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Hey guys, I know this question is being asked here frequently but I want to ask for my use case. Would you recommend to wait for the 15 inch M3 instead of buying the 15 inch M2 now? My use case:

  • Normal office work: typically have 10-15 tabs open at once in the browser
  • I design user interface with Figma
  • I do basic web-development stuff with VS Code, few Safari and Chrome windows open at the same time, nothing too intensive
  • In the background I usually have stuff running like Slack, Trello, Mail

I don’t need the computer urgently but my MBP 13 inch 2019 is starting to show it’s age. It spins fans quite often and runs pretty warm. Also I want bigger screen.

But please don’t suggest MBP as I’m not interested in those :)

Thanks.
 
I don’t need the computer urgently but my MBP 13 inch 2019 is starting to show it’s age.
Since you are not in a hurry, you may wait for the M3 version, most probably coming out in H1 2024 (Spring refresh, or WWDC).
 
In my opinion, there is no need to wait on making a purchase. Forum members telling you to wait are giving you bad advice and telling you something tech chasers do. No matter when we buy tech, a new model is already being developed and getting ready for release. As such, having the latest tech is a misnomer and amounts to nothing more than trying to grab hold of passing clouds.
 
M3 products wont be the dramatic change some users are hoping for. It will be another incremental improvement over M2 probably less than 20%. Power consumption will be reduced yes, but not to any super dramatic effect overall as we are already at the point where the Display, WiFi, Bluetooth etc are now the main power consumers for all but the most intense loads.
 
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Not needed but nice to have.

M3 seems to offer the same core count as M2. But M3 Pro might be higher than M2 Pro.

With your use case, you might consider getting a Pro chip to run dual monitors.
 
M3 products wont be the dramatic change some users are hoping for. It will be another incremental improvement over M2 probably less than 20%. Power consumption will be reduced yes, but not to any super dramatic effect overall as we are already at the point where the Display, WiFi, Bluetooth etc are now the main power consumers for all but the most intense loads.
Yep, it's being mega hyped but it'll be a disappointment for those who expect it be mind altering. M3 will probably have 1-2 more hours of battery life, 10-15% increase in benchmark scores, still no 2 external displays.
 
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Would you recommend to wait for the 15 inch M3 instead of buying the 15 inch M2 now?

No. Your use case is too light. M2 should already be kind of overkill for the use and more money should be invested toward RAM since you're wanting more browser tabs.

For an idea, my 15" M2 Air has been...

1. Always running a 3D modeling app in the background
2. Always with at least 30 tabs in Safari and 3-4 in Chrome while I do my dev work
3. Running at least 4-5 Docker containers for various different things in the background
4. I basically just don't ever close VS Code, Pixelmator, Capture One Pro or such apps anymore

And it still lasts longer than 10 hours while doing all of that.
 
Buy the M2 MBA and max out the RAM to 24 GB.

Waiting for M3 would not make sense. MBAs are the lower end, so they do not even use all the performance already available from M2 let alone need M3.
 
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Hey guys, I know this question is being asked here frequently but I want to ask for my use case. Would you recommend to wait for the 15 inch M3 instead of buying the 15 inch M2 now? My use case:

  • Normal office work: typically have 10-15 tabs open at once in the browser
  • I design user interface with Figma
  • I do basic web-development stuff with VS Code, few Safari and Chrome windows open at the same time, nothing too intensive
  • In the background I usually have stuff running like Slack, Trello, Mail

I don’t need the computer urgently but my MBP 13 inch 2019 is starting to show it’s age. It spins fans quite often and runs pretty warm. Also I want bigger screen.

But please don’t suggest MBP as I’m not interested in those :)

Thanks.
As a standard, if you can wait, you’ll always get a better machine for the money in the long run. However, in your case, a M2 will last you a solid 5 years for sure.

The only reason to wait is that, as stated, you’ll always get a better machine, and the M2 Air 13” is 2022. Again, for your needs, an M2 is just fine.
 
No. Your use case is too light. M2 should already be kind of overkill for the use and more money should be invested toward RAM since you're wanting more browser tabs.

For an idea, my 15" M2 Air has been...

1. Always running a 3D modeling app in the background
2. Always with at least 30 tabs in Safari and 3-4 in Chrome while I do my dev work
3. Running at least 4-5 Docker containers for various different things in the background
4. I basically just don't ever close VS Code, Pixelmator, Capture One Pro or such apps anymore

And it still lasts longer than 10 hours while doing all of that.
Nice :) So how much RAM do you have? I was thinking 16 GB should be enough for me.
 
Buy the M2 MBA and max out the RAM to 24 GB.

Waiting for M3 would not make sense. MBAs are the lower end, so they do not even use all the performance already available from M2 let alone need M3.
I was thinking 16 GB. 24 might be a bit overkill for my use case, I think. I mean I have 8 GB on my current Intel MBP. So I would imagine that upgrade to 16 GB would be enough considering it’s also M-machine.
 
I have the MBA 15 M2 (of course) and do roughly the same things that you do. Except Figma, which I don't know.
The M2 is more than sufficient for this, and makes me feel like I could put even more load on it without a problem.
 
I was thinking 16 GB. 24 might be a bit overkill for my use case, I think. I mean I have 8 GB on my current Intel MBP. So I would imagine that upgrade to 16 GB would be enough considering it’s also M-machine.
OS and apps always increase RAM demands over time. Always. The 24 GB is to optimize operation over the life cycle of the box (not simply today) and help the lower end MBA still be a smoothly operating powerhouse for a long life cycle. I put 4x that much in my M2 MBP even though today 64 GB is totally fine.
 
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OP, if you have a computer now that is doing the job, you don't need to replace it now. If fans seem louder now than in the past, consider removing the screws on the bottom (not difficult) and getting the (likely) accumulated dust out of there, particularly the fans. Lots of computer cleaning videos on YouTube will show you how.

Bigger screen could be realized by buying a nice external and attaching your Mac to it. That does not necessarily have to be the relatively pricey ASD though it could be. When you need a bigger screen, use it like a desktop with a relatively gigantic screen. 15"- while bigger- won't really feel that much more spacious then 13". But 27" or bigger will definitely be noticeable. I picked up a 5K2K ultra wide 40" for my desktop screen and could never go back to 27" near "square" like the one in ASD. 16" MBpro screen feels positively tiny when I have to switch to it on the road. You might opt to put the not-needed-right-now Air budget towards a much more expansive screen when needed.

Your needs are NOT CPU/SOC demanding, so that 2019 is plenty for them. Use it until the wheels fall off or perhaps until it no longer gets security updates, which will probably be about 2026 or so. When you are forced to replace- be that planned obsolescence or just an outright conk- buy your replacement then. Be sure you have a backup regularly running (like the easy Time Machine option) so that you can easily recover from a conk scenario.

And while this very Apple-centric crowd is recommending only Apple (surprise, surprise), your demands are such that you could replace with a PC and either spend much less than buying Mac or buy much more power + RAM + storage for the Mac replacement money. PC has much competition for laptops, RAM, SSD, etc so one can get much more for their money by leaping over the wall. Not all PC vendors take nearly half of what we pay as profit. Buy a PC and nearly all of your money is actually buying the PC itself.

Contrary to popular spin, PCs and Windows 11 are just fine, do NOT require a nuclear reactor for power, will not cause 3rd degree burns on the lap and do not sound like a 747 jet engine in use. The one you have now is basically a PC that happens to run macOS. Does it require any of that nonsense people sling around?

That shared, if you are married to Mac or bust, by the time you actually need to replace the one you have, consider hitting the refurb store and buying what will probably be the M4 or M5 MBair at the time. Apple refurb is as good as new and again, your demands don't have anything that requires "latest & greatest" SOC inside. If you've purchased some bigger screen desktop monitor back in 2023 for when you need a bigger screen, it should easily switch to being usable on the new one too when that time comes.

If you must have a new computer now, I suggest hopping into the Refurb store for fairly meaningful discounts. That will let you immediately save 10%-15% vs. Apple new pricing.
 
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I think you should just wait for the M3. It sounds like you're not a in a hurry and the M3 is supposed to be a significant bump with the drop to the 3 nm chip. Just deal with your computer now and enjoy the M3 upgrade when the time comes.
 
Nice :) So how much RAM do you have? I was thinking 16 GB should be enough for me.

I have 24. I have no hope for M3.

iPhone 15 Pro today should have already given us a glimpse into what M3 is capable of. "World's first" 3nm chip is... "up to 10%" faster at single-thread performance, and "up to 20%" faster in GPU, with basically the same battery life.

That translates to a very mediocre upgrade in my books. Maybe Apple will surprise us by H1 2024, but I honestly don't think we can expect massive performance or efficiency gains anymore.
 
I need something new before March 15th 2024 - M2 Air (8‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine with 24GB RAM and 1TB SSD) or if M3 Air launches before March 1st 2024 ?
 
I need something new before March 15th 2024 - M2 Air (8‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine with 24GB RAM and 1TB SSD) or if M3 Air launches before March 1st 2024 ?
There are lots of hopes and dreams about the M3 release schedule but as of today nobody KNOWS. It appears you have a firm deadline but not an immediate desperate need.

I believe your best strategy for now is to just sit and wait.
 
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