Well, there's the (old) 14" MBP with M1 Pro and 16GB/1TB for $1,689.00 at Apples refurb store.A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.
Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.
unless you live in/visit one of the 5 states (Delaware, Alaska, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon) with no sales taxPlus tax.
M2 Max actually lost features with the encoders/decoders. I’m not happy about it as that is what really helps my workflow.The 14” actually gets the same battery life as the M1 and M2 MBA of 18 hrs while the 16” gets 22 hrs this is progress and you get a lot more features and power for that par battery life and performance.
I am on the fence to either upgrade my M1 MBA or keep it as the last of its design and get a M2 MBP.
Agreed. I don’t like the out of touch comments. Can’t we just end this whole pricing conversation? Prices are up everywhere. My medication went from $36 to $50. Food went up across the board you should see my grocery receipt compared to last year! My bills went up. Heck the NVIDIA GPUs are absurdly high right now. What EVERYONE on this forum wants apparently is 4090 GPUs in macs.They charge what enough people will pay (which doesn't necessarily include you or me) to maximize their profits, just like any other company worth their salt. They're certainly not "out to lunch." Companies that are out to lunch aren't worth what Apple is worth. They fail.
Are there still any super easy to upgrade PC Laptops anymore. Long ago they had panels, and I could do RAM/SSD in five minutes. Now you gave to take the whole bottom off or worse, if you can even do it yourself at all anymore.Any big PC maker will gouge you for BTO options, but with user-upgradeable systems that's less of an issue.
Upgrading SSD - even fast PCIE sticks - on Windows machines is usually a lot cheaper since M.2 slots are common, even on laptops. RAM is slightly more slippery - LPDDR RAM is never user-upgradeable and the Apple Silicon method of building the RAM into the CPU package promises performance advantages - but I'm sure Apple are still charging a huge mark-up over any possible Bill of Materials difference.
...but yeah, these "maxed out" prices is usually distorted by the insanely large cost of an insanely large SSD that only a niche of customers are actually going to need, and the price of a more indicative spec would be more useful... The real problem is when Apple "low balls" the base spec (there's no justification other than "we can get away with it" for 8GB RAM or 256GB SSDs in anything other than the cheapest MacBook Air).
Yea I would definitely be picking up at the Dover DE store if I could afford onePlus tax.
That actually seems better than I remember for maxxing. Just wish the could bring down the lower end. Put lower specs in a 16". Screen size shouldn't be behind insane specs/pricingI never know how to take articles like this.
Is the suggestion that $6500 is a lot? It's a max spec.
In my perfect world, my options for max spec would be nearly infinite, anticipating a nearly infinite pricetag to match.
How did you determine that was a "reasonable price?" Because it's what you would be willing to pay? I think the price they are asking is reasonable if people will pay it. Reasonable is a relative term.A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.
Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.
Maybe clarification is required if listing two encoders/decoders are built-in the M2 Pro/Max. Maybe it’s some change in language or it won’t matter even if there was not two.M2 Max actually lost features with the encoders/decoders. I’m not happy about it as that is what really helps my workflow.
The purpose of all articles here is to engage you. Mission accomplished.I never know how to take articles like this.
The price creep has been happening year over year. It has happened to tech companies in the past that eventually folded (Atari, Commodore?). Even apple almost fell victim to it till Jobs saved them. The greed and lack of innovating did in nearly every tech company back in the 80's, it is why the intel PC market took over in the 90's. No single company ran anything.. You bought components from vendors that competed with each other on price. Companies innovated to compete. Apple moving to their own processor is now back to dealing with a fine line (just like the PowerPC days). They are again less compatible with industry and less customizable. They now need to make it worth developers time to port apps to their processor. They need to be extremely innovative and they need to stay price competitive. They need to be ahead and consistently prove they are a value for the premium they charge. This is a dangerous territory. I surely thought the cost to purchase hardware would have dropped, not gone up. Especially since they no longer innovate new software ideas or have any PC cultural strategy. It's getting to be a hard sell for apple hardware now. The generational culture impulse buyers that grew up only knowing apple seem to be their current market. if it works for them, that's cool. but in this tight economy.. I dunno. Apple wants to make Macs and MacBooks disposable like their phones. That's their new business moto. Fight right to repair. Solder it, then SoC it. Lock out anything 3rd party. Refuse easy repairs. Force new purchases by keeping your icloud data services locked into the hardware.They charge what enough people will pay (which doesn't necessarily include you or me) to maximize their profits, just like any other company worth their salt. They're certainly not "out to lunch." Companies that are out to lunch aren't worth what Apple is worth. They fail.
Apple has a standard mark up around 30-40%And probably $1,000 to make...if that.
Markup of 650% not bad, especially since there are always buyers no matter what silly steps Apple takes.
Someone will support it.
Considering the original Mac was $2500 in 1984 (>$7000 in 2022 dollars), it looks like Apple has made significant strides in affordability. Their top of the line MacBook Pro costs less than the original Mac.A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.
Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.
$499 for the Mac Mini M2 is a steal. I don't think there's a better computer at the price point.Well, it nows give you more, RAM has never been cheap with Apple, the fact that you can now get an M2 Mac for $499 (edu) is the real price-related news to me, not how high you can possibly go with every possible upgrade.
And an IBM PC/AT was $4000 in 1984, so it looks like the rest of the industry has made even more significant strides in affordability. Consumers are cross-shopping against today's marketplace, not against the state of the industry as it was nearly 40 years ago. Compared to the rest of the industry, Apple's pricing is objectively very high across their model lineup.Considering the original Mac was $2500 in 1984 (>$7000 in 2022 dollars), it looks like Apple has made significant strides in affordability. Their top of the line MacBook Pro costs less than the original Mac.
I wish. It's 800+ miles to Montana from New Mexico...hmm that might pay off.unless you live in/visit one of the 5 states (Delaware, Alaska, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon) with no sales tax