking

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I ran from 60% to 40% in just 10-15 minutes today >< I usually get home with 20% battery left and now my phone dies even when I barely touch it.

Wow, that's pretty bad! So it probably is a beta thing your saying? Its a real shame beta 4 was delayed, it might have solved all our problems.

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beta's 1 and 3 have drained my battery like none other. beta 2 was perfect and my charge actually lasted a lot longer. Hopefully beta 4 comes out soon wiht a fix. Not sure if its a rogue app or anything but seems just like the OS in general is a lil buggy since i always remove background apps. my iphone also gets really hot once again like beta 1.

Its funny my brother is running beta 3 as well and his battery life is fine, but I know it interacts differently with every phone.
 

iAlphard

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I tried turning off app refresh, it did nothing. Also yes this is something that just recently started happening out of the blue. I have been running iOS 7 since I got the phone though (only a couple weeks ago). I deleted the apps that were in question, that changed nothing.

It would have been nice if beta 4 was released today so I could see if that fixed the problem. Coming from android though I have run into these problems and in my experience it is almost always some sort of software issue with something keeping the system awake.

Also, no I don't have a developer account.

Try these :
1. Delete all your mail accounts.
2. Delete safari and chrome backup on your icloud backup.
3. Delete safari and chrome caches.
4. Reboot your device.
5. Re-add your email and turn back on safari's icloud backup if you want.

I hope it helps.
 

Rbtrucking

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I was just going to mention a thread at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1612579/ for some ideas that might help, but then I realized you are probably aware of it already. ;)

Ya lol that was actually my thread. Thought maybe I would move it over here though since chances are its an iOS 7 Beta bug.

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Try these :
1. Delete all your mail accounts.
2. Delete safari and chrome backup on your icloud backup.
3. Delete safari and chrome caches.
4. Reboot your device.
5. Re-add your email and turn back on safari's icloud backup if you want.

I hope it helps.

'I'll give it a shot, thanks.
 

PNutts

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I'll give it a shot, thanks.

A lot of people report this and besides an app it can also be in a retry loop (for lack of a better term) trying to access and download data. Email, Facebook, etc. Like with a rogue app, terminating the app or airplane mode or turning it off and on will "fix" it until the next time it gets stuck again (if it does).

There are a number of system utility apps you can use to find out which rogue process is driving the CPU (if that is the problem).
 

Rbtrucking

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A lot of people report this and besides an app it can also be in a retry loop (for lack of a better term) trying to access and download data. Email, Facebook, etc. Like with a rogue app, terminating the app or airplane mode or turning it off and on will "fix" it until the next time it gets stuck again (if it does).

There are a number of system utility apps you can use to find out which rogue process is driving the CPU (if that is the problem).

I have tried multiple reboots, and airplane mode multiple times. What are some of those system utility apps? I'd like to give one of those a shot.
 

PNutts

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I have tried multiple reboots, and airplane mode multiple times. What are some of those system utility apps? I'd like to give one of those a shot.

I don't have a favorite and I gotta run, (I'm not the search police) so in the app store do a search for "system utility" or "cpu monitor" and you will get a bunch of hits. The names I remember is System Util Dashboard and System Status Activity Monitor. Lots of free ones and simply find one that shows the individual processes.
 

Afbar1114

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Jun 18, 2012
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Try these :
1. Delete all your mail accounts.
2. Delete safari and chrome backup on your icloud backup.
3. Delete safari and chrome caches.
4. Reboot your device.
5. Re-add your email and turn back on safari's icloud backup if you want.

I hope it helps.

the mail account thing is huge...make sure they are not on cycle where it looks for mail every 5 minutes. i have 3 accounts and one is the only one that gets push since its an important account. the others have on a fetch so when i go in it grabs the mail. also look in Settings>Privacy>Location Services. see what apps are using GPS and turn off any you don't want to use. also look in system services at the bottom and turn off everything but cell network search. unless you want to use them. if you have poor or no service this can also kill your battery really quick. iOS 7 has more control over stuff that uses a lot of data/battery. but i think the iTunes radio is also killing data/battery if your using that.
 

Rbtrucking

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the mail account thing is huge...make sure they are not on cycle where it looks for mail every 5 minutes. i have 3 accounts and one is the only one that gets push since its an important account. the others have on a fetch so when i go in it grabs the mail. also look in Settings>Privacy>Location Services. see what apps are using GPS and turn off any you don't want to use. also look in system services at the bottom and turn off everything but cell network search. unless you want to use them. if you have poor or no service this can also kill your battery really quick. iOS 7 has more control over stuff that uses a lot of data/battery. but i think the iTunes radio is also killing data/battery if your using that.

Wow, thanks I didn't realize I had basically all my apps set to use my location and then everything was on in the system services too! I turned most of it off, except for the stuff I need. I really appreciate the info!
 

iAlphard

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Wow, thanks I didn't realize I had basically all my apps set to use my location and then everything was on in the system services too! I turned most of it off, except for the stuff I need. I really appreciate the info!

Can you now post your usage time screenshot? Is it still the same between the standby and the usage time?
 

ErikGrim

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Rbtrucking

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Can you now post your usage time screenshot? Is it still the same between the standby and the usage time?

Sure can and yes it is still the same after all the changes I made. I also got a system monitoring app and everything seems normal when I am not touching the phone the cpu stays at about 2-5% usage which seems pretty normal to me.

I guess it could be just a beta bug, I just find it weird that it popped up out of the blue like that after almost 2 weeks of pretty good battery life. Is it just me, or does anyone else notice these beta's seem to deteriorate in performance over time? And yes before anyone asks, I do perform regular reboots to keep the system fresh. That's the first thing I try when something gets buggy.
 

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Afbar1114

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Well your using it non stop it looks like. Might be why


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Tyler23

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Sure can and yes it is still the same after all the changes I made. I also got a system monitoring app and everything seems normal when I am not touching the phone the cpu stays at about 2-5% usage which seems pretty normal to me.

I guess it could be just a beta bug, I just find it weird that it popped up out of the blue like that after almost 2 weeks of pretty good battery life. Is it just me, or does anyone else notice these beta's seem to deteriorate in performance over time? And yes before anyone asks, I do perform regular reboots to keep the system fresh. That's the first thing I try when something gets buggy.

87% after 3 hours of usage is pretty good, actually.
 
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