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MBPR gaming experience (Diablo, Starcraft)
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In my experience this is not true. I have tried the mbpr at 1680x1050 and it is definitely blurry, AA or no AA. The 1680x1050 native looks a lot better on my early 2011. 1440 was ugly.
I was not very scientific in benchmarking, but my experience could anyway be useful and someone else who bought the mbpr could report with precise benchmarks.
I tried the beginning of the campaign and the video (high) was at 14 fps. In game till the middle of the map was around 27 fps. Then I tried a single player against ai with protoss (textures ultra everything else high). It started at 31 with only the drones and settled at mid twenties with a sentry a stalker and some zealots without moving out of base. I run out of time and anyway that was (not) enough for me.
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So in other words, if you were to play at mid-settings or mid to high-settings at a lower resolution than maxed, the game would run at a perfect 60 fps?
yes it will. the 650m is around the performance of the 460m/560m and 5870m/6870m basically around the performance of a 5770.
the problem is that to drive such a high res, for the game settings he wants it would require a much more powerful gpu, I dont really think that the 7970m or 680m would provide enough power for that task
Sad but true, the retina looks beautiful, but for a semi serious laptop gamer who loves apple like me it is better to stick to the legacy pro...
The 650M has plenty of power to run games at 1680x1050 and once the drivers are released under bootcamp I think I will have the perfect macbook for my needs. Also it seems that the 650M is also pretty overclockable and it should perfom like a 660M with some tweaking.
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Uh nope. The Anand review says the same, ~20 FPS in full res. Not surprising. Not the greatest GPU and an insane resolution = crap performance. Especially since the reviewer was probably playing Act I (easy on the hustle) vs. further acts, more monsters = crappier performance.
So yeah, to get any decent performance, going to have to nerf the resolution a bit to 1440x900 or something, but that's the realistic expectation. Playable FPS is probably a consistent 35+ at minimum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis
how overclockable is still unknown, since the 650m or any of the kepler gpus for mobile out there dont have real drivers, just ones baked for the OEMs. Nvidia still havent launched it.
and apple launched the drivers for bootcamp for the RMBP yesterday.
dont get me wrong the performance increase from the 650 to the 6770m is good. it should be around 20% or more.
The max resolution for OS X and the desktop is 1920x1200. If games support it (as D3 does), you can run them full-screen at 2880x1800.
i would die to know the 3dmar11 score of the new macbook pro retina
mine is :
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3670831
description of my specs on this vid link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQNAiyFdIlI&feature=plcp
mine is :
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3670831
description of my specs on this vid link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQNAiyFdIlI&feature=plcp
Just to add my 2 cents to this post. I have been running diablo 3 maxed out in all settings with the resolution at the third highest setting. Not sure on the exact resolution but it is the third highest one off the top of my head. All other settings are maxed out and it runs smooth as butter on act 3. It is playable at the max resolution but not buttery smooth. This machine is perfectly capable of playing games like d3. Just my personal experience.
Third highest would mean 1920x1200 if I remember correctly.
on a different note, peolpe whats with all the D3 ? who cares! it's all about starcraft 2 !
give me info please!!! This is what I feared. FPS are low because of the amount of pixels the 650m has to work with. Drop it below 1440x then it looks fuzzy and horrible. Increase it above 1440 then due to scaling the FPS is still bad.
These figures of low twenties are floating around numerous places on the web.
It would seem safe to say if you want an enjoyable smooth gaming experience then the non-retina with hires screen is the way to go.....
False. It would be worst for games on the retina MBP. That GPU isn't ideal for such high resolutions. You'll get lower frame rates. You'd either have to lower the settings in order to keep the max resolution, or you'd have to reduce the resolution and lower the other settings (texture quality, shadows, etc etc).
2880x1800 is way higher res than you need for gaming. With movement high res isn't so important.
Halve the res down to 1440x900 and the game will run fine and still look great. Because it is exactly half retina, you won't get the blurry effect from other non-native resolutions. Retina is for reading high resolution text, etc.
Also: turning on AA when playing on a retina screen is pointless. Turn it off. The whole point of anti aliasing is to make jagged pixels smoother, and with retina resolution the pixels are too small to distinguish individually (i.e., there are no aliasing effects you will see even with it turned OFF).
If you DO run in retina native res, try turning AA off. it is not needed.
Halve the res down to 1440x900 and the game will run fine and still look great. Because it is exactly half retina, you won't get the blurry effect from other non-native resolutions. Retina is for reading high resolution text, etc.
Also: turning on AA when playing on a retina screen is pointless. Turn it off. The whole point of anti aliasing is to make jagged pixels smoother, and with retina resolution the pixels are too small to distinguish individually (i.e., there are no aliasing effects you will see even with it turned OFF).
If you DO run in retina native res, try turning AA off. it is not needed.
Im having a problem on Windows with league of legends....
The game is capping me at 31 fps, and I can tell this because no matter where I put the settings, lowest resolution, or highest resolution, it locks me at 31 fps.
My fps lock is set to benchmark, so its not that. My friends 2010 macbook pro runs league at 60 fps, so mine should easily be able to.
Im super confused as to why this is happening. If anyone can shed some light, please let me know.
The game is capping me at 31 fps, and I can tell this because no matter where I put the settings, lowest resolution, or highest resolution, it locks me at 31 fps.
My fps lock is set to benchmark, so its not that. My friends 2010 macbook pro runs league at 60 fps, so mine should easily be able to.
Im super confused as to why this is happening. If anyone can shed some light, please let me know.
Gotta be a drivers issue. Either check Bootcamp for Software Update or NVIDIA. My ancient Intel GMA 950 (Core2Duo integrated) runs LoL 'fine' at 18-30 FPS.
I checked nvidia for drivers it said i had to get it from the manufacturer or some ****....
Also they just updated boot camp with the drivers, so theres nothing new there. I did apple software update and everything. Im so confused....
Its locking at 31 fps and theres gotta be a setting thats doing it.
Also they just updated boot camp with the drivers, so theres nothing new there. I did apple software update and everything. Im so confused....
Its locking at 31 fps and theres gotta be a setting thats doing it.
Aren't there a setting in the league of Legends options that locks your fps at 30 or at 60, I think I remember seeing that. Always wondered why the option of 30 was there but hey.. I don't really play LoL. but you should def go through "advanced options" in LoL if thats an option.
take a look here
he means at the same resolution, that is pretty much clear.
That's cause I would like to keep at least the same settings that I am able to keep on my current macbook (early 2011 hi-res 15"). To upgrade my macbook and have to lower the settings of the games I spend most of my gaming time with would be pretty disappointing.
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The problem was that I had Windows set to balance. When I changed it to performance, I was getting over 300 fps on high everything.
I kind of dont like that it has to be on performance to do that though.... Couldnt see a custom option in balanced for the graphics
I kind of dont like that it has to be on performance to do that though.... Couldnt see a custom option in balanced for the graphics