Yeah if the power is off and it drains like that. It's definitely the battery. Just return it for another unit
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MBP 14 Battery Drain While sleep
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Yeah it’s definitely a defected unit. Returning it next week and awaiting my new one. Fingers crossed it’s a good one!
Ok I did all the test, and it is an hardware problem. Or the mac is cursed.
I backed up everything with superduper AND time machine, then I wiped the hard-drive and performed a clean install of the OS.
After the clean install I started the mac, created a user but I did not enabled anything. I even didn't logged in my apple account. It was only a plain mac user with no custom apps installed. I closed the lid and unplugged the charger when the battery was 100%. After 3 hours it was 90%. No process running, nothing.
During the night I had another doubt, maybe it was a faulted OS version?
In my first attempt I restored my mac using the version that was already on my mac. So to be sure I downloaded the last MacOS version as a .dmg file and created a bootable hard disk. I wiped the hard disk again and performed a clean install from the bootable disk.
Created a new user (nothing except for the touch ID was turned on, I skipped every step in the setup so no screen time, no siri, no apple account....), closed the lid and go enjoy my life.
After 4 hours the battery had lost 12% of battery.
At this point, I don't know what to do anymore. Will report this data to Apple and hope for a replacement. I will bring the mac completely wiped to the apple store. I have approx 1 hours to the closest Apple Store. I will put it to sleep to 100% so I will be able to show from the battery stats that the battery continuously drop with no reason.
I attached some screenshot from this night when I put it to sleep with a empty user with no custom apps and Apple account logged in.
I backed up everything with superduper AND time machine, then I wiped the hard-drive and performed a clean install of the OS.
After the clean install I started the mac, created a user but I did not enabled anything. I even didn't logged in my apple account. It was only a plain mac user with no custom apps installed. I closed the lid and unplugged the charger when the battery was 100%. After 3 hours it was 90%. No process running, nothing.
During the night I had another doubt, maybe it was a faulted OS version?
In my first attempt I restored my mac using the version that was already on my mac. So to be sure I downloaded the last MacOS version as a .dmg file and created a bootable hard disk. I wiped the hard disk again and performed a clean install from the bootable disk.
Created a new user (nothing except for the touch ID was turned on, I skipped every step in the setup so no screen time, no siri, no apple account....), closed the lid and go enjoy my life.
After 4 hours the battery had lost 12% of battery.
At this point, I don't know what to do anymore. Will report this data to Apple and hope for a replacement. I will bring the mac completely wiped to the apple store. I have approx 1 hours to the closest Apple Store. I will put it to sleep to 100% so I will be able to show from the battery stats that the battery continuously drop with no reason.
I attached some screenshot from this night when I put it to sleep with a empty user with no custom apps and Apple account logged in.
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Yeah we have literally the exact same experience with the exact same troubleshooting methods. I believe there is a short on the motherboard causing the battery to self discharge when there is zero usage. It discharges even quicker when there is very light usage. I am losing 10% per hour with literally just Safari open with 3 tabs. I can try to put you in touch with the Senior Advisor I've been working with at Apple?
Thanks, very kind. But I am in Italy and currently I have an opened case so it is good. As I wrote some posts ago the first kind of support was very nice, and left me with a link valido 30 days to escalate the problem to the very technical support.
I didn't act on it because I wanted to complete these tests and because I don't expect more than "bring the mac" in.
I have a deadline next week so I can't stay without my mac, but I will go full on the support path as soon as the deadline will be....death!
In case I will have problem with my support I will write to you get in contact with your advisor. It is my first time that I am in need of a replacement, hopefully there won't be any problems!
Forza Italia!! Forza Azzurri!! Forza Chiesa!! Let's connect on WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger and stay in touch on this. My new Mac will be arriving in the next two weeks, I am curious to see what the experience is like on the new one. I've never had an issue with any Apple Product except for this one.
Any news about this issue? I'm having the same problem. Macbook M1 Max , 64gb memory.
I use it in clamshell mode, connected to an external monitor.
I tried everything, this is the log I see:
I use it in clamshell mode, connected to an external monitor.
I tried everything, this is the log I see:
Code:
2022-01-11 20:17:20 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-01-11 21:21:22 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-01-11 22:25:30 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-01-11 23:29:57 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-01-12 00:34:26 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:99%) 45 secs
My (similar) situation definitely is a hardware issue. Mine won’t even turn on anymore. Magsafe blinks orange and the computer is a giant paper weight. Thankfully new one has shipped.
Don't you have the same issue with your new macbook?
Today I saw tons of these:
Code:
2022-01-12 09:38:08 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to NUB.SPMISw3IRQ nub-spmi0.0x02 rtc/ Using BATT (Charge:56%) 45 secs
2022-01-12 09:38:57 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to NUB.SPMISw3IRQ nub-spmi0.0x02 rtc/ Using BATT (Charge:56%) 45 secs
2022-01-12 09:39:47 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to NUB.SPMISw3IRQ nub-spmi0.0x02 rtc/ Using BATT (Charge:55%) 4 secsFrom 100 (02:25:47 am) to 55% (09:39:47am)
Yes I have same issues, however they run past software. My computer loses 20% power overnight when it is off, and loses 30% of power when it is sleeping over night. Most certainly a hardware issue. Thankfully I took advantage of the extended return period over the Holidays and am sending this one back once my new one arrives (any day now). I will be testing out both units once the new one arrives. I'll update.
Awesome, we'll wait for your update. Also if you don't see the issue anymore, you could run this command and share with us:
pmset -g custom
I have set my pmset's to 0's for the necessary actions, but then when I was doing testing with Apple, they wanted to run them stock so I reinstalled MacOS, and have left every stock since then. But even when I customized the pmset to 0's for powernap, keepawake, and keepalive - the problem didn't get better at all.
Here is my pmset -g custom as of right now:
Battery Power:
Sleep On Power Button 1
lowpowermode 1
standby 1
ttyskeepawake 1
hibernatemode 3
powernap 1
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
displaysleep 2
sleep 1
tcpkeepalive 1
lessbright 1
disksleep 10
AC Power:
Sleep On Power Button 1
lowpowermode 0
standby 1
ttyskeepawake 1
hibernatemode 3
powernap 1
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
displaysleep 0
womp 1
networkoversleep 0
sleep 1
tcpkeepalive 1
disksleep 10
Also, yes - my computer did decide to turn on eventually today. It was weird.. MagSafe was flashing orange, computer would not turn on. Left it for an hour, came back and it did in fact turn on and charged to 80% and stopped for the first time (optimize battery charging feature finally started working nearly 4 weeks after using this). I've now disabled that feature and am letting the computer charge to 100% and then will monitor battery drain from there.
I lose about 20% per hour when ONLY using Safari (twitter/reddit), along with the battery self discharging when its powered down, and losing a ton of power when its sleeping. Nothing about my experience with this laptop is normal lol.
Here is my pmset -g custom as of right now:
Battery Power:
Sleep On Power Button 1
lowpowermode 1
standby 1
ttyskeepawake 1
hibernatemode 3
powernap 1
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
displaysleep 2
sleep 1
tcpkeepalive 1
lessbright 1
disksleep 10
AC Power:
Sleep On Power Button 1
lowpowermode 0
standby 1
ttyskeepawake 1
hibernatemode 3
powernap 1
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
displaysleep 0
womp 1
networkoversleep 0
sleep 1
tcpkeepalive 1
disksleep 10
Also, yes - my computer did decide to turn on eventually today. It was weird.. MagSafe was flashing orange, computer would not turn on. Left it for an hour, came back and it did in fact turn on and charged to 80% and stopped for the first time (optimize battery charging feature finally started working nearly 4 weeks after using this). I've now disabled that feature and am letting the computer charge to 100% and then will monitor battery drain from there.
I lose about 20% per hour when ONLY using Safari (twitter/reddit), along with the battery self discharging when its powered down, and losing a ton of power when its sleeping. Nothing about my experience with this laptop is normal lol.
I'm losing on average about 1% per hour while M1 Air sleeps. While I guess it's better than some figures reported in this thread, I still feel like it's too much and is frustrating. Any advice? I'm what you'd call a basic user. From what I'm seeing in Activity monitor nothing is abnormal and nothing is preventing sleep...
Yeah that is definitely still too much. You should lose 0%-1% overnight while the computer is sleeping based on what I've been told, and what I've seen around the web regarding this topic. I wonder if you have the same issue that a few of us have in which the Mac is waking up when sleeping due to "OutboxNotEmpty".. best way to determine if this is the case would be to fire up the Terminal app and type in: pmset -g log | grep -e "Wake from" -e "Dark Wake"
Note - My MacBook's battery also self discharges when its powered off, so the battery itself is defective which is probably resulting in worse power loss in comparison to yours. But back to my point above, you shouldn't be losing 1% per hour when the computer is sleeping. Try that command in the terminal and see if you see a lot of "SMC.Outbox Not Empty" messages in your results.
I would also turn your computer off before bed, and leave it overnight. Fire it up in the morning and see if the battery depleted at all. (Mine loses 20-20% power overnight when the computer is off - not normal).
Note - My MacBook's battery also self discharges when its powered off, so the battery itself is defective which is probably resulting in worse power loss in comparison to yours. But back to my point above, you shouldn't be losing 1% per hour when the computer is sleeping. Try that command in the terminal and see if you see a lot of "SMC.Outbox Not Empty" messages in your results.
I would also turn your computer off before bed, and leave it overnight. Fire it up in the morning and see if the battery depleted at all. (Mine loses 20-20% power overnight when the computer is off - not normal).
UPDATE: Received the new MacBook Pro and wow, what a difference! First off, it actually booted up as soon as I opened the lid for the first time at 81% power (great sign). I've charged it up to 100% and left it so it could index and get everything synced. Just pulled the charger
UPDATE - Received my new Laptop today. First good sign was that it powered up as soon as I opened the lid for the first time. I charged it to 100% 6.5 hours ago, shut the lid, and it is still at 100% now. Ahh, that's more like it. Now to install my heavy hitting software (Logic) and have some fun!
Small update on my situation.
Finally I took it to the Apple store. They seemed a little confused to me.
We ran a basic diagnostic and it was all ok.
They started talking about software problem but I told them about my tries with clean install, not logged-in, of mac OS and they looked very very surprised.
I left to them to take a deeper look, they will let me know the next week. Hopefully we will have some answers.
Finally I took it to the Apple store. They seemed a little confused to me.
We ran a basic diagnostic and it was all ok.
They started talking about software problem but I told them about my tries with clean install, not logged-in, of mac OS and they looked very very surprised.
I left to them to take a deeper look, they will let me know the next week. Hopefully we will have some answers.
AFTER 3 WEEKS THE APPLE STORE CALLED ME BACK WITH NEWS.
This problem is pesky, and it needed the escalation to the Apple Engineering Team that is very slow.
All the hardware is ok, the problem appears to be software, and related to the Bluetooth that basically does not sleep.
They told me the problem is solved with the update currently in beta (MacOS 12.3). I hope it is true. Is not very useful to have a 3k laptop that drains while should sleep!
I will pick it up on friday and try to install the beta version!
Wish me luck!
This problem is pesky, and it needed the escalation to the Apple Engineering Team that is very slow.
All the hardware is ok, the problem appears to be software, and related to the Bluetooth that basically does not sleep.
They told me the problem is solved with the update currently in beta (MacOS 12.3). I hope it is true. Is not very useful to have a 3k laptop that drains while should sleep!
I will pick it up on friday and try to install the beta version!
Wish me luck!
I continue with the issue even with 12.2.1 version, I hope they fix the issue on 12.3.
One thing that was working for me is the hibernatemode 25, when I switch to that mode the macbook doesn't lose battery, the problem is that I need to open the macbook to wake up (and it take some seconds to start ~15-20).
NOTE: I said I have to open the macbook because I'm using it in clamshell mode (closed with external monitor).
2022-02-12 01:59:25 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 03:03:42 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 04:08:08 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:100%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 05:12:33 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:99%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 06:16:52 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:98%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 07:21:21 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:96%) 45 secs
2022-02-12 08:25:46 -0500 DarkWake DarkWake from Deep Idle [CDN] : due to AOP.OutboxNotEmpty spu_queue_overflow_ep42/ Using BATT (Charge:94%) 45 secs
One thing that was working for me is the hibernatemode 25, when I switch to that mode the macbook doesn't lose battery, the problem is that I need to open the macbook to wake up (and it take some seconds to start ~15-20).
NOTE: I said I have to open the macbook because I'm using it in clamshell mode (closed with external monitor).
Got the exact same DarkWake message with Clamshell mode plus external monitors.
I don't know about the battery draining. I only searched on Google for that specific message (spu_queue_overflow_ep42) because each time there's this message in the log my main screen (LG) briefly wake up and goes to sleep instantly.
I will have to check for the battery issue now too.
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