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These people are still trying to get some attention aren't they? I'm getting pretty annoyed with their nonsensical, clumsy and security-retarded payment system being mentioned. I expect to hear nothing more from them in a month.
 
Come on. How do you think Apple is making money off of Apple pay? Normally, mobile payments cost a few percentage more than credit cards for merchants (thats why they don't like mobile payments). Now, whats happening is that banks are getting the normal rate for credit cards. Apple gets the rest that would make up for mobile payments. Merchants would pay the same rate for mobile payments which is higher than just using a credit card. Thats why they want their own mobile payment system. If Apple pay picks up, they lose money. Why would merchants want that? Do a little thinking.

This person is just a troll. Plain and simple. Everybody move on. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
..and try to click on a link.. you're required to enter your zip code prior to simply looking at the website :confused:

It's not anywhere close to the same thing. A ZIP is required to be able to see what is offered in that area (most US service providers ask for a ZIP code so they can actually offer to you the services they actually do/don't provide for that area) and it's not like they don't have most people's rough location anyway based on their IP address (entering a ZIP is actually beneficial, since it lets you look at location based services different then the IP address you're connecting from).

It's a far cry from an actual address, credit card number, bank account info or even a phone number. Unless you live in your own ZIP code its pretty hard to identify someone from that alone.
 
i was assuming they would stop accepting credit cards

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yeah that's what i was assuming.

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i think that was their initial intentions, but as they grew with more participants, they were asking for more than just removing credit cards. they want the big data.

There's zero chance any mass retailer stops accepting credit cards for a decade or two at least.
 
Does being on a "big boy's" home page really convince people they need to use Apple Pay?


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heh.. ok. if you don't realize how significant it is to be in bed with jpmorgan, especially in regards to moving cash around the planet and back up the chain then so be it.. i don't really care that much despite what my posts may imply.

but i will add this.. this whole argument about MCX vs :apple:pay is pretty meaningless.. applepay will definitely succeed.. j.p.morgan strongly backs it and believe it or not, what they say-> goes.

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It's not anywhere close to the same thing. A ZIP is required to be able to see what is offered in that area (most US service providers ask for a ZIP code so they can actually offer to you the services they actually do/don't provide for that area) and it's not like they don't have most people's rough location anyway based on their IP address (entering a ZIP is actually beneficial, since it lets you look at location based services different then the IP address you're connecting from).

It's a far cry from an actual address, credit card number, bank account info or even a phone number. Unless you live in your own ZIP code its pretty hard to identify someone from that alone.

i think you kinda missed my point and/or the tone(?) i was saying it from.
it's not worth re-saying/explaining though.
 
it's like people think money is natural.

it's not.. there are people on our planet who actually make the money.. these people are the 1% of the 1% of the one percent.. they don't show up on 'the worlds richest man contest'.. their success(?) isn't measured in how much money they earn in a year.. they actually create the money and are in control of all of it.. all of apple's record profits?? those are owed to a bank..

the bank makes the money then they loan it out (with interest- but that's a separate topic).. all money which is ever created is owed to the bank.. how much money do these people make in a year? all of it.. do you understand?


jpmorgan is this person.. jpmorgan loves applepay.. it's going to make a one world currency much easier to implement.
 
it's like people think money is natural.

it's not.. there are people on our planet who actually make the money.. these people are the 1% of the 1% of the one percent.. they don't show up on 'the worlds richest man contest'.. their success(?) isn't measured in how much money they earn in a year.. they actually create the money and are in control of all of it.. all of apple's record profits?? those are owed to a bank..

the bank makes the money then they loan it out (with interest- but that's a separate topic).. all money which is ever created is owed to the bank.. how much money do these people make in a year? all of it.. do you understand?


jpmorgan is this person.. jpmorgan loves applepay.. it's going to make a one world currency much easier to implement.

Yeah! This is the stuff that silences the hubbub.
 
I don't know a single service that its easier to use cash - if the server was £5 and I had exactly £5 notes then it would apply as I could hand it striaght over... but id still have to carry these notes somewhere and the above scenario is very very unlikely.

I like my super slim, Supr wallet which enables me to carry 4 cards and nothing else in my pocket. Id hate change clogging up and banging on my phone.

Well, I have one of these fancy wallets which has room for cash and I normally keep my wallet in a separate pocket anyway (why don't you just get a phone case which can hold the cards?).

I think it depends on circumstances but for example of the top of my head, ordering a take away delivery over the phone, since you have to read out the number/details (which could also be a security concern) compared to just giving them £20 (if they accept card at all).

In some cases I also have no choice e.g
1) Taxis (at least where I live).
2) The bus- there's no oyster style system for the ticket I want (the latter I do use when in London).
3) Any shop without a card reader.

Even if everywhere accepted card, I would still make sure to have some cash in case something goes wrong (as has happened).
 
How different is the linking of a checking account or credit card to companies like Amazon 1-Click which have done this for years? Excluding SSN here.

Keep in mind I am not supporting MCX in any way as I think Apple Pay sounds a great system and look forward to getting it in the UK.
 
So I wonder, since their exclusivity deals block ApplePay/Google Wallet/any other NFC mobile payments, what's keeping Apple, Google and Microsoft from just denying their app entry into their app stores? Would that open them up to lawsuit for anticompetitive behavior? It seems like that street could run both ways.

Honestly, Apple will be better served by allowing the CurrentC app in their store and simply letting it fail of its own accord.
 
No. You're being attacked for coming up with a convenient and secure payment solution that is neither convenient or secure. Its ****.
 
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This is a fight in which there can only be one winner, MCX are just drawing out the inevitable...

There can be only one.....

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And this in today from the the CEO of MCX's CurrentC;

In a virtual press conference today, MCX‘s CEO Dekkers Davidson said “We’re agnostic about technology. We started with QR code-based technology that allows us to go to market broadly. If we need, we can pivot to NFC.” That means if retailers strongly prefer the NFC system used by Apple Pay to MCX’s mobile payment app CurrentC’s QR code system, CurrentC could switch to the more popular and graceful near field communication protocol. Davidson noted that MCX is working with retailers on “other technology that goes beyond QR codes” already. And specifically, MCX merchants are excited about Bluetooth Low-Energy solutions.

So what I hear is they've spent 3 years developing QR codes but if retailers don't like it hey've got them pretty excited about LBTE and if that doesn't work and they want they can do NFC. Yes it's taken 3 years to get to where they are now so each of these stages should take some years but whats great about our system is we're not agnostic about technology. We can do anything! That's why we're so excited. Of course if we go NFC we will have to enable all the machines again and have them not recognise Apple and Google to protect our customers.

I love how Dekkers & Co don't have a product in the market but are already promising two new and different technology options. Like that suddenly means all is well.





Dekkers needs a spin doctor whoc
 
I am fairly sure the 1000+ (99.5%) 1 star reviews are not because they are being attacked because of Apple Pay. It's because their implementation is shoddy and plain does not work. Most of them are before Apple Pay was even launched.
 
it's like people think money is natural.

it's not.. there are people on our planet who actually make the money.. these people are the 1% of the 1% of the one percent.. they don't show up on 'the worlds richest man contest'.. their success(?) isn't measured in how much money they earn in a year.. they actually create the money and are in control of all of it.. all of apple's record profits?? those are owed to a bank..

the bank makes the money then they loan it out (with interest- but that's a separate topic).. all money which is ever created is owed to the bank.. how much money do these people make in a year? all of it.. do you understand?


jpmorgan is this person.. jpmorgan loves applepay.. it's going to make a one world currency much easier to implement.

Donning my tinfoil hat :rolleyes:
 
Credit card companies have this kind of info.

Not my current bank account number, and the one that I pay them from.

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Mother's maiden name,
Street name you grew up on,
First Pet's name,
Elementary School Name,
Make/Model of your first car.

Just to name a few. They'll need these to get into the rest of your accounts.

That's about all they need to open credit cards, or better yet, another CurrentC account and drain my account dry.
 
Really, Status Quo? QR Codes were the status quo like 10 years ago. We've moved on since then. This is so MCX can make consumer data trafficking a lot easier.

MCX is the gift that keeps on giving.

Very well put!
 
For the same reasons people use cards instead of cash? I can't remember the last time I used cash for anything other than tipping, exchanging money with individuals, or at ATMs.

So you only ever use ATMs to get money for tipping and exchanging with individuals? :confused:
 
Anything that gets both iPhone and Android users to unite against it is Dead in the water.

They need to just pull the plug now and cut their losses.
 
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