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ciaoben91

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I have a 14 inch (1TB, 10 core) and I am very happy with it. But it does have a giant battery usage while sleeping.
If a leave it 10 hours with the lid closed (no external devices attached) the battery dies.
It drives me crazy. I am testing everything, today I also tried to boot it in safe mode and made a test. At 11:30 AM I closed the lid (57%) and reopened at 18.49 (7 hours) and found it a 37%!
It is a 20% battery drain while doing literally nothing!!

I tried to launch this command:
"pmset -g log | grep -e "Wake from" -e "Dark Wake""
and got this:

Sleep/Wakes since boot at 2021-12-25 11:30:31 +0100 :0 Dark Wake Count in this sleep cycle:488


2021-12-25 12:34:10 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:57%) 7 secs


2021-12-25 13:37:44 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:54%) 7 secs


2021-12-25 14:00:00 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to NUB.SPMISw3IRQ nub-spmi0.0x02 rtc/Maintenance Using BATT (Charge:51%) 7 secs


2021-12-25 15:03:19 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:50%) 5 secs


2021-12-25 16:06:52 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:47%) 5 secs


2021-12-25 16:15:55 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to SMC.OutboxNotEmpty smc.70070000 wifibt wlan/ Using BATT (Charge:44%) 13 secs


2021-12-25 16:17:51 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to SMC.OutboxNotEmpty smc.70070000 wifibt wlan/ Using BATT (Charge:43%) 8 secs


2021-12-25 17:21:33 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:43%) 5 secs


2021-12-25 18:00:00 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to NUB.SPMISw3IRQ nub-spmi0.0x02 rtc/Maintenance Using BATT (Charge:40%) 9 secs


2021-12-25 18:16:33 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to SMC.OutboxNotEmpty smc.70070000 wifibt wlan/ Using BATT (Charge:38%) 7 secs


2021-12-25 18:18:08 +0100 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to SMC.OutboxNotEmpty smc.70070000 wifibt wlan/ Using BATT (Charge:37%) 5 secs


2021-12-25 18:49:02 +0100 Wake Wake from Deep Idle [CDNVA] : due to SMC.OutboxNotEmpty smc.70070000 lid/HID Activity Using BATT (Charge:37%)

any hint?
 
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Bumping this because I'm experiencing similar issues so much so that I'm considering returning.

What I can say though is that when I bought an M1 13 MBP it also faced the same issue, as if by magic, overnight it stopped doing it and will now happily sleep for days on end. How embarrassing though that my work surface Pro will happily sleep for a month no problems.
 
If you do PMSET -G there are several tty or tcp toggles to turn off. Be warned that doing so will not allow you to do "left behind" or "find my" type of stuff.

Your Mac is losing more power than it should so I would start by turning off screen time. Test it again, I'm currently testing my 14" M1 Pro to check the loss in 24 hours.
 
Just a data point.....charged to 100%, lid closed, unplugged, 24 hour wait, lid open, now at 99%
 
Thanks guys for the info.
Here is my pmset:

standby 1
Sleep On Power Button 1
SleepServices 0
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
powernap 0
disksleep 10
sleep 1 (sleep prevented by powerd)
hibernatemode 3
ttyskeepawake 0
displaysleep 15
tcpkeepalive 0
lowpowermode 0

I think I have disabled all the things that could have being disabled.
Tonight I also made a test with a pristine user not logged in, unplugged and closed the lid for the night at 100% at 22:00, at 11:00 am it was 50%. -.-

Clearly something is wrong. I called Apple but nothing seems off. We did some basic test, but nothing that could help. We arranged for an hardware check after the holidays.
Will keep you posted.

This Mac is so perfect, hope will be able to fix this problem.
 
What if you shut it down. Charge it to 100% while it's off. Then unplug it. Wait it out overnight. When you turn it on if it's drained like crazy you might have a defective battery. It's prob self discharging
 
What if you shut it down. Charge it to 100% while it's off. Then unplug it. Wait it out overnight. When you turn it on if it's drained like crazy you might have a defective battery. It's prob self discharging
I will make this test tonight and report back.

But on the call with the Apple support no detected problem on the battery come out.
 
I will make this test tonight and report back.

But on the call with the Apple support no detected problem on the battery come out.
Yeah that's the thing. If the battery itself is broken. It prob has a self discharge issue. Usually it has a very low self discharge current but if the battery is defective. Usually it has a very big self discharge current. In which even if you unplugged the laptop and turned it off it'll drain itself quickly.

A question, when you first got your new MacBook. Does it have any power in it? Or is it totally dead?
 
What does Apple support think is waking your laptop from sleep? From the original log it would seem 488 wakes is not normal behavior?
 
What does Apple support think is waking your laptop from sleep? From the original log it would seem 488 wakes is not normal behavior?
I could not talk to top technical support, I got help from a very nice person but definitely not technical. She guided me through a series of standard procedures and when I tried to upload the logs file she say she could not open the file (a .txt :D, probably are very rigid at apple...) so I created for her a pdf file. She will forward it to the technical support and I have a link to open the conversation with the technical support within 30 days. I won't open it yet because I have some work to do before end of the year and need the computer, but I will resume the assistance at the start of the new year.
 
Yeah that's the thing. If the battery itself is broken. It prob has a self discharge issue. Usually it has a very low self discharge current but if the battery is defective. Usually it has a very big self discharge current. In which even if you unplugged the laptop and turned it off it'll drain itself quickly.

A question, when you first got your new MacBook. Does it have any power in it? Or is it totally dead?
Honestly I can't remember. But I am pretty sure that one time I power it off and I don't remember to be surprised when I turned it the day after. I will try anyway tonight with the test you suggested and let you know!
 
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Anything in Activity Monitor preventing sleep? What apps do you have installed besides the stock ones? Other than that I have the same pmset-g log like you and my 16-inch drains a maximum of 2% in 24 hours of sleep. As a last resort try a fresh Monterey install, set the pmset values you have now and test with stock apps only.
 
I have a 14 inch (1TB, 10 core) and I am very happy with it. But it does have a giant battery usage while sleeping.
If a leave it 10 hours with the lid closed (no external devices attached) the battery dies.
It drives me crazy. I am testing everything, today I also tried to boot it in safe mode and made a test. At 11:30 AM I closed the lid (57%) and reopened at 18.49 (7 hours) and found it a 37%!
It is a 20% battery drain while doing literally nothing!!

I tried to launch this command:
"pmset -g log | grep -e "Wake from" -e "Dark Wake""
and got this:



any hint?
I have the same computer - 3 weeks old. I am losing 30% power overnight. I have disabled everything you could possible imagine and nothing is doing the trick. I even shut it computer off and it still lost 20% of its power overnight. These tests were done over 8 hours. I've worked with multiple folks at Apple for about a week and no one could figure it out. At this point, we THINk its a hardware issue. I have ran the same pmset in terminal and got the same outcome as you. I ordered another one which should be here on January 10th fingers crossed. Plan is to initiate a return on this one via Apple's extended return policy for the holidays which gives us until January 8th. Sucks big time as this computer is unbelievable.. just wish the battery held up.
 
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Yeah that's the thing. If the battery itself is broken. It prob has a self discharge issue. Usually it has a very low self discharge current but if the battery is defective. Usually it has a very big self discharge current. In which even if you unplugged the laptop and turned it off it'll drain itself quickly.

A question, when you first got your new MacBook. Does it have any power in it? Or is it totally dead?
Funny you ask that.. I have the same unit as OP, along with the same issues... and when mine arrived, it was complete dead.
 
Funny you ask that.. I have the same unit as OP, along with the same issues... and when mine arrived, it was complete dead.
Yep since that's usually the sign that the battery is defective. It usually self discharged till it's dead when it first arrived
 
Yep since that's usually the sign that the battery is defective. It usually self discharged till it's dead when it first arrived
Test done!

The battery seems to not have any problem. Power it off at 21:00 yesterday with 50% of battery, turned it on now (~12 hours later) at 50% of battery.
 
Anything in Activity Monitor preventing sleep? What apps do you have installed besides the stock ones? Other than that I have the same pmset-g log like you and my 16-inch drains a maximum of 2% in 24 hours of sleep. As a last resort try a fresh Monterey install, set the pmset values you have now and test with stock apps only.
In activity monitor I never see any process that prevent from sleep.
Also, as you can see from my post, the last test was made with a fresh user with nothing installed (it wasn't even logged in in Apple Account).

I am stuck at home, tomorrow I will receive an external hard disk so I will be able to try a fresh install. It is the last chance, I tried everything else.
 
Test done!

The battery seems to not have any problem. Power it off at 21:00 yesterday with 50% of battery, turned it on now (~12 hours later) at 50% of battery.
Okay then it's not the battery. It might be a software bug. Either a program is running in the background preventing sleep etc or something else. If everything still doesn't work I suggest really clean installing it since it is weird.
 
Yes, it is my last shot before going full with he assistance path.

The plan is:

- backup with timemachine and clone disk with super duper
- format and fresh install OS
- do not restore backup but create a user, and test it. (without logging in with my user)
- if the problem does not exist, try login with my apple account and test it again
- if the problem does not show, restore full backup and test

This should help understand if there is something with my account (I go heavy on iCloud Drive/Sync) or some application that I have installed.
 
Looks like maybe a peripheral connected via wifi/bt is waking the machine.

Maybe try unpair any bluetooth peripherals you have and see if it keeps waking up and draining battery?


Alternatively, maybe try turn off bluetooth before putting it to sleep and see if it makes any difference?
 
Looks like maybe a peripheral connected via wifi/bt is waking the machine.

Maybe try unpair any bluetooth peripherals you have and see if it keeps waking up and draining battery?
Only thing are the AirPods, but I also tried put it to sleep with bluethoot and wi-fi off.... it drains anyway
 
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Test done!

The battery seems to not have any problem. Power it off at 21:00 yesterday with 50% of battery, turned it on now (~12 hours later) at 50% of battery.
Tested mine again last night. Charged to 100%, unplugged. Woke up and its at 83%. Definitely a defective battery/hardware issue.
 
Turned off.

When it’s sleeping it loses 30% overnight. Same pmset log as you, along with outboxnotempty reason for waking.

I’m returning it as my new one is expected to be delivered January 10th. So disappointing!
 
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