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I bet he's being sarcastic.

As was I. :D

Seriously, enjoy life toys now. Don't stand on the sidelines waiting for the next version. With technology there will always be something better. Enjoy it now and worry about the next one later. It's not like you can stop them for making a new model.
 
As was I. :D

Seriously, enjoy life toys now. Don't stand on the sidelines waiting for the next version. With technology there will always be something better. Enjoy it now and worry about the next one later. It's not like you can stop them for making a new model.

Quite true. Hopefully everyone didn't misunderstand, I don't plan on creating this thread once a year. I'm very familiar with tech revisions, re-releases, etc, and typically have no problem deciding.

I just wanted a wee bit of extra input for this, one, particular buy now/wait debate since, as I said in my first post, I don't "NEED" a new laptop right now, but it would really do me a fair amount of good :)
 
Quite true. Hopefully everyone didn't misunderstand, I don't plan on creating this thread once a year. I'm very familiar with tech revisions, re-releases, etc, and typically have no problem deciding.

I just wanted a wee bit of extra input for this, one, particular buy now/wait debate since, as I said in my first post, I don't "NEED" a new laptop right now, but it would really do me a fair amount of good :)
so you need advice from random people on the internet on what YOU should do? That makes no sense, none of us live your life, we don't know your needs, we don't know how much you do or don't need a computer. Not trying to be mean, but for goodness sakes, you are the only one who knows YOUR situation... YOU have to decide if you want the computer or not...
 
so you need advice from random people on the internet on what YOU should do? That makes no sense, none of us live your life, we don't know your needs, we don't know how much you do or don't need a computer. Not trying to be mean, but for goodness sakes, you are the only one who knows YOUR situation... YOU have to decide if you want the computer or not...

Well other than this little temper-tantrum everyone has been exceedingly helpful, and I appreciate the advice :)
 
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Buy now, 2011 model is amazing.
 
I'd recommend waiting for the 2012 refresh and here's why:

1) Apple’s next Macbook Pro refresh is likely to include Intel’s forthcoming CPU bump codenamed Ivy Bridge (scheduled to debut in Q4 2011) which, if Intel meets their goals, will have 20% better performance, use slightly less power and have a considerably more favorable TDP rating (less thermal output).

2) Intel’s integrated graphics will no doubt improve somewhat. I doubt it will be enough of an advancement to merit the outright removal of the discrete GPU from the higher-end MacBook Pros, but it could be enough to raise the cross-over threshold where the discrete GPU takes over, which would have a positive impact on battery life and net thermal output in several use cases.

3) OS X 10.7, codenamed Lion will have been released, as likely will the inevitable first service release that resolves some of Lion’s must-fix RTM bugs. Somewhere in this mix will likely exist improved graphics drivers.

4) Maturing SSD technology may finally put SSD upgrades at a point of mainstream accessibility. Right now, the benefits don't always match the costs. Apple may also include TRIM support for non-Apple-supplied SSDs when Lion ships.

5) There will be a much clearer picture of where Thunderbolt stands.

6) From a driver perspective, it appears Apple still has room to improve with the new hardware.

7) Most builds of the 2011 MBP are showing considerable depreciation in the secondary markets, so you might not be able trade up for next year's model without digging deeply into your own pocket.
 
Thanks so much for replying everyone, really great stuff. I think I am going to go take the pLunge now (tomorrow, in fact). It seems like the positives outweigh the negatives this time around. I also liked the comment about potential revision problems - something I didn't think about. I'll go with the safe, sexy, reliable UB right now and wait for a couple revisions ahead (unless, and this is more likely, I break down the second the revision comes out and try to trade up :))

And yeah, education discount ftw! Can't wait to use that.

Now only one question remains...

Glossy or AG?
:p

Skip the 2011 MacBook Pro. You have been warned.
 
Oh my. punchwalk seems to have turned my world upside down! Back to some heavy thinking!
 
I'd recommend waiting for the 2012 refresh and here's why:

1) Apple’s next Macbook Pro refresh is likely to include Intel’s forthcoming CPU bump codenamed Ivy Bridge (scheduled to debut in Q4 2011) which, if Intel meets their goals, will have 20% better performance, use slightly less power and have a considerably more favorable TDP rating (less thermal output).
And in 2013, there will be even better chips. If you're willing to wait a year, you're willing to wait forever

2) Intel’s integrated graphics will no doubt improve somewhat. I doubt it will be enough of an advancement to merit the outright removal of the discrete GPU from the higher-end MacBook Pros, but it could be enough to raise the cross-over threshold where the discrete GPU takes over, which would have a positive impact on battery life and net thermal output in several use cases.
Besides games, I think the Intel HD 3000 GPU can handle just about anything you throw at it

3) OS X 10.7, codenamed Lion will have been released, as likely will the inevitable first service release that resolves some of Lion’s must-fix RTM bugs. Somewhere in this mix will likely exist improved graphics drivers.
Likely any purchase made in the next month or two will be eligible for Apple's $9.99 upgrade to Lion. And heck, you'd rather want to have an OS with a tried and tested version of OS X (aka Snow Leopard) while Lion works out it's kinks and developers update their software.

4) Maturing SSD technology may finally put SSD upgrades at a point of mainstream accessibility. Right now, the benefits don't always match the costs. Apple may also include TRIM support for non-Apple-supplied SSDs when Lion ships.
While technology may be "mainstream accessible", it has always been cheaper to buy parts and upgrade them yourself.

5) There will be a much clearer picture of where Thunderbolt stands.
This port will still exist for use in 2011 MBPs

6) From a driver perspective, it appears Apple still has room to improve with the new hardware.
Hardware can always be improved

7) Most builds of the 2011 MBP are showing considerable depreciation in the secondary markets, so you might not be able trade up for next year's model without digging deeply into your own pocket.
So buy from the secondary market instead of from Apple. I got a new high-end 2011 15" MacBook Pro from eBay for only $1815 shipped. At that price, it was a steal. After tax, it was a savings of $565. I hardly think they'd depreciate enough that that same notebook next year will be worth significantly less.

tl dr: if you're willing to wait for a hypothetical update in 2012, then you're willing to wait forever because of stories like these that only end up being false:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/22/macbook-pro-specs-leaked-ssd-better-battery-new-technology/

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/2...-larger-trackpads-dedicated-ssd-for-mac-os-x/
 
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I'd recommend waiting for the 2012 refresh and here's why:

1) Apple’s next Macbook Pro refresh is likely to include Intel’s forthcoming CPU bump codenamed Ivy Bridge (scheduled to debut in Q4 2011) which, if Intel meets their goals, will have 20% better performance, use slightly less power and have a considerably more favorable TDP rating (less thermal output).

3) OS X 10.7, codenamed Lion will have been released, as likely will the inevitable first service release that resolves some of Lion’s must-fix RTM bugs. Somewhere in this mix will likely exist improved graphics drivers.

5) There will be a much clearer picture of where Thunderbolt stands.

7) Most builds of the 2011 MBP are showing considerable depreciation in the secondary markets, so you might not be able trade up for next year's model without digging deeply into your own pocket.
1. Ivy Bridge will be released to OEM's later this year, it won't appear in products until 2012, so if you are willing to wait a year, I guess go for it.

3. You will still be able to upgrade a 2011 machine to Lion, and you will be able to do it this year instead of waiting until next.

5. Your current thunderbolt port isn't going to stop working....

7. 2011 showing considerable depreciation? They have been out for like 90 days, CL and ebay are showing pretty normal prices, not sure where you think the depreciation is...
 
7. 2011 showing considerable depreciation? They have been out for like 90 days, CL and ebay are showing pretty normal prices, not sure where you think the depreciation is...

If you look at completed listings on eBay that have actually sold, you'll see that even slightly used 2011 MBPs are selling for 400-500 USD less than retail.
 
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