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I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
I want blueray for feature movies as well as home video. I have a Canon HD camcorder (avchd) and would love to burn home movies to blueray. Jobs is a brilliant man, but sometimes he can be a stubborn son of a b1tch.

Oh, and if you all read the thread, it says OPTION. Why wouldn't they give us the option to upgrade for a price of course? CHOICE...we should have more of it.

Option and Apple doesnt rhyme in same sentence. It is either Steve's way or highway. Dude had some serious control issues growing up :).
 
Seriously, what was their idea of not including a bluray player or even better a bluray burner option? :(

There are technological hurdles (no drive small enough for a MB/MBP), licensing hurdles (DRM in the kernel of the OS) and business hurdles (competition with the iTS).

However, if you want to play Blu-ray discs on your Mac it's quite easy. Just buy an external Blu-ray drive, buy MakeMKV ($50) and insert the disc. Let MakeMKV grab the decryption keys off the disc, then start its streaming server and open the stream in a suitable app, such as the freeware VLC.
 
I have bad news for you major proponents of downloadable media: Until the people who are... say, no older than 30 now (that's just a rough estimate) are middle-aged and people who grew up before computers became commonplace in a household have either fully embraced technology or died out, optical media isn't going anywhere.

People that are currently in their teens, twenties, and I'll give it up to early thirties, are more used to a digital lifestyle than people in their forties, fifties, sixties, etc. I certainly know that most of the people I know that just use computers for e-mail and maybe Youtube don't know how to download a movie off of iTunes. Even though it's easy, they wouldn't be willing to learn.

Advancements in technology give older people who are used to doing things certain ways a feeling of uselessness, which makes them not want to adopt these new technologies.

Now, allow me to say this: I have downloaded a few movies, TONS of music, and a few other goodies off of iTunes, and I have been known to use Steam, so I'm by no means an opponent of digital distribution. I personally think it's great, but it just won't become the social norm for, say, watching a movie on your big screen TV until people who are accustomed to technology are the primary consumers of society.

On a side note, I just like having the hard copy. I can't exactly explain it; I only use my actual CDs instead of my iPod when at home. Something just feels fun about having a collection.

I think things like Slingbox and AppleTV are great leaps and bounds in the right direction for home media, but I daresay that I know only a few people older than in their early 20s with the technology know-how to operate such things.

Technophobia is holding back our society (not just in entertainment, in stuff like medicine, enterprise, and such too). It's sad, but it's true.
 
Advancements in technology give older people who are used to doing things certain ways a feeling of uselessness, which makes them not want to adopt these new technologies.

I dunno about that. I'm in my early 40s, though I admit I'm more the exception than the rule.

My issue with download and streaming is over quality and whack ass DRM which in my experience, has only harmed me as a legit consumer and makes me regret not pirating things in some cases.

The ageism/generational thing is real though, so, mostly I agree with you, but, all digital all the time still has a way to go before it gives me the power, freedom and quality I used to get with physical media.

I'm a collector too. I have a few hard drives dedicated to my collection of ****.
 
I dunno about that. I'm in my early 40s, though I admit I'm more the exception than the rule.

My issue with download and streaming is over quality and whack ass DRM which in my experience, has only harmed me as a legit consumer and makes me regret not pirating things in some cases.

The ageism/generational thing is real though, so, mostly I agree with you, but, all digital all the time still has a way to go before it gives me the power, freedom and quality I used to get with physical media.

I'm a collector too. I have a few hard drives dedicated to my collection of ****.

Of course there are always exceptions to the rules :p

And please don't think I'm trying to age discriminate. It's psychology; the older people get, the less open they are to new technologies (as a general trend, of course, as you have proven, there are exceptions). :D
 
Of course there are always exceptions to the rules :p

And please don't think I'm trying to age discriminate. It's psychology; the older people get, the less open they are to new technologies (as a general trend, of course, as you have proven, there are exceptions). :D

I have no problems with what you said, it's largely true.

Most people after their early 30s become old farts with their jobs, kids and minivans. They stop learning new things and just try to cope with day to day life and go into cruise control. I say that people die at different points in their life - where they lose a childlike interest in new things and a wonderment in the world around them and just watch a lot of Glen Beck to feel intellectual and yell at people to "get off my lawn!"

I remember being a kid and thinking that old people were weird and vowed to never be one.
 
I have no problems with what you said, it's largely true.

Most people after their early 30s become old farts with their jobs, kids and minivans. They stop learning new things and just try to cope with day to day life and go into cruise control. I say that people die at different points in their life - where they lose a childlike interest in new things and a wonderment in the world around them and just watch a lot of Glen Beck to feel intellectual and yell at people to "get off my lawn!"

I remember being a kid and thinking that old people were weird and vowed to never be one.

Hehehe. I agree that age is largely a state of mind (although, hell, I'm still chronologically very young, so what do I know?).

Anyways, to contribute to the discussion more: I also agree that the whole DRM business has really hindered the digital distribution industry.
 
Apple it making it clear they are going digital.

And you think BluRay is analog? he sad part here is that Apple fan are either a) watching BluRay on home theater or b) they have never seen a blu-ray quality yet (which is sad).
 
Anyways, to contribute to the discussion more: I also agree that the whole DRM business has really hindered the digital distribution industry.

iTunes and Netflix should not even exist.

That they do just shows the extent of fail by the music and film industries to handle their business.

If the music labels started selling .mp3 files for .10 a long time ago, they would have achieved critical mass and volume, and more importantly, they would have wedded people to their system and made pirating barely even worth the time.

Instead, they got greedy, kept prices high and hobbled the product with DRM which has frustrated anyone with an audible account or who has gotten the message that some file has been authorized too many times.

Black markets form to handle inefficiencies in the system, not to turn average people into criminals.
 
Why does everyone want Bluray so badly?

It's not like anybody buys movies anyways. :eek:

I for one still buy a lot of DVDs :D Heck I only really started my DVD collection at the end of last year..

As for Bluray, I would definitely look into buying films I really liked on it.. If I had a player.
 
Of course there are always exceptions to the rules :p

And please don't think I'm trying to age discriminate. It's psychology; the older people get, the less open they are to new technologies (as a general trend, of course, as you have proven, there are exceptions). :D
I think you are missing a HUGE part of this equation. Most of the time when people are reluctant to change it is because the very thing you are changing to is worse than what you're changing from. Example, Vinyl still sounds better than CD's - yeah there is more noise but the frequencies are correct. CD's sound so much better than MP3's it's a joke. BluRay looks better than anything you can download. So, change for the sake of change isn't always good. It is quite unfair to say that because someone is of such and such an age they are technophobes. That is a bunch of rhino dung. Until I can download UNMOLESTED UNCOMPRESSED sound files and video files, CD's and DVD's > anything downloaded. That isn't being a technophobe that is being a realist. If you are happy with crappy sounding and looking files, hey more power to ya.
 
with jobs at the helm, ...we have a better chance of seeing MidEast peace, pigs fly, and hell freeze over then BR on the Macs.
 
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