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It's silly, but I'm hoping for a third color choice in the MBP lineup someday. My mom's MBA in "Starlight," is downright gorgeous and very different from the silver currently available for MBPs. I've used "Rose/Gold" MBAs for personal work for a long time as well and really enjoyed having something that isn't just another grey or silver laptop. If wishes were ponies, I suppose we'd all have a farm...
 
A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.

Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.
According to the inflation calculator $6,500 today corresponds to about $2,300 in 1984.

In 1984 the original Macintosh cost about $2,500 and offered 128kB of memory and mass storage was a single floppy disk holding 400kB.

Today’s maxed out Macintosh has 96GB of memory (about 750,000x more memory) and 8TB of storage ( about 20,000,000x more storage) and costs slightly less (inflation adjusted price).

The current Apple prices are totally in line with historical pricing while providing mind blowing performance improvements.
 
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How much was the maxed out Intel 16" with the 5600M, that was testing 7K wasn't it?
 
So glad I got my M1 Pro 16" with 32GB in November. The M1 was "reasonably" priced at 33995 SEK ($3370) instead of the new M2 model priced at 40995 SEK ($3940) including taxes and VAT.
 
How did you determine that was a "reasonable price?" Because it's what you would be willing to pay? I think the price they are asking is reasonable if people will pay it. Reasonable is a relative term.
I would consider that price or even better a 16/256 or 512 for even less
 
I wish. It's 800+ miles to Montana from New Mexico...hmm that might pay off. :)
Look into Payboo from BH Photo - they discount the tax.

I abuse the hell out of that option whenever I can...especially since I can build to order through them.

For me, that's 7% off...that's almost a free M2 Mac mini to go with a maxed out MacBook Pro.😜
 


Apple today announced refreshed 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with M2 Pro and M2 Max Apple silicon chips, and when configured with the highest specs, the new machines come with higher price tags than the machines they replace.

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The 14-inch model starts at $1,999, while the 16-inch model starts at $2,499. Both starting prices remain unchanged from the previous-generation models, but there are more significant upgrades available depending on the model, and that's where the differences emerge.

A fully maxed 16-inch MacBook Pro now tops out at $6,499, featuring a top-of-the-line ‌M2 Max‌ chip with 12-core CPU and 32-core GPU, 96GB unified memory, and 8TB SSD. The previous-generation M1 Max model topped out at $6,099 but only came with a maximum 64GB of unified memory.

The latest 14-inch MacBook Pro models can be customized with the same specs as the new 16-inch machine. A 14-inch MacBook Pro with ‌M2 Max‌, 96GB of unified memory, and 8TB SSD is priced at $6,299, up from $5,899.

Pre-orders for the new MacBook Pro models started today and the first machines will be arriving to customers next Tuesday. Fully customized and upgraded MacBook Pro models won't ship out until February.

Article Link: Maxed Out High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro Now Costs $6,499
My maxed out 2019 16” MBP cost >$8K IIRC so this is good news
 
Look into Payboo from BH Photo - they discount the tax.

I abuse the hell out of that option whenever I can...especially since I can build to order through them.

For me, that's 7% off...that's almost a free M2 Mac mini to go with a maxed out MacBook Pro.😜
Haha. Payboo, hmmm. The Apple card folks, for some unexplained reason, want to give me a card at $2500 limit/23% interest. Does anyone remember Household Finance in the 80's? :) I'll keep my other cards with $20,000+/14%.
Thanks!
 


the new machines come with higher price tags than the machines they replace.
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A fully maxed 16-inch MacBook Pro now tops out at $6,499, featuring a top-of-the-line ‌M2 Max‌ chip with 12-core CPU and 32-core GPU, 96GB unified memory, and 8TB SSD. The previous-generation M1 Max model topped out at $6,099 but only came with a maximum 64GB of unified memory.

The latest 14-inch MacBook Pro models can be customized with the same specs as the new 16-inch machine. A 14-inch MacBook Pro with ‌M2 Max‌, 96GB of unified memory, and 8TB SSD is priced at $6,299, up from $5,899.

I'm sorry, but I can't handle the level of click bait in this title and article. These units are priced the same. The fully maxed out M2 units come in $400 more expensive than the maxed out M1 units, which is exactly the difference in price between 96GB and 64GB of RAM.

This is a clear attempt at manufacturing outrage and is completely misleading. They are not more expensive than the machines they replace, they are priced the same as the machines they replace and provide significantly better specs than those machines all through the course of a year with historically high inflation.
 
And an IBM PC/AT was $4000 in 1984, so it looks like the rest of the industry has made even more significant strides in affordability. Consumers are cross-shopping against today's marketplace, not against the state of the industry as it was nearly 40 years ago. Compared to the rest of the industry, Apple's pricing is objectively very high across their model lineup.

As long as consumers and businesses are paying the prices, though, you can't really fault Apple for charging what the market will bear, especially for a maxed-out top of the line configuration. A maxed-out 16" MacBook Pro is the fastest, most powerful macOS laptop that money can buy. The people who need that configuration are apparently willing to pay the cost of entry for it.
I mostly agree but we have to look at comparable quality machines. The Lenovos and Dells with similar quality of components and builds are often in the price range of Apple computers. Sometimes you can buy the comparables for significant discounts but this isn’t necessarily true for bulk orders. Quality costs. We know Apple has high margins. This has been their approach for years. It has helped them be one of the most valuable companies in the world.
 
A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.

Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.
A comparably equipped Dell XPS 15 (12th gen i7, 16 GB, 1 TB, midrange graphics, 3.5k screen) is $2199 USD. Upgrade it to the i9-12900HK version which is closer to the M2 Pro and Max's leaked Geekbench numbers and you're talking $2749 USD. The only advantage over the 14" MBP is a slightly larger screen.
 
A reasonable price for the 14 Pro with 16gb/1tb would be $1499. They want $2199.

Apple has great machines, but is out to lunch with their prices.

My guess is Apple is pricing them to be competitive with equivalent windows laptops. It’s the old “price vs value” paradigm all over again. Expensive, yes, but they pay for themselves many times over in the form of greater productivity and fewer problems overall.
 
Is that bad in comparison to the 1990 Macintosh Portable and the 1998 Wall Street series? I'm thinking that you get much more machine for less money now.
 
Have they fixed running dual screens through one USB-C yet..... I can't believe I need Displaylink on the M1 Max in this day and age
 
To be exact, the Intel was more expensive. Intel was $8,375 CAN and today the max spec with 96GB RAM and inflation kicking in, is only $8,250! That is amazing considering the increase in RAM you are getting.
can you remember what it was in USD? I think it was like $6,699 with the 5600M, so $200 more than the M2 now costs 2-3 years ago!
 
A comparably equipped Dell XPS 15 (12th gen i7, 16 GB, 1 TB, midrange graphics, 3.5k screen) is $2199 USD. Upgrade it to the i9-12900HK version which is closer to the M2 Pro and Max's leaked Geekbench numbers and you're talking $2749 USD. The only advantage over the 14" MBP is a slightly larger screen.
And that's negated when you have to remember it runs Windows instead of MacOS.
 
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