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I prefer FW because I can boot from it. That's a sad loss. But USB2 speed isn't all that bad, and I'm sure Apple's right that VERY few iPod owners care.

After the move to x86, I'll bet we see support for booting from USB.
 
wrxguy said:
anyone else kinda disapointed about no powerbook updates?
i´m very disapointed.
i need a laptop because i´m travelling a lot.
mine is too old now.
i will buy one in mid november.
i hope it´ll be an updated powerbook.
if not, good bye apple!! :mad:
 
1984 said:
I'm surprised Battelstar Galactica isn't featured. They've had directors commentary Podcasts for the show and even officially released a couple episodes on Bittorrent.

Notice how the 5 shows offered so far are all part of the Disney family?

Maybe U2 will be back with an iPod nano along with the Modonna one next month. They just need to learn how to sign their names really small.

I want Battlestar Galactica, Boston Legal, and Stargate available. Oh, and episodes of the Practice would be good too......
 
I'm not sure if it's been noted yet but probably the best use of the new iPod video is porn. Just think about all of the 3rd party "accessories" and of course the iCondom. ;) Definitely choose the black iPod for porn unless you like the virginal types.
 
Sorry if this has already been asked...
but is there any way to actually put a full movie onto the iPod? Such as downloading them onto your computer from a DVD or downloading a full movie from itunes, I watched the special event stream, but don't think it was ever mentioned.
 
1984 said:
It's not H.264 that is to blame. It's the low bitrate they are using.
The bit rate isn't that low for 320 x 240 H.264. It's the combination of this modest bitrate and the low 320 x 240 resolution that is the problem. Look at Apple's 848 x 480 HD movie trailers and you'll see that they run at about 3Mbps (some a little lower, some a little higher for 24fps 480p HD).

Now consider that 848 x 480 has over five times the resolution of a 320 x 240 video. Now, the iTMS 320 x 240 videos seem to run at about 650Kbps which is just about one fifth of the 480p HD so the compression rate really isn't that much different although you'd have to factor in the difference in the frame rates (24fps for the HD but 30fps for most of the iTMS videos) and the fact that both are using 128Kbps AAC audio.

The exact conversion when factoring in the frame rates and the 128Kbps AAC audio would be: ((3.0Mbps - 0.128Mbps) / (848 x 480)) x (320 x 240) x (30 / 24) = 0.677Mbps + 0.128Mbps = 0.81Mbps = 810Kbps (video and AAC audio).

However, if you drop the frame rate difference and just look at the raw bits per second it comes out to 670Kbps which is darn close to the 650Kbps that is used on the iTMS. Thus, I don't think the bit rate is really the problem, it's more likely the low 320 x 240 resolution. FWIW.
 
johannes said:
3-5 day shipping on powermacs at the apple store... hmmm...

I'm in the market for a Mac Mini, and was hoping for official news of the upgrade today.. but oh well :)

What's unusual though, is that the apple store lists a brand new mini (the high end one, 1.42, 512, SD etc) as shipping in 24 hours, but the refurbished top end mini (same configuration) is listed as 3-5 days! I don't get that.

Here's hoping for a formal announcement for the new minis soon! (As I've just ordered a Dell 20.1" wide-screen to go with it already!! :D :D )
 
fpnc said:
However, if you drop the frame rate difference and just look at the raw bits per second it comes out to 670Kbps which is darn close to the 650Kbps that is used on the iTMS. Thus, I don't think the bit rate is really the problem, it's more likely the low 320 x 240 resolution. FWIW.


Does anyone know how the quality compares to say a TV episode being made available on the torrents. The reason I ask is I am wondering if offering TVs online will reduce TV piracy some - but I need to know how the quality compares.
 
fpnc said:
The bit rate isn't that low for 320 x 240 H.264. It's the combination of this modest bitrate and the low 320 x 240 resolution that is the problem. Look at Apple's 848 x 480 HD movie trailers and you'll see that they run at about 3Mbps (some a little lower, some a little higher for 24fps 480p HD).

Now consider that 848 x 480 has over five times the resolution of a 320 x 240 video. Now, the iTMS 320 x 240 videos seem to run at about 650Kbps which is just about one fifth of the 480p HD so the compression rate really isn't that much different although you'd have to factor in the difference in the frame rates (24fps for the HD but 30fps for most of the iTMS videos) and the fact that both are using 128Kbps AAC audio.

The exact conversion when factoring in the frame rates and the 128Kbps AAC audio would be: ((3.0Mbps - 0.128Mbps) / (848 x 480)) x (320 x 240) x (30 / 24) = 0.677Mbps + 0.128Mbps = 0.81Mbps = 810Kbps (video and AAC audio).

However, if you drop the frame rate difference and just look at the raw bits per second it comes out to 670Kbps which is darn close to the 650Kbps that is used on the iTMS. Thus, I don't think the bit rate is really the problem, it's more likely the low 320 x 240 resolution. FWIW.
Likewise they should have used a better H.264 encoder. Ateme currently has the best publically available encoder. That's what most enthusiasts use although Xvid and X.264 are often more popular for stuff you find on BT.
 
EricNau said:
Sorry if this has already been asked...
but is there any way to actually put a full movie onto the iPod? Such as downloading them onto your computer from a DVD or downloading a full movie from itunes, I watched the special event stream, but don't think it was ever mentioned.
It would have to be converted to the 320 x 240 H.264 format that the iPod supports. So, yes, given this low resolution you could put a full length movie on the iPod. However, it could take you several hours to do the H.264 recompression (probably less on a fast G5 system).
 
Did anyone else notice that ALL the powermac's ship times went to 3-5 days from 24 hours. Hmmm, maybe this means new powermac's tomorrow. LOL!
 
aswitcher said:
Does anyone know how the quality compares to say a TV episode being made available on the torrents. The reason I ask is I am wondering if offering TVs online will reduce TV piracy some - but I need to know how the quality compares.

It's not even close. Nearly all shows are at least 640x480 or 720x480 and a lot of them are in high definition and widescreen. I got a rip of the superbowl that looks amazing on my HDTV.

Besides, the iTMS didn't reduce piracy at all nor did shutting down Napster. People just moved to Kazza and considering that most music pirates are rather non-techie people that's saying something. People who download TV shows are usually much more technically inclined and would probably pirate them even if a really great movie store popped up.
 
Originally Posted by fpnc
It would have to be converted to the 320 x 240 H.264 format that the iPod supports. So, yes, given this low resolution you could put a full length movie on the iPod. However, it could take you several hours to do the H.264 recompression (probably less on a fast G5 system).
So Apple doesn't really support a way of doing it?
So how would I do this, what program do I need? And most of all, is it legal? I thinking if it was, Apple would of made it really easy to do, like hitting an "import movie from DVD" button in iTunes.
In my oppinion this got rid of most of the usefulness of having Video on iPods.
 
BGil said:
Likewise they should have used a better H.264 encoder. Ateme currently has the best publically available encoder. That's what most enthusiasts use although Xvid and X.264 are often more popular for stuff you find on BT.
Can you provide a creditable reference that proves that the Ateme encoder is better than what Apple can produce on the Macintosh platform? I wouldn't argue that Apple's H.264 encoder is the best, but what makes you believe that Ateme is so much better that you'd be likely to see any significant difference?
 
EricNau said:
So Apple doesn't really support a way of doing it?
So how would I do this, what program do I need? And most of all, is it legal? I thinking if it was, Apple would of made it really easy to do, like hitting an "import movie from DVD" button in iTunes.
In my oppinion this got rid of most of the usefulness of having Video on iPods.
No, it isn't legal (in the U.S.) to copy commercial (encrypted) DVDs. So, Apple doesn't provide button to "import movie from DVD."
 
ericdano said:
I want Battlestar Galactica, Boston Legal, and Stargate available. Oh, and episodes of the Practice would be good too......

Battlestar Galactica (best show on tv!), Family Guy, Justice League, old Simpsons (Mr. Plow era), and Daily Show are my big ones.

Possibly My Name is Earl.

Yes, I know several of those are 30 minute shows and one of those is daily. If they're on fire one night I may be eager to save those hilarious moments forever.
 
ddrueckhammer said:
It is possible to download a show before it is finished broadcasting in LA if you live in New York for an HD file.

What does that mean? Who lives in New York for an HD file? It seems a rather silly reason for moving to New York, even if it worked. Do you get to choose what HD file you live for?
 
VicMacs said:
a beatles ipod would be the huge one

All the mini's colors could be used for special editions.

I've been thinking that a green nano would be appropriate for the Beatles. http://www.applecorps.com ;)

Maybe an Elvis nano in blue [suede shoes]?

Supposedly a Madonna special edition is already planned in pink.

Serioulsy I wish that iTMS and the Beatles would settle their disputes once and for all.

B
 
berkowit28 said:
What does that mean? Who lives in New York for an HD file? It seems a rather silly reason for moving to New York, even if it worked. Do you get to choose what HD file you live for?

I was just pointing out that with people who have broadband (Most of the people who would download video online) you can download an episode of a TV show at much better quality than what Apple is offering in a couple of hours or before it is finished airing on the opposite coast. I could have easily chosen Atlanta and Seattle...I think that maybe we don't all need to spend 2-4 hours downloading an episode of our favorite TV show in HD but there has to be some compromise in quality/spead of download.
 
balamw said:
Serioulsy I wish that iTMS and the Beatles would settle their disputes once and for all.

B


Just remember who has the rights to the beatles music....Micheal Jackson. Yup, non other than the weirdness himself. so maybe send in a little boy that would sub-consiously keep saying.... beatles on itunes...beatles on itunes.. and maybe it might happen
:rolleyes:
 
What I want to see in a mac mini/ front row set top (no monitor, just plug into your TV:
-TV TUNER!
-Some kind of integration w/ Dashboard (i.e. an overlay for Front Row where you can arrange some widgets around the edges of the screen - great for news tickers, weather updates, stock info, etc.) where you could activated it with a button on the remote, and deactivate it just as quickly.
-A Front Row version of Safari
-A Front Row version of Mail (toggleable notification of new incoming mail)
-Integration of iCal alerts w/ Front Row
-Integration w/ bluetooth cell phones in Front Row (i.e. it displays incoming caller on your tv - shows their pic from the caller's info in Address Book like bluephoneelite or whatever it's called).
-Integration w/ iChat AV (i.e. you're watching tv and you get an incoming video chat request box in the corner), and a built in iSight that you can orient to your favorite TV chair and zoom in.
-wireless networkability w/ your "main" mac in the home.
-a "don't disturb mode" where all of the alerts and stuff that I've just mentioned are temporarily deactivated until you reactivate it.
-5.1 Surround sound support
-Doesn't have to be quite so "mini"
-and of course access to a huge content library, maybe with an unlimited use for a monthly fee associated with video/movie content (I think this model works better w/ video than it does w/ music as there are many shows or movies we don't want to own, just watch once or twice.

Could all this be done for a relatively cheap price (i.e. sub $600 box, preferably closer to $300)? Is this the kind of stuff you all would want in a perfect world?
 
GorillaPaws said:
What I want to see in a mac mini/ front row set top (no monitor, just plug into your TV:
-TV TUNER!
-Some kind of integration w/ Dashboard (i.e. an overlay for Front Row where you can arrange some widgets around the edges of the screen - great for news tickers, weather updates, stock info, etc.) where you could activated it with a button on the remote, and deactivate it just as quickly.
-A Front Row version of Safari
-A Front Row version of Mail (toggleable notification of new incoming mail)
-Integration of iCal alerts w/ Front Row
-Integration w/ bluetooth cell phones in Front Row (i.e. it displays incoming caller on your tv - shows their pic from the caller's info in Address Book like bluephoneelite or whatever it's called).
-Integration w/ iChat AV (i.e. you're watching tv and you get an incoming video chat request box in the corner), and a built in iSight that you can orient to your favorite TV chair and zoom in.
-wireless networkability w/ your "main" mac in the home.
-a "don't disturb mode" where all of the alerts and stuff that I've just mentioned are temporarily deactivated until you reactivate it.
-5.1 Surround sound support
-Doesn't have to be quite so "mini"
-and of course access to a huge content library, maybe with an unlimited use for a monthly fee associated with video/movie content (I think this model works better w/ video than it does w/ music as there are many shows or movies we don't want to own, just watch once or twice.

Could all this be done for a relatively cheap price (i.e. sub $600 box, preferably closer to $300)? Is this the kind of stuff you all would want in a perfect world?

This sounds really cool but I think I would just as soon use my home theater setup as is and either get an apple branded DVR or a new airport express that streamed video to my TV. Combine that with a ITMS that does movie/tv rentals (they would delete themselves I guess) for $3.99 for a 800x600 MPEG encoded in H264 and now you are talking. I think it would be more exciting and economical to be able to download Movies and TV from an online store and just stream it to my existing setup than to have a Mac HTPC. But to each his own I guess.
 
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