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Mainly the problem is my main HDD is a 160GB WDC SATA 1 HDD used on a SATA to IDE adapter, however the drive is on-and off detected while mounted in the sled by the CPU but works perfectly fine if laid on top of the CPU heatsink the drive in the front under the ODD prevents the door from closing.

This makes very little sense to me. Are you saying the drive doesn't work when mounted in a vertical position using the bracket?
 
Agree - orientation of the drive should make no difference.
Maybe it's a mechanical problem with that particular hard drive.
Try a different hard drive.
 
I was just wondering if any of you happen to know the clearance area between the following:

CPU heatsink and main fan
CPU Heatsink and rear HDD cage (whith 2 drives)
Top of GeForce 4 MX and PSU

seems i cannot find the specific internal clearance measurements.

Reason I ask is i was wondering if it were possible to put a Hard drive on top of the PSU and have enought clearance with the GPU for the door to close.

Ok, so I happen to have an MDD in my parts closet that doesn't have an optical drive cage installed, so I can look into the top drive slot and see several of the clearances you looking for.

The top edge of an AGP card is only about 1/16" from the front of the power supply. Maybe less. It was a 9700 Pro, but the top edge of all the cards line up the same.

The top edge of the heatsink (thin slatted one for the 1.25 dual processor) is about 1/2" from the front of the hard drive sled.

The same heatsink is about 1/8" from the face of the large fan. I can observe that space when opening/closing the door.

I'm not trying to encourage you to try this, but these are the approximate numbers you were asking for.
 
I would highly recommend against this. The PSU can and will get very hot, thus ruining the performance of the HDD greatly. Also, magnets to hold it in will completely destroy your hard drive, being that the mechanical heads are moved by ultra powerful magnets.

The PSU would not get very hot. The PSU has a fan. Even without the fan the PSU housing only gets warm.

The thing you gotta worry about is the CPU and GPU... they make the heat. DOn't mount your HD right next to your GPU or CPU.
 
I'm guessing you don't own an MDD.

MDD PSU's get very hot?! On the outside?! :eek: That's very bad! if it's really hot on the outside then the insides must be melting! Usually the outside only gets warm, not hot!

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Ok, so I happen to have an MDD in my parts closet that doesn't have an optical drive cage installed, so I can look into the top drive slot and see several of the clearances you looking for.

The top edge of an AGP card is only about 1/16" from the front of the power supply. Maybe less. It was a 9700 Pro, but the top edge of all the cards line up the same.

The top edge of the heatsink (thin slatted one for the 1.25 dual processor) is about 1/2" from the front of the hard drive sled.

The same heatsink is about 1/8" from the face of the large fan. I can observe that space when opening/closing the door.

I'm not trying to encourage you to try this, but these are the approximate numbers you were asking for.

Finally someone who answered his question instead of fudging up his thread!
 
The PSU would not get very hot. The PSU has a fan. Even without the fan the PSU housing only gets warm.

The thing you gotta worry about is the CPU and GPU... they make the heat. DOn't mount your HD right next to your GPU or CPU.

trust me a MDDs PSU gets Nice and warm when going for some time and kick out a lot of hot air keeps you warm in the winter when the central heating decides to die (theres a reason they like to die LOL) I wouldn't recommend strapping a HDD to one...
 
trust me a MDDs PSU gets Nice and warm when going for some time and kick out a lot of hot air keeps you warm in the winter when the central heating decides to die (theres a reason they like to die LOL) I wouldn't recommend strapping a HDD to one...

Ok so they just get warm... I thought their enclosures get so hot you can't touch it :p
 
trust me a MDDs PSU gets Nice and warm when going for some time and kick out a lot of hot air keeps you warm in the winter when the central heating decides to die (theres a reason they like to die LOL) I wouldn't recommend strapping a HDD to one...

When we had days this past winter where the temperature only glanced by 0ºF, I was really appreciative of having a few computers to keep things warm.

We have a heat pump, but it doesn't work at temperatures that cold. Instead, the furnace kicks on an electric heating coil(basically a giant space heater) that makes the power company very happy. The winter power bills were about 150% their normal amount, even with the thermostat set to 62ºF.

What I wouldn't give for gas heat-like my parents have.
 
When we had days this past winter where the temperature only glanced by 0ºF, I was really appreciative of having a few computers to keep things warm.
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Second, one year my furnace went out and I heated my room using an overclocked ivy bridge i5. I put a blanket over the computer and me then cranked VCore up to the maximum safe value, it was quite nice.

Needless to say, these are pre-80+ power supplies, if it is warm with the fan just imagine how warm it will get with the fan obscured. The only power supplies I have seen that can run fanless and deliver computer level power are the 80+ platinum supplies.

Matthew, rather than sticking a sixth HDD into your MDD, why don't you just buy one 1Tb drive and replace most of the other ones. I understand the purists who don't want to have non-authentic hardware but between wanting to mount an HDD on your PSU with magnets, grounding your power supply to the CPU cooler and many other posts, I imagine that doesn't concern you. Sure it will be slow on SATA1, but 1 drive beats six strapped to the inside of your case with velcro, gum or magnets.
 
When we had days this past winter where the temperature only glanced by 0ºF, I was really appreciative of having a few computers to keep things warm.

We have a heat pump, but it doesn't work at temperatures that cold. Instead, the furnace kicks on an electric heating coil(basically a giant space heater) that makes the power company very happy. The winter power bills were about 150% their normal amount, even with the thermostat set to 62ºF.

What I wouldn't give for gas heat-like my parents have.
We have the opposite of you in Phoenix. The summer months make APS and SRP very happy.

So, happy in fact that two years ago they decided to rejigger the rate schedule so that summer rates apply from June to July and summer maximum rates apply from August to September. Those last two months are the absolute hottest months in Phoenix.

Guess which two months have the highest rates?

You learn to live with the thermostat at 80 or 82º when the electric bill is north of $300.
 
Matthew, rather than sticking a sixth HDD into your MDD, why don't you just buy one 1Tb drive and replace most of the other ones. I understand the purists who don't want to have non-authentic hardware but between wanting to mount an HDD on your PSU with magnets, grounding your power supply to the CPU cooler and many other posts, I imagine that doesn't concern you. Sure it will be slow on SATA1, but 1 drive beats six strapped to the inside of your case with velcro, gum or magnets.

gum LOL mounting a hard drive WITH GUM HAHAHAHA!! xD
 
Magnets, no matter how strong or weak you perceive them, in direct contact with a hard drive is an atrocious idea. Let's not forget that the data is stored magnetically and that data can be corrected by weak environmental/cosmic electromagnetic disturbances. Magnets are literally the worst decision in my book. Gum or fecal matter at least wouldn't run the potential of destroying your data.

I don't think putting a 6th hard drive above the PSU is a great idea either, just knowing how much heat these things create. I second the opinion of spending $50 or so on a 1TB drive or finding one on craigslist for a few bucks.

I would suggest your best bet is removing one of your numerous hard drives and trying to put it where you want it to go. I'd imagine most people don't know the measurements off the top of their heads.

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these are those weak-ass fridge magnets. that have a sticky adheasive one one side, They wont harm a Hard drive at all, they are simply not strong enough. I used the same kind of magnet to put a Wireless mouse reciever inside a computer case and they were too weak to even hold THAT up.

If it's too weak to hold a wireless receiver why would you use it to hold a Hard Drive? I imagine proximity to the hard drive and length of stay is something you might also want to consider.
 
Hey MatthewLTL is in time-out again... I didn't see him do anything wrong... :confused: If anything, you all people did because you completely screwed up each of his threads by derailing it extremely off-topic and bashing him... so why is he punished?
 
Hey MatthewLTL is in time-out again... I didn't see him do anything wrong... :confused: If anything, you all people did because you completely screwed up each of his threads by derailing it extremely off-topic and bashing him... so why is he punished?

First, if your solution to your hard drive mounting problem is that you need to attach a HDD to your power supply with magnets, you are going to get some 'bashing'. Second, I don't see much bashing in this thread, just honest criticism of an absurdly bad idea, itself a byproduct of some rather creative thinking. It was pointed out why it was a bad idea and alternatives were offered. I don't know why he would get in trouble, you're allowed to have bad ideas.

But back to the original thread, given that you have had hard drive problems with this machine before, I think that making the system overall less complex by reducing the number of drives is the best option. What is the overall total hard drive capacity of the system? Is this machine your primary computer or a fun machine? The reason being is that if it is your primary machine then going with a more modern single drive is more imperative.
 
First, if your solution to your hard drive mounting problem is that you need to attach a HDD to your power supply with magnets, you are going to get some 'bashing'. Second, I don't see much bashing in this thread, just honest criticism of an absurdly bad idea, itself a byproduct of some rather creative thinking. It was pointed out why it was a bad idea and alternatives were offered. I don't know why he would get in trouble, you're allowed to have bad ideas.

Well not only in this thread... every thread Matthew makes has been farked up and completely derailed with you bashing Matthew because he said something stupid... Really it's getting ridiculous you people.
 
Hey MatthewLTL is in time-out again... I didn't see him do anything wrong... :confused: If anything, you all people did because you completely screwed up each of his threads by derailing it extremely off-topic and bashing him... so why is he punished?

I didn't see anything in this thread, but perhaps it could be something that happened behind the scenes. It may not even occurred in this thread and it may have already been deleted.

I'm sure the Mods have their reasoning.
 
Well not only in this thread... every thread Matthew makes has been farked up and completely derailed with you bashing Matthew because he said something stupid... Really it's getting ridiculous you people.
If you want to know…why don't you ask the MODS?

We know as much as you do. Which is nothing. Maybe he did something else that has nothing to do with this.
 
Just a note that under our privacy policy we can't discuss the moderation of other members.

Also, magnets?! :eek:
 
Just a note that under our privacy policy we can't discuss the moderation of other members.

Also, magnets?! :eek:


Even the mods agree that your out of your mind... :D

And I understand about the privacy policy. I'll make sure not to mention it anymore...
 
Ok so lets get this train back on the rail... but is there still a rail to get back on to? Has the question already been answered? There was an answer but has it satisfied the OP? But matthew is locked so he cannot reply or resolve this... so uh what do we do? :confused: I guess we just abandon the thread...
 
Hey MatthewLTL is in time-out again... I didn't see him do anything wrong... :confused: If anything, you all people did because you completely screwed up each of his threads by derailing it extremely off-topic and bashing him... so why is he punished?

In another thread, multiple people went off the rails. That part of the thread was deleted later, and now M-LTL is in time-out. I'm not a mod, and I didn't read the whole off-the-rails thread, but M-LTL was definitely acting out in that thread in the posts I saw before they were deleted.


P.S. If I were a mod, I'd remove all the posts in *THIS* thread that discuss the moderation (including this one of my own,) as off-topic...
 
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