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EvilMole said:
Interesting definition of "not being able to do anything with them". With a Media Center/PMC combination you can record any program you like, in a non-copyprotected format. You can watch it, transfer it to a portable device, burn it to CD and/or DVD. I wouldn't call any of that "not being able to do anything", would you?

My definition of "not being able to do anything with them" was referring to download media content, not just recording what comes over. Never before has the idea of video / TV / movies on demand looked so promising as it does right now. I mean no offense to the other products, but they were hampered by the inability to get content online, whereas that barrier is about to be blown away!
 
BONO RECOMMENDATIONS

Did anybody notice when Jobs displayed the new Customer Reviews feature in Itunes, the guys name doing the Review on screen was Paul Hewson - more commonly known as Bono!
 
As usual, Apple didn't take ANY of my advice. Bah, humbug. ;)

More seriously, this is the first iTunes update that cannot be taken advantage of by Jaguar users as the Quicktime requirements are too high. I'm disappointed as my living room Mac is... a (heavily upgraded) Beige G3. (G4, Radeon, etc) Whether it'd have had the processing power to play the movies is, of course, open to question anyway, but it'd have been nice to try.

No plans to upgrade soon, I bought a house recently so no longer have such things as "disposable income".

I think the idea of selling TV shows for $2 each is a great one. I'd rather buy the shows I want than subscribe to cable. We might even see a huge quality improvement, and I suspect once the producers "get it" that people want to buy programs rather than "watch" something interrupted by ads every few minutes, we might even see a broadening of the TV-show-on-DVD market. I suspect the fact that that's been happening to a certain extent anyway is probably a major reason Jobs is willing to dip a toe in this water.

I still think the video iPod is pointless, but, oh-well. I'm sure my next iPod will be flash based anyway. There's no 10G version right now of the nano, but on the other hand, see previous comment about disposable income.
 
Truffy said:
Or "Fooled ya!" :D

Yes, I'm missing something in the 'wowzers' stakes too. :(

I'm thinking ( hoping ) we're going to be seeing those red curtains and/or the "One More Thing" theme a couple more times before the holiday season reaches it's peak.
 
jholzner said:
Yep, and the iTrip was released yesterday that will work with the new iPods...that's what I call fast! Only problem I see is that you can't charge it in your car while your using it so on long road trips that can be a problem.
It has a USB mini-port on it. I bet a charging cable is on the way! (And there are other FM transmitters that have built-in car chargers.)


sfhc21 said:
Yep. But I think the iPod should handle videos the way it does photos...convert the videos to the proper size before it gets transfered onto the iPod. Then allow the option to include the full-res version. The iPod itself plays the converted 320x240 version. But if playing to a TV, it plays the 720x480 version. And on your computer, you can watch the full-res version as well...and hopefully one day be able to stream it to your TV.
I thought the same thing, but someone said that that kind of conversion takes a long time even for a fast computer. So that means you'd have to download both sizes to begin with--and THAT means a download 5 x the size that videos currently are, taking 5 x as long and occupying 5 x as much space on your computer and iPod. I can see Apple's catch-22 here. Technology will catch up, though. For one thing, a single chip might be able to scale (some) video formats to 1/4 on-the-fly right on the iPod. After all, it's not the scaling that's tough (a Mac can scale video up or down instantly--try Exposé!), it's the re-compressing and saving the new version. Skip that step and you no longer need two versions at all.

(Also, content owners may have pushed for lower quality, but that too will evolve).


mheidt said:
The resolution of the iMac isn't 1920x1080.
So where is the point for an iMac, especially because digital streaming resolution beneath HDTV really sucks and cannot replace the traditional TV.
The point is that an iMac now does some cool new things--it's not MEANT to replace TV. Any more than iTunes is meant to replace your stereo. For some people it can, but it's useful just by itself. (I'm thinking dorm rooms are the perfect home for an iMac.)


Butts M Biggilo said:
Well.. The new iMac looks awesome and provides great upgrades, but that ipod is sad, sad, sad.
Shame how Apple increased the capacity, added a bigger screen, boosted the recording quality, introduced new features including video, added another color choice, added a wireless remote option, and still managed to make the whole thing thinner and smaller than the old one.

Without raising the price. Sad. ;)


swingerofbirch said:
So much for the year of HD!
The year of HD referred to consumers being able to create HD content for the first time. That promise was answered the moment it was made--with iMovie HD and prosumer HD camcorders from Sony. Those things really DID happen.
 
Don't hold your breath!

Peace said:
I'm thinking ( hoping ) we're going to be seeing those red curtains and/or the "One More Thing" theme a couple more times before the holiday season reaches it's peak.

18 days until the official start of the holiday season.

7448 still isn't available.

What else would warrant another media event?

When they announce 'That's So Raven' is available through itunes?
 
Originally Posted by 840quadra
groovebuster said:
840quadra said:
Speaking of which, my German made Siemens phone has features that only work in Europe, and not the US.
For example?
David Hasselhoff ring tones. :p

(be happy they only work in Germany)
 
igetbanned said:
18 days until the official start of the holiday season.

7448 still isn't available.

What else would warrant another media event?

When they announce 'That's So Raven' is available through itunes?

If you watched Job's presentation you will note toward the end he says :

"Wait till you see the rest of the stuff we have for the holiday season"

Most folks have overlooked this little statement.
 
Peace said:
If you watched Job's presentation you will note toward the end he says :

"Wait till you see the rest of the stuff we have for the holiday season"

Most folks have overlooked this little statement.

Exactly. And it would be pretty stupid to limit Front Row and that new remote to the new iMac and the new iPod only.

There's still hope (and a better one, given Front Row and that remote) for some set-top box solution from Apple.
 
Peace said:
If you watched Job's presentation you will note toward the end he says :

"Wait till you see the rest of the stuff we have for the holiday season"

Most folks have overlooked this little statement.
Some people don't like Steve Jobs for the way he introduces items, etc. Mostly because those people don't get what THEY are hoping for, when They are hoping for it. Steve knows Apple. Steve knows business. Steve knows very well how to market his business. $1.3 billion in PROFITS in the last fiscal year. I love the way he drops in lines like "Wait until you see ...", etc. It keeps us all talking and wondering and hoping, and that is the best form of marketing you can get from a loyal customer base, and all of the commotion gets the attention of many not within the customer base and draws them in. In the hype, hoopla, excitement and disappointment, statements like "Wait until you see ..." are often overlooked by most. Apple is not done with the holiday season yet ... and the first quarter is gonna be huge!! JMO So ... sit back and enjoy the ride. Christmas may or may not have come on October 12 for everyone, but it WILL come. :)
 
Peace said:
If you watched Job's presentation you will note toward the end he says :

"Wait till you see the rest of the stuff we have for the holiday season"

Most folks have overlooked this little statement.
Hmmm... food for thought.

I don't think that tells us anything about pro updates (still expected, probably minor) because pro stuff isn't generally what people think of for holiday shopping. Makes it sound like more consumer stuff may be on the way.

However, with the eMac gone, Mac Mini just being updated, new iMac, new iPods from top to bottom, and new iTunes... what consumer stuff is left? Makes you wonder. Something totally different but not yet ready? Something cool for pros after all?
 
Yvan256 said:
Exactly. And it would be pretty stupid to limit Front Row and that new remote to the new iMac and the new iPod only.

There's still hope (and a better one, given Front Row and that remote) for some set-top box solution from Apple.

Furthermore I will go on record here and say watch for the "new" Mac Mini and updated Powerbooks and Powermacs in the next 2-4 weeks..
 
Peace said:
If you watched Job's presentation you will note toward the end he says :

"Wait till you see the rest of the stuff we have for the holiday season"

Most folks have overlooked this little statement.

So there will be a media event planned for the release of 'That's So Raven'!?

Without the 7448 (or the dual-core), what exactly is apple going to release that would warrant a media event, besides another meaningless ipod?

Wow, soccer moms accross the country can now watch Desperate Housewives while waiting for the kiddies to finish practice!!

Anyone else excited!? :rolleyes:
 
shawnce said:
Originally Posted by 840quadra

David Hasselhoff ring tones. :p

(be happy they only work in Germany)

*humming I've been looking for freedom*

Holy crap!
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Well, that's really a life saving feature... :D

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But serious... are there any real features that don't work?

groovebuster
 
igetbanned said:
Wow, soccer moms accross the country can now watch Desperate Housewives while waiting for the kiddies to finish practice!!

Anyone else excited!? :rolleyes:
Next quarter we'll know just how many "soccer moms" (or those pretending to be soccer moms) have bought into the new concept of mobile video shows. My guess is the number will be high.
 
Too bad.

Mr Maui said:
Next quarter we'll know just how many "soccer moms" (or those pretending to be soccer moms) have bought into the new concept of mobile video shows. My guess is the number will be high.


Too bad for them I'm self-centered, and could care less if those with OCD now have the ability to keep their favorite TV shows on their person 24/7.

A serious price adjustment on current hardware, or a serious upgrade, are the only two things that I care about at this point.

Aside from the release of 'That's So Raven' on iTunes. :D
 
igetbanned said:
snip ...

A serious price adjustment on current hardware, or a serious upgrade, are the only two things that I care about at this point.

Aside from the release of 'That's So Raven' on iTunes. :D
I'm sure Steve is watching and will jump right on these two for ya. :D

As I've said several times before, new stuff will be here very soon. Steve said yesterday, "wait till you see what other things we have for the holiday season" at the end of his presentation. (Sorry if it is not verbatim)

Be a wee bit patient, my friend. After these additional things are released, then you can rant if still not happy ... heck ... I'll rant with ya. :D
 
deanwaterman said:
My definition of "not being able to do anything with them" was referring to download media content, not just recording what comes over. Never before has the idea of video / TV / movies on demand looked so promising as it does right now. I mean no offense to the other products, but they were hampered by the inability to get content online, whereas that barrier is about to be blown away!

Media Center has downloadable movies, videos, and shows via CinemaNow, Movielink, NBC, Discovery Channel, Fox Sports, Food Network, and Atom Films. Music videos are free. There's XM Radio Online and a bunch of other stuff too.

Edit: All of which is available at normal SDTV resolutions and some is available at HDTV resolutions. They even have ESPN videos for free.

Apple is really far behind.
 
Mr Maui said:
I'm sure Steve is watching and will jump right on these two for ya. :D

As I've said several times before, new stuff will be here very soon. Steve said yesterday, "wait till you see what other things we have for the holiday season" at the end of his presentation. (Sorry if it is not verbatim)

Be a wee bit patient, my friend. After these additional things are released, then you can rant if still not happy ... heck ... I'll rant with ya. :D

It's a date then.
 
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