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We have the Swift card in Birmingham - as you say since transport is not regulated as it is in London anywhere else in the UK its not possible to have the same level of integration and contactless. The ability to regulate bus routes is being 'devolved' to the large cities in the next few years so perhaps Apple Pay will be coming to public transport for much more of us soon! I'd love to be able to just scan my watch on the Metro tram and buses around here.

If I could use Apple Pay for local transit services outside of London I, for one, would use it much, much more.
 
However, a 0.5sec delay on the ticket barrier does not matter to an individual in the grand scheme of things.
You may speak for yourself, but it matters to me. Especially if I make multiple journeys per day using busy stations.
Since when is NFC slower than Oyster? Not in my experience.
I found my contactless card to be noticeably slower than Oyster, which is why I said what I said.
But expecting guests to have perfect "tube etiquette" or worrying about a slight stutter when using a non-Oyster card is not a concern to most people and a bit rude imo.
I am not expecting guests to have the perfect "tube etiquette" but it is something I want them to have so, by the same token, those guests should be prepared to withstand some criticism if they hold people up.
If 6 seconds means the difference between making or missing your train the solution is not to chide others, but to get out of bed 30 seconds earlier.
You have your solutions, I have mine and I prefer spending time in bed to standing on a cold platform waiting for that train in the distance.
 
Dude, you've got issues :)
Perhaps but NFC is supposed to provide extra convenience without sacrificing speed of transaction, which it doesn't in my experience. Further, I find it ironic that one can use a contactless card to pay for their journey by tapping it at the gates, but it is not possible to pay with contactless at Oyster top-up terminals.
 
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You may speak for yourself, but it matters to me. Especially if I make multiple journeys per day using busy stations.

I found my contactless card to be noticeably slower than Oyster, which is why I said what I said.

I am not expecting guests to have the perfect "tube etiquette" but it is something I want them to have so, by the same token, those guests should be prepared to withstand some criticism if they hold people up.

You have your solutions, I have mine and I prefer spending time in bed to standing on a cold platform waiting for that train in the distance.

It's curious to me, reading all of the posts you have made in reply to the many people on this forum who find your views anti-social and rude. The irony of it is that you claim to value 0.5 second increments of your time, yet you seem to have plenty of time to aggressively defend your apparent misanthropic attitude. One would be led to wonder whether you're making the most of your free time by submitting these posts while you're relaxing in your warm bed...

Enjoy your saved moments. Say hi to Marley for us. :)
 
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A guide to using Apple Pay on London Underground:

1) get phone ready by having AP open and on the card you want use.
2) whilst in queue for a barrier, wait until you've got around 2 people in front of you, then fingerprint on your iPhone.
3) you then have 60 secs to wave iPhone on top of the yellow NFC reader on the barrier.
(if some problem holds one of the 2 people ahead of you up, you may gave to repeat steps 2+3 again!)

Et voila, barrier opens and you're through.

4) [sometimes] if exiting the tube at a station without barriers, make sure you do the same as points 2+3 above near the exit from the line you're on (they're usually on a wall or similar near station exit), so you're not significantly overcharged a full maximum day fare.

Simple really, when you know. :)

Now enjoy the massive queues and over crowding like the rest of us! ;-P
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BTW, TfL (Transport for London) are supposed to be in the process of designing and introducing an Apple Pay-enabled Apple Wallet iOS Oyster card app, and presumably Android one (for those who want to control their pay-as-you-go spending, and/or season Oyster card users), according to news reports a few months ago. But who knows when that's going to arrive...
 
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