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MBP 2018 Turns On When Any Key Pressed?

jiangning

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I have successfully turned off the automatic start up whenever the lid is open, but 2018 MBP also starts up automatically whenever I press any key or touchpad. It is annoying when I am cleaning the computer. Anyone knows how to turn this feature off?


See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150

Your MacBook Pro (2016 and newer) or MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, 2017) also turns on when you do these things:

  • Open the lid of your Mac, even if it's not connected to power.
  • Connect your Mac to a power adapter while its lid is open3.
  • Connect your Mac to a power adapter while its lid is closed and it's connected to an external display.
Additionally, MacBook Pro (2018) turns on when you press any key on the keyboard or press the trackpad.
 

New_Mac_Smell

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Have you actually turned the computer off? Sounds like it's being put into hibernation/sleep, in which case yes, any key will wake it back up. If it's turned off completely, then only the things mentioned power it on.
 

jiangning

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I know these apps but they won’t work when the computer is turn off.
Yes, I have turned it off. The webpage specifically mentions the 2018 models will turn on when you press any key.
I don’t know why is Apple adding these annoying “features”
 
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dof250

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I know these apps but they won’t work when the computer is turn off.
Yes, I have turned it off. The webpage specifically mentions the 2018 models will turn on when you press any key.
I don’t know why is Apple adding these annoying “features”
You don't have to turn off the laptop if you use this to clean it... Whats the problem?
 
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maflynn

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Why is it annoying? Could you not clean the keyboard while it’s on the login screen?
I find it annoying because I want the computer powered off, not in some quasi sleep status, that brings it back to life with a pressing of the key. Back in the day, turning it off was just that. The computer was not consuming any power. Now it seems off is not really off.
 

keysofanxiety

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I find it annoying because I want the computer powered off, not in some quasi sleep status, that brings it back to life with a pressing of the key. Back in the day, turning it off was just that. The computer was not consuming any power. Now it seems off is not really off.

Yeah there are definitely disadvantages to this, like if you spill liquid on it and want it completely off. You don't want to risk it turning itself back on.
 

macintoshmac

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I have successfully turned off the automatic start up whenever the lid is open, but 2018 MBP also starts up automatically whenever I press any key or touchpad. It is annoying when I am cleaning the computer. Anyone knows how to turn this feature off?


See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150

Your MacBook Pro (2016 and newer) or MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, 2017) also turns on when you do these things:

  • Open the lid of your Mac, even if it's not connected to power.
  • Connect your Mac to a power adapter while its lid is open3.
  • Connect your Mac to a power adapter while its lid is closed and it's connected to an external display.
Additionally, MacBook Pro (2018) turns on when you press any key on the keyboard or press the trackpad.

Finally we can reliably blame something on the house cat. Way to go Apple!
 
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lambertjohn

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Why is it annoying? Could you not clean the keyboard while it’s on the login screen?
it's annoying because when you start to wipe the keys with a cleaning cloth, the computer turns on and eventually starts to loudly "beep beep beep" as you continue to wipe the keys. Presumably because you're pressing down on the keys in an effort to get them clean. It's a dumb, idiotic feature that needs a way to be disabled.
 

Falhófnir

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I knew about the lid opening bringing the computer on (which I think makes sense) but this seems next-level annoying, who thought this was a necessary/ good idea? Surely this is the point of having a power button in the first place?
 
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tm0000

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I agree. It's so annoying!

Has anyone figured out a solution? Please share!

Thanks

it's annoying because when you start to wipe the keys with a cleaning cloth, the computer turns on and eventually starts to loudly "beep beep beep" as you continue to wipe the keys. Presumably because you're pressing down on the keys in an effort to get them clean. It's a dumb, idiotic feature that needs a way to be disabled.
 

markbyrn

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There's a terminal command to disable power on when raising the lid (sudo nvram AutoBoot=%00) and I'm hoping there's a new secret terminal command to disable power-up when pressing the trackpad or keys that aren't the power key.
 

Clix Pix

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I agree. It's so annoying!

Has anyone figured out a solution? Please share!

Thanks

It's quite simple, really...... Open the lid, computer starts up and after it has finished booting up, then while keeping the lid open, shut the computer down again. Then clean the keys and the trackpad and the screen, too, if so desired. When finished, simply press the power button and the machine turns on and boots up again.

ETA: Actually, I didn't press any of the keys or the trackpad while the lid was open, come to think of it -- I had turned the machine off/shut down in order to resolve an issue with my modem and router and didn't close the lid on the machine. So my response may be incorrect, as I see when reading the thread again more carefully. I've only had this 2018 15" MBP for a few days. Mea culpa!
 
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sheiko

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It's quite simple, really...... Open the lid, computer starts up and after it has finished booting up, then while keeping the lid open, shut the computer down again. Then clean the keys and the trackpad and the screen, too, if so desired. When finished, simply press the power button and the machine turns on and boots up again.

ETA: Actually, I didn't press any of the keys or the trackpad while the lid was open, come to think of it -- I had turned the machine off/shut down in order to resolve an issue with my modem and router and didn't close the lid on the machine. So my response may be incorrect, as I see when reading the thread again more carefully. I've only had this 2018 15" MBP for a few days. Mea culpa!
No, it doesn't work. After turning off and pressing any key (without closing the lid and opening again) the system still boots up (MacBook Air 2018).
 

Clix Pix

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Last night after I had shut down the computer for the night, I thought, "wait -- let's experiment with this!" and touched a couple of keys.....and sure enough, she booted up again. So now I know about this odd little situation. I'm glad this thread is here! My 12" 2017 MacBook, once it is shut down with the lid open, still stays shut down, so I wouldn't have expected this new 2918 MacBook Pro to behave differently. Glad to know this now......
 

clarios

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Please, do not respond with "why do you want this?" or "you can lock the screen to clean it", or other. All of us who want this disabled already know all that. But it is not what we would like to have. Thanks!!

For anyone else who wants this "feature" disabled...

As posted earlier and elsewhere, disable auto-boot on lid open or power cable plug in:

http://osxdaily.com/2017/01/19/disable-boot-on-open-lid-macbook-pro/

Disable auto-boot when you press any key on the keyboard or press the trackpad...

Nothing done by Apple, yet. But I got this from a chat with Apple support:
  • let people know to either call/chat or to leave feedback here.
  • https://www.apple.com/feedback/
  • The more we escalate this and get a lot of feedback, the faster Apple will release it, trust me, I have seen it happen!
So let's do as they ask, and hopefully we'll get what we desire.
 

Clix Pix

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I don't mind the auto-boot when I open the lid, but I have now found it very annoying to have the machine start up again after I've just gotten through shutting it down and then have accidentally touched a key or the trackpad while closing the lid. GRRRR! This has happened a couple of times now when I've been shutting down for the night. Then I have to wait for the machine to finish booting up only to immediately shut it down again. I do think Apple went too far with this last "feature."
 

chabig

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I knew about the lid opening bringing the computer on (which I think makes sense) but this seems next-level annoying, who thought this was a necessary/ good idea? Surely this is the point of having a power button in the first place?
Except there is no power button.
 

revmacian

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There IS a power button. It just looks a little different than on previous models of the MBP since it is at the end of the Touch Bar and is also meant to be used with one's fingerprint if the user has implemented Touch ID (I have not done that on mine, no need for it).
I understand there is a power button. However, if the device powers up when opening the lid, was the device really powered completely off to begin with? Does the lid have some sort of physical mechanism that triggers the power on event?

Perhaps my definition of "powered off" needs to be amended, but I feel that a quasi-sleep mode does not qualify as being powered down. in my mind, powered off means the same thing as removing the electrical cord and battery from the device.
 

Fpb1980

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I understand there is a power button. However, if the device powers up when opening the lid, was the device really powered completely off to begin with? Does the lid have some sort of physical mechanism that triggers the power on event?

Perhaps my definition of "powered off" needs to be amended, but I feel that a quasi-sleep mode does not qualify as being powered down. in my mind, powered off means the same thing as removing the electrical cord and battery from the device.


I just got a new macbook pro and it definitely shuts off but starts when the lid is opened. I found the below link to change that in the terminal.

http://osxdaily.com/2017/01/19/disable-boot-on-open-lid-macbook-pro/
 
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