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Mavericks release?

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digitalove

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I was doing a research trying to see how many beta of OS X there are before the final release.
We have already the beta 4 for Mavericks and Apple started to send iBooks for Mac in the App Store.

So we can expect an early release of Mavericks?
How many beta did Lion and Mountain Lion had before the GM?

Seems like OS X requires much less work than iOS this time (obviously because OS X Mavericks implemented only few things compared to the redesigned iOS..) so yeah, my bet is that it will come out before iOS 7.
 
digitalove said:
I was doing a research trying to see how many beta of OS X there are before the final release.
We have already the beta 4 for Mavericks and Apple started to send iBooks for Mac in the App Store.

So we can expect an early release of Mavericks?
How many beta did Lion and Mountain Lion had before the GM?

Seems like OS X requires much less work than iOS this time (obviously because OS X Mavericks implemented only few things compared to the redesigned iOS..) so yeah, my bet is that it will come out before iOS 7.
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Um...earlier than what? How can it be released earlier, if there is no release date for it to be earlier than....:confused:

(Bad English...but you get the point! :p)
 
Shrink said:
Um...earlier than what? How can it be released earlier, if there is no release date for it to be earlier than....:confused:

(Bad English...but you get the point! :p)
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I meant earlier than iOS 7, btw they said "Coming this fall"
 
I think we will see mavericks at, or soon after, the Apple event where they announce the rest of the Mac refreshes. iOS 7 will probably not be far behind, assuming they will announce the iPhone 5S at the same event. But until that event date becomes known, we can all just wait and speculate
 
Serban said:
and it will be free for those who bought or will buy a haswell MAC ?
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In the past free upgrades have been given to those who bought a new Mac (any sort) after the shipping date was announced. So those who have bought already will be paying to upgrade.
 
Serban said:
and it will be free for those who bought or will buy a haswell MAC ?
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Given that we don't have a release on that Mac either, the answer may be yes or no. Typically the only guaranteed way to get the new OS for free would be if you got a Mac after the date the OS is announced.

And we really can't predict any OS being early than another since we don't have a release date on any of the OS.
 
I'm more interested in that it gets released when its stable and no major bugs. I'd rather not see apple rush this out the door just because of some artificial deadline.
 
maflynn said:
I'm more interested in that it gets released when its stable and no major bugs. I'd rather not see apple rush this out the door just because of some artificial deadline.
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Exactly. As much as I am anticipating the release of Mavericks, I would rather wait as long as it takes to produce a stable operating system.

If that extends, then so be it.
 
daxiel22 said:
I don't think so, but the GM version will arrive the same day of the keynote so...
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Says who? GM versions have been announced outside of keynotes so I don't know what you are basing this off of. They can announce it at any time and are not bound to a keynote to do this.
 
daxiel22 said:
I don't think so, but the GM version will arrive the same day of the keynote so...
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What Keynote? There are no conferences at the right time where Apple would be the keynote speaker. There might be a press conference or Apple may just post an announcement as to when Mavericks is shipping.
 
Sky Blue said:
what keynote?
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My question exactly.

daxiel22 said:
IMHO, I think we should see it in the mid-september keynote.

I bet on a WWDC style keynote, focusing in mac as well as mobile devices.
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Again I ask, what conference will Apple have a keynote speaker at? And would it be one that it would be appropriate for Apple to announce Macs at?

I can see Apple doing a press conference if they release enough updates at the same time, but Apple usually only announces press conferences a week in advance so we wouldn't know when the next one is unless it's in th e next week or so.
 
Bear said:
What Keynote?
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Sky Blue said:
what keynote?
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Oh come on, give the guy a break. I agree it's a bit presumptious to mention some arbitrary keynote that has yet to be announced, but I think we can all agree that there WILL in fact be an Apple Keynote sometime in the next 2-3 months (with an extremely high chance that it will be in September). The potential announcements include the new iPhone(s), the new iPad, new iPods, new iTunes, release dates for iOS/OS X, Haswell MBP/iMac/Mac Mini, release date for Mac Pro's, and iWork X. Maybe not all of these will be announced at a keynote, maybe they will be split up into 2 keynotes, but the guy is clearly referencing the big iPhone keynote that will likely take place in Sept.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
Oh come on, give the guy a break. I agree it's a bit presumptious to mention some arbitrary keynote that has yet to be announced,...
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I think you missed the point that a keynote speech happens at a business convention. There are none that I know of where it would be appropriate for someone at Apple to be a keynote speaker nor one where it would make sense for Apple to introduce products during a keynote speech.

Apple would do a press conference if they have enough stuff to announce at once, but it would not be a keynote.
 
Bear said:
I think you missed the point that a keynote speech happens at a business convention. There are none that I know of where it would be appropriate for someone at Apple to be a keynote speaker nor one where it would make sense for Apple to introduce products during a keynote speech.

Apple would do a press conference if they have enough stuff to announce at once, but it would not be a keynote.
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I could be wrong, but I've always interpreted any presentation as a "keynote" in Apple-speak, likely due to Apple's Keynote presentation app. Regardless of terminology, I think arguing either way is a bit pedantic.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
I could be wrong, but I've always interpreted any presentation as a "keynote" in Apple-speak, likely due to Apple's Keynote presentation app. Regardless of terminology, I think arguing either way is a bit pedantic.
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A press conference is not a keynote. A keynote is the first presentation speech at a conference that sets the tone of the (usually several days long) conference. Apple uses the Keynote at WWDC to show products and services that the developers will be learning about to develop for. Apple allows the press to the keynote.

A press conference is just a "show" for reporters only and usually about an announcement of products and/or services (although it could be anything from earnings to expansions to....). Apple will call a press conference to show the fall products and it will only last a couple of hours and once over there are no other events (except maybe a show and tell).
 
Julien said:
A press conference is not a keynote. A keynote is the first presentation speech at a conference that sets the tone of the (usually several days long) conference. Apple uses the Keynote at WWDC to show products and services that the developers will be learning about to develop for. Apple allows the press to the keynote.

A press conference is just a "show" for reporters only and usually about an announcement of products and/or services (although it could be anything from earnings to expansions to....). Apple will call a press conference to show the fall products and it will only last a couple of hours and once over there are no other events (except maybe a show and tell).
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/apples-iphone-5-keynote-event-now-live-for-online-viewing/

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/09/13/watch-apples-full-iphone-5-keynote-presentation-now/

http://gizmodo.com/5942791/watch-apples-iphone-5-keynote-right-now

http://www.cultofmac.com/190498/you-can-now-download-apples-iphone-5-keynote-in-hd-via-itunes/


I suppose no one told Engadget, or numerous other tech blogs. Good try though.
 
cmChimera said:
I suppose no one told Engadget, or numerous other tech blogs. Good try though.
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2 (or more) wrongs don't make a right. Blogs are notorious for mistakes. Manly because of speed and aggregation (or copying). Blog mistakes are often repeated many times because of the latter. How many times are terms like electrocution, could care less and literally misused in blogs?;)

I could not care less about the incorrect usage and was not the poster disputing the use. I was simply pointing out that keynote and press conference (event) are not synonyms.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
I could be wrong, but I've always interpreted any presentation as a "keynote" in Apple-speak, likely due to Apple's Keynote presentation app. Regardless of terminology, I think arguing either way is a bit pedantic.
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Thank you, at least someone is following me.

I've always called "keynote" any Apple presentation.
I'm a Spaniard so I can't argue against the use of the english language.
I regret the misunderstanding.
From now on, I will call it "Apple special event" if that is ok with you. :)


regards
 
Julien said:
2 (or more) wrongs don't make a right. Blogs are notorious for mistakes. Manly because of speed and aggregation (or copying). Blog mistakes are often repeated many times because of the latter. How many times are terms like electrocution, could care less and literally misused in blogs?;)

I could not care less about the incorrect usage and was not the poster disputing the use. I was simply pointing out that keynote and press conference (event) are not synonyms.
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You can call it whatever you like but many people call Apple events keynotes, and everyone knew what the guy meant.
 
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