Maxed Out 15-Inch MacBook Pro Priced at $6,699 for 2.9GHz Chip, 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD

[4jasontv]

Ah. The massive business VR market. Yes, that’s the market Apple should build MBPs for

And yet no one has explained who the MBP is for. Power emailers?

Did I miss where you linked to all this costing less? That’s great these laptops come with a True Tone display. I thought only Apple did that.

Yes, it's true that no one else has a True Tone display. No one else has a retina display either. Can't fault that logic. I am excited to see how professionals who depend on their displays color being accurate enjoy the constantly changing color on their display.

But imagine the promotion and raise you’ll get, not to mention the tail, when you pull out your MSI GT83VR, plug in both adapters (yes, it actually needs two power adapters), open a can of Monster energy drink, strap on your business VR helmet and proceed to give a killer presentation on 8 monitors. Pro as heck. Man, Tim just does not get it.

I don't know what's worse, that you don't see how people might need to do any of those things, or that you assume they do them all at once. Yes, it's true that it needs two power bricks. On the one hand it has TWO 1080 GPU's, and unlike the 2018 MBP it doesn't have performance of an 8 year old mid range card.

I think Tim gets it. That's why he launched them without sending postcards to the world. No keynote. No fanfare. Except for a reference to a CPU that is nearly a year old, the product page doesn't even mention that they are new. Tim has is being very clear. He does not care about the MBP and this fanboi attitude is making it harder for him to kill it.

 

[CBlakeston]

But imagine the promotion and raise you’ll get, not to mention the tail, when you pull out your MSI GT83VR, plug in both adapters (yes, it actually needs two power adapters), open a can of Monster energy drink, strap on your business VR helmet and proceed to give a killer presentation on 8 monitors. Pro as heck. Man, Tim just does not get it.

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Does that really have a track pad all the way over on the right? :/

 

[4jasontv]

Does that really have a track pad all the way over on the right? :/

LOL yes, but that's cause it's also got a full mechanical keyboard. They have said that they expect people will only use for quick gestures. Most people use mouse.

 

[Feenician]

And yet no one has explained who the MBP is for. Power emailers?



Yes, it's true that no one else has a True Tone display. No one else has a retina display either. Can't fault that logic. I am excited to see how professionals who depend on their displays color being accurate enjoy the constantly changing color on their display.



I don't know what's worse, that you don't see how people might need to do any of those things, or that you assume they do them all at once. Yes, it's true that it needs two power bricks. On the one hand it has TWO 1080 GPU's, and unlike the 2018 MBP it doesn't have performance of an 8 year old mid range card.

I think Tim gets it. That's why he launched them without sending postcards to the world. No keynote. No fanfare. Except for a reference to a CPU that is nearly a year old, the product page doesn't even mention that they are new. Tim has is being very clear. He does not care about the MBP and this fanboi attitude is making it harder for him to kill it.

No mention of them being new whatsoever. None.



Also, he’s killing it alright. Killing it with high performance business laptops that it is. (except this GPU won’t allow you frag noobs. Sorry)

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-in-a-laptop-according-to-benchmarks.2127397/

 

[Abazigal]

And yet no one has explained who the MBP is for. Power emailers?

People who want impressive power in a thin and light package that can tether to an ultra-powerful rig when needed.

 

[4jasontv]

No mention of them being new whatsoever. None.

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Also, he’s killing it alright. Killing it with high performance business laptops that it is. (except this GPU won’t allow you frag noobs. Sorry)

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-in-a-laptop-according-to-benchmarks.2127397/

Oh my! How did I miss that tiny orange font that isn't on the product page? Maybe because the main link doesn't even take you through where ever that screenshot was from.

AND for love of Jobs, what is a "high performance business laptop" doing that a macbook isn't? (Besides messing with your screens color while you try work.)

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People who want impressive power in a thin and light package that can tether to an ultra-powerful rig when needed.

Valid, but the problem is that it isn't impressive when it isn't tethered. It's a MacBook on it's own. At $6600 you could get a Macbook and MacPro or an iMac Pro.

 

[CBlakeston]

Everyone getting

No mention of them being new whatsoever. None.

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Also, he’s killing it alright. Killing it with high performance business laptops that it is. (except this GPU won’t allow you frag noobs. Sorry)

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-in-a-laptop-according-to-benchmarks.2127397/

I know one thing I really value at work is the ability to frag noobs. You seem really angry. You do know no one is making you buy it?
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LOL yes, but that's cause it's also got a full mechanical keyboard. They have said that they expect people will only use for quick gestures. Most people use mouse.

Doesn’t that defeat the object of it being a lap top.

 

[bruinsrme]

Well this lack of awareness makes more sense now that I know you're a CS. Here's a piece of advice. Make sure you take some humanities classes when you get to college early, because they actually are important, contrary to what silicon valley culture makes you think, and will help you maybe be empathetic to others, something you clearly need to work on.

Now as for why it is necessary for film makers (I used youtubers as a perfect example) would want (and need) those faster speeds. If they are storing the footage on their computer, as well as rendering a final movie in FC, that speed will make a difference in terms of time. Time for those professionals = money. The faster they can get it off their camera's and start cutting, and rendering movies, the better. Take my friend, a professional who shoots other people's promo ads. his clients will start to demand promo reels faster. He wouldn't be hired for a lot of jobs if he wasn't using a mac (you should hear some of the stories of how eccentric his clients can be) In that case, him having the biggest and best may let him keep clients, in other words, it would make him more money in the long run. So yes, that's a need. Again, it's not worth the price to you. To other's it is. I also don't need a fully maxed out MacBook Pro. But will I pay $2,000 for a new 13 inch MacBook air with retina screen and a 512 SSD and 16 GIGS of RAM if they come out in the fall? You bet I will. Because it is the only piece of computer kit I can see myself needing in the near future. Now, you could make the argument that I could go get a MATEBOOK X PRO for a lower lower, and get everything I need. Except you don't know me, or my work flow, and the fact remains I have software for my business that I need that only runs on Mac 0S. That's worth the $500 I'm paying for the operating system alone.

Friend works at an Apple store.
Woman came in to talk to their business team to purchase 6 maxed our iMac pros.
In the end it saved her company from hiring one head and she projected saving hundreds of hours a month in work flows.

If there is one thing I learned years ago, my needs my vary from yours.

Time is money.

 

[grandM]

What increase? Those are the same prices as for the 2017 models. Only now with much better specs..

As for the USD/EUR difference, mostly sales tax. Also customs, other warranty regulations.. It's not like this is new?

You do realise that comes down to 3,854.88 USD, right? Taxes? They pay very few as they are based in Ireland...
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8.8k $ in Poland

belgian price is € 7.959,00 or 9.300,09 dollar

 

[Sackofnickels]

I wonder if being a "professional" justifies the price. Ridiculous.
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Friend works at an Apple store.
Woman came in to talk to their business team to purchase 6 maxed our iMac pros.
In the end it saved her company from hiring one head and she projected saving hundreds of hours a month in work flows.

If there is one thing I learned years ago, my needs my vary from yours.

Time is money.

Oh Please. So there no PC's that can handle the work flow for less than $7k a pop? Thats not what I am seeing on my end.

 

[Brien]

Crazy. Ten years ago a fully loaded 15” was ~$3k.

 

[Abazigal]

Valid, but the problem is that it isn't impressive when it isn't tethered. It's a MacBook on it's own. At $6600 you could get a Macbook and MacPro or an iMac Pro.

Nobody is asking you to upgrade to the 4tb SSD option if you don't want to. An iMac pro with the same storage option is also going to cost way more than $6600. Stick with the basic 512gb model, and rely on external SSD drives for your video editing. You still come out ahead.

The way I see it, the MacBook Pro is a textbook case of cost-benefit analysis, with Apple having reimagined virtually every aspect of it, with some decisions being received better than others.

I still feel that trading in a set of fading function keys for a dynamic Touch Bar is the right move going forward, as is dropping the glowing Apple logo for a wide-colour gamut display. People have suggested in other threads that this is nothing more than a face-saving move. Perhaps that is so, but are conviction and stubbornness not two sides of the same coin? Both involve sticking with what you believe in despite overwhelming resistance and criticism, and time will tell as to whether Apple bet on the right horse or not.

Dropping a few legacy ports to help spur thunderbolt 3 adoption is the classic example of short-term pain for long-term gain. And personally, I am generally quite supportive of any effort by Apple to make their products thinner and lighter, even if it did result in an otherwise smaller battery.

I realise I am not what anyone would consider a professional user in the conventional sense (as many here take glee in pointing out), and maybe that's precisely the point. Professional users don't form the bulk of Apple's user base anymore, and so they no longer get to dictate what Apple products ought to have (and not to have).

In a sense, this MacBook Pro feels so very quintessentially Apple. Their products are often designed with a very specific end goal in mind. If that so happens to be in line with how you envision yourself using said product (or if you are willing to adjust your workflow), then the experience should be pretty magical. Go against the grain, and it's like jogging through quicksand. You will die a slow and painful death.

This, to me, is what consumers are paying for - Apple's vision of the future of computing, and not just the base cost of the parts.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Oh Please. So there no PC's that can handle the work flow for less than $7k a pop? Thats not what I am seeing on my end.

Don’t jump to conclusions, maybe their workflow uses Mac-only apps.

 

[BenTrovato]

Crazy prices. On the other hand, people keep paying so maybe Apple isn’t so crazy. Just happy to own the stock as people keep ordering these overpriced babies!

 

[tw1ll]

Last time I checked I was considered a pro. I put together campaign videos for huge international brands. I do it on a ‘best’ spec 2016 touchbar MBP. Please don’t tell me what I do or do not need to do my job.

Good for you - it meets your needs, can't argue with that, but in case it has escaped your attention there re many other PROFESSIONALS who undertake compute intensive tasks for which Apple is not the most economic choice.

 

[macintoshmac]

Is it me or a hueiwei matebook x pro looks better?

I mean almost bezeless screen, TOUCH screen....

...washed out colours.

I like thinner bezels, but no, alongside, while the Huawei looks good, the MBP still rocks a mature, ripe look.

 

[pantherfalcon2332]

im just glad that Apple has finally delivered on 32GB RAM and more storage; even if it costs an arm and a leg (and more)

 

[macintoshmac]

Just bought mine. $4200 shipped to California. Of course I sold my 27” iMac for $1895 on eBay. Helps cover some of the cost. Love Apple resale baby!

Did you need the portable more than the iMac? Wouldn't the larger screen space have offered better productivity? What do you use the computer for?

I am planning to either get myself a monitor or an iMac 27 alongside my 13" MBP. I am a content writer and web designer.

 

[ThatGuyInLa]

Did you need the portable more than the iMac? Wouldn't the larger screen space have offered better productivity? What do you use the computer for?

I am planning to either get myself a monitor or an iMac 27 alongside my 13" MBP. I am a content writer and web designer.

I got the iMac for it's huge 5k screen. Then saw, to my dismay, that Apple wasn't supporting much of any playback to take advantage of the huge screen. Over the last year I realized having portable power was something I needed more than "4k" or "5k" dreams. Which, in the end, went virtually unsupported anyway.

 

[nihil0]

you‘ve obviously never bought film equipment. not sure, if there is even an 8k phantom, but of course you‘ll also need your cables, dongles, batteries, storage, little metal parts that sell for $100 a pop, cases for hundreds of dollars, filters, matte box, baseplate, tripod ... etc. for that. let alone lenses which can cost you easily as much. and then you need something to film. the camera is usually one of your lesser worries, financially speaking. but you won‘t buy that camera anyway, you rent it with an operator for thousands a day.
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actually, it‘s €2744 if you buy it without VAT. gonna compare apples to apples. that still translates to usd 3202, though.

Actually, if you follow this site regularly, there are many sales throghout the year when US citizens are able to buy them tax free. In EU you can only do that if you are company who pays VAT.
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What increase? Those are the same prices as for the 2017 models. Only now with much better specs..

As for the USD/EUR difference, mostly sales tax. Also customs, other warranty regulations.. It's not like this is new?

Guess you are right. But still - US citizens are able to buy it without tax throughout various sales (adorama, b&h) and so on. EU citizens only when are company who does pay VAT to state. Anyway, I remember some years ago prices were 1:1 (eg. 2899 USD and 2899 EUR +/- 100 EUR but not that much).

 

[bruinsrme]

I wonder if being a "professional" justifies the price. Ridiculous.
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Oh Please. So there no PC's that can handle the work flow for less than $7k a pop? Thats not what I am seeing on my end.

I priced a similarly configured dell and MBP with a 2TB drive, dell doesn’t offer a 4TB. With dell “discounting” their offering there was about a $550 difference.
To me, the MBP is worth that premium.
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im just glad that Apple has finally delivered on 32GB RAM and more storage; even if it costs an arm and a leg (and more)

Price out a dell with a similar configuration.
Look at the “price” before the apply the discount.
I would rather have the MBP.

 

[Sackofnickels]

Don’t jump to conclusions, maybe their workflow uses Mac-only apps.

Was referring to productivity and work flow. No conclusions drawn. Maybe they used PC software but thought using a Mac and FCP would be more productive and speed up the work flow.

In my experience, thats just not the case. Especially if cost is an issue. We could speculate endlessly.

Besides 2tb of 4tb or internal storage should not really be an issue for a professional. I wouldn't pay the extra premium for it. I don't know anyone who uses the internal storage of their editing machine to store all their footage. It's all done on external drives.

 

[MacBH928]

The keyboard problem is definitely an issue I can understand - although my keyboard has not been an issue at all, there are way too many cases and that is a valid concern. The port thing - Apple is clearly trying to force a new era here. I personally prefer the direction they're going in. Is it premature? Maybe. There are ways to make it work. Just like with the removal of the headphone jack in the iPhone - I was initially very opposed to it, but once I switched to the 7 I have not looked back. I guess for Apple Pro doesn't mean multiple ports, it means performance.

there should be a transitional phase. USB-A is STILL the main type of port being used for everything. This is like offering HDMI only TVs in the year 2001.

 

[RandomDSdevel]

Crazy. Ten years ago a fully loaded 15” was ~$3k.

Exactly! What about those of us who are currently not employed in any of the sorts of jobs that would allow us to afford the new prices as things presently stand, but would like to be within range of time covered by the extended lifespan of their computer — eh, Apple? Additionally, people like their computers to last, thank you very much! Whether prices come down in a reasonable amount of time or not, user component upgradeability absolutely needs to make a return in at least the Pro tier's members of Apple's laptop lineup, as getting stuck being forced to max out your configuration just to remain relevant into the foreseeable future has been rendered unfeasible by this anti-consumer madness. And, gah/egads, nobody should have to get even a single accessory to use anything like any of the ports and I/O options that have ever been in common use even within/over the past ten years (at least when using now as a point of comparison,) but one has to grudgingly admit that said ship sailed off into the sunset a long time ago, regrettably enough.

 

[brentsg]

If I was making money with my machines, I wouldn't buy one that could still have potential keyboard issues and may not have the internals that I need.

Tit for tat, man. I know the target audience.

I know that professionals who earn their money with these or other maxed out computers can pay them off no problem, were that me, I'd look at many options to get the job done.

You are moving the goal posts. First it was the price. Now it's the keyboard and apparently the components used.

We get it, you don't want one.