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Went and looked at the Air today. The screen is a let down.

Also played with a Windows 10 Lenovo 2 in 1 pretty coold looking device. About $250 cheaper as well.
 
I've been working on a Windows laptop for a couple of months now, and I just do not enjoy using Windows at all. Everything from the constant updates, random crashes, and problems I've had with this model of laptop (as well as a few others I've used in the past) had me itching to go back to a Mac. I realize that MacOS is by no means perfect these days, but it works a lot better with my lifestyle.
 
All this is true.
When I played with the air I tried to replicate excell with numbers.
Seemed easier but there was stuff I could not figure out.
In excell you have a set of numbers give you a sum (=) could not figure out how to have certain calculations done in numbers.

Guess you could download excel on the Mac too.
If apple had better prices it would be a no brainer.
 
Good enough for me. The question is if it is usable by itself independent of other laptops.

But, Windows.
Bingo. I’m thankful that i’m not a slave to specs. The macbook Air screens are quite adequate and better than most Windows-based notebooks. Those of us who have that perspective enjoy perhaps the best notebooks produced. But i understand that not many share this opinion, and that’s ok.

i already have a few inexpensive Windows 10 systems and i’m determined that if i have to leave macOS, it will be to go to Linux.
 
Bingo. I’m thankful that i’m not a slave to specs. The macbook Air screens are quite adequate and better than most Windows-based notebooks. Those of us who have that perspective enjoy perhaps the best notebooks produced. But i understand that not many share this opinion, and that’s ok.

i already have a few inexpensive Windows 10 systems and i’m determined that if i have to leave macOS, it will be to go to Linux.
Myself, I think that the screen being the best is like doing 0-60 in 3 secs in a Porsche but takes 15 secs in a Camry. The latter is okay as we're after the sum of all the parts as opposed to one single spec, like you say. I guess some folks are just not sure so need justification to sway them one way or another. I know of few people who have used a MBA for any length of time who don't "get it" and understand the immense satisfaction from using this machine unhindered by Windows.

I came to Mac OS from Linux tweaking and tweaking some more and then some. It always felt you were always tweaking stuff but I also did my stint on Windows. I don't like to self-harm so I don't do Windows except for a spare Mini I have to keep an eye on that platform. But I wouldn't use it for long stints as it eventually causes depression in me.
 
Lol how come?
What issues were you facing?
I got MS Office for Mac for a few reasons.
  • Use Office on work PCs daily - mostly Excel
  • Can't send Mac documents to PC users unless converting them first.
  • Office documents frequently don't open properly in the Mac apps. (macros and special formatting)
  • Spend too much time trying to figure out how to do something in Mac app that I know how to do in MS.
 
I got MS Office for Mac for a few reasons.
  • Use Office on work PCs daily - mostly Excel
  • Can't send Mac documents to PC users unless converting them first.
  • Office documents frequently don't open properly in the Mac apps. (macros and special formatting)
  • Spend too much time trying to figure out how to do something in Mac app that I know how to do in MS.

Shouldn't you have just went windows then?
If the screen resolution was better then it would be a no brainer.
 
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Shouldn't you have just went windows then?
If the screen resolution was better then it would be a no brainer.
Maybe so. I only open Office maybe once a week on my MBA but when I do, I don't want issues. Installing MS Office was an easy choice as got it through their Home Use Program for something like $10.
 
It amazes me how people hate Windows so much (or love Mac OS so much) they are willing to pay $1,000 for a MacBook Air that hasn't been updated in 2 years and has a clearly inferior screen. And then they end up using MS Office.

I guess that's what's known as loyalty.
 
It amazes me how people hate Windows so much (or love Mac OS so much) they are willing to pay $1,000 for a MacBook Air that hasn't been updated in 2 years and has a clearly inferior screen. And then they end up using MS Office.

I guess that's what's known as loyalty.

I some what agree.
But windows 10 is not that great either.
 
It amazes me how people hate Windows so much (or love Mac OS so much) they are willing to pay $1,000 for a MacBook Air that hasn't been updated in 2 years and has a clearly inferior screen. And then they end up using MS Office.

I guess that's what's known as loyalty.
well, there’s a difference between Windows and Office. Yes, they’re both produced by Microsoft, but the distaste for Windows isn’t based on some silly fanboy feud as you are implying. There some of us who pick the right tools for the job and don’t fall for the “this team vs that team” silliness.
 
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Actually went and looked at the air and it is a great computer but the screen with everything being retina (1080p) I just could not do it.
So wound up picking up the MacBook 13in pro for like 1100. Pricey computer.
[doublepost=1524963384][/doublepost]Totally against the price I wanted to spend and totally against getting me wrapped back up into apple but this is my 3rd laptop purchase. My last one I sold and picked up a new one that is just terribly slow and does nothing, it lasted 8 or so years so hopefully this new one does the same.
 
we're looking to replace a 2009 MacBook Pro

Hi, I also have a mid-2009 Macbook Pro, and I'm curious how yours runs. I recently upgraded the hardware (HDD -> SSD, 4GB RAM -> 8GB, Optical drive -> 2TB 2nd HDD), and upgraded my OS from Snow Leopard to Sierra. And, it works great ! I even did a fair bit of programming on this (upgraded) machine and it was effortless.

I guess I'm curious as to why you feel the need to get a new machine. Is your 2009 MBP too slow, you feel ?
 
Hi, I also have a mid-2009 Macbook Pro, and I'm curious how yours runs. I recently upgraded the hardware (HDD -> SSD, 4GB RAM -> 8GB, Optical drive -> 2TB 2nd HDD), and upgraded my OS from Snow Leopard to Sierra. And, it works great ! I even did a fair bit of programming on this (upgraded) machine and it was effortless.

I guess I'm curious as to why you feel the need to get a new machine. Is your 2009 MBP too slow, you feel ?

Hi - not having all the expertise to do all the things you have done to yours, here’s what’s driving our decision: the computer no longer supports updates. When I spoke to Apple about it, they said that there is no fix due to the age and specs of the computer. Clearly not true, since you’ve got yours running well...but maybe they knew there is no hope for the untech-savvy?
 
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Hi - not having all the expertise to do all the things you have done to yours, here’s what’s driving our decision: the computer no longer supports updates. When I spoke to Apple about it, they said that there is no fix due to the age and specs of the computer. Clearly not true, since you’ve got yours running well...but maybe they knew there is no hope for the untech-savvy?

I see.

What Apple said to you is no surprise - they no longer officially support your machine, but that doesn't mean all that much. If you felt you were up to doing just those few upgrades I mentioned, for a total cost of less than $200, you could have yourself a very capable machine that could last you a few more years.

I understand that you might find doing the upgrades yourself intimidating if you're not used to that kind of thing, but there are tons of YouTube videos that show you how to do it. In a nutshell, it's removing a few screws, unplugging a cable or two or unlocking a slot, plugging in the new component, putting the screws back on, done !

Just wanted to mention it, in case you'd like to save yourself a lot of money investing an hour or two to do some upgrades. If not, that's cool, enjoy the new machine ! My friend just bought an MBA and it is a superb machine. Can't go wrong.

Cheers !
 
I got MS Office for Mac for a few reasons.
  • Use Office on work PCs daily - mostly Excel
  • Can't send Mac documents to PC users unless converting them first.
  • Office documents frequently don't open properly in the Mac apps. (macros and special formatting)
  • Spend too much time trying to figure out how to do something in Mac app that I know how to do in MS.
This sounds like collaborating with others so a copy of M$ Officecsounds like a first decade answer. Collaboration tools like Google Docs resolves this issue of compatibility that PC users have.
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It amazes me how people hate Windows so much (or love Mac OS so much) they are willing to pay $1,000 for a MacBook Air that hasn't been updated in 2 years and has a clearly inferior screen. And then they end up using MS Office.

I guess that's what's known as loyalty.
The trackpad under OS X is second to none. You simply wouldn’t put up with a trackpad under Windows if you’ve used the OS X trackpad for any length. It’s simply better.
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Shouldn't you have just went windows then?
If the screen resolution was better then it would be a no brainer.
I think the screen resolution is just fine if the whole value of the computer is considered. I’ve used 1920x1080 on a Dell PC 13” laptop and it’s a terrible experience. I just don’t dig the Retina display on this size of laptop.
 
It's back to 700 bucks today!
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Hi, I also have a mid-2009 Macbook Pro, and I'm curious how yours runs. I recently upgraded the hardware (HDD -> SSD, 4GB RAM -> 8GB, Optical drive -> 2TB 2nd HDD), and upgraded my OS from Snow Leopard to Sierra. And, it works great ! I even did a fair bit of programming on this (upgraded) machine and it was effortless.

I guess I'm curious as to why you feel the need to get a new machine. Is your 2009 MBP too slow, you feel ?
Possibly the graphics card is getting long in the tooth (same as my MBA 2010 had) but I generally found the crunch for High Sierra was 4GB was pretty minimal for app headroom. When you upgrade it to 8GB then it works great.
 
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Yeah, I am headed to BB in a couple of hours to snag one. It will be perfect for how I want to use it. While I am an Apple fanboy, I have never bought an Apple computer. Looking forward to it.
 
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I just bought a 256GB MBA at BB - great price with 250 off. It is replacing a 2012 MBP - wow is it faster - very nice. The only issue is that it didn't come with latest MAC OS installed so I had to do that before doing a TM backup
 
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