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Memory in New $1099 iMac is Soldered and Not Upgradable

How many people EVER upgrade their RAM? 5%? 10%?

Combine that with the fact that even I, a pretty serious power user doing Photoshop, Lightroom, and Final Cut have never owned a computer with more than 8GB of RAM and do completely fine...

I'm not bothered by this.
 
JPSaltzman said:
The OS can barely handle 4 GB RAM. Most people recommend at least 8 GB RAM to run Mavericks. And now with Yosemite, the demands will be even greater. OS 10.11 and .12 will probably require 8 GB RAM as a minimum.

So, yes, Apple is selling a device that is already obsolete. Talk about disposable. It's like selling last year's iPhone with only 8GB when the updates require at least 3GB free space to do its thing.
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The demand for Yosemite is less i have tested a developer preview and it is far lightweight than Mavericks. It's more snappier and consumes less RAM than mavericks.
 
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AppleScruff1 said:
I'm not talking about "discount" RAM. I'm talking about Crucial, Corsair, G Skil, Mushkin, etc, etc. These are all far cheaper to buy than what Apple charges at point of sale. Apple "superior quality" RAM is nonsense.
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The other guy was saying that people will buy iMacs and put cheap RAM in them. When you can upgrade your RAM, you're free to put in whatever junk you want. People will do that and break stuff. Apple-branded RAM is supposedly the best RAM available, rebranded from some good RAM company, so it's supposed to be equal or better than the rest.

Not saying I agree with the idea of soldered-on RAM. It should be our responsibility to put good-quality RAM in. When brining in a Mac for repairs, they always ask first whether it has non-Apple-branded RAM in it. My guess is that they're looking for a reason to deny service. BUT to non-power users, it doesn't matter anyway.
 
JPSaltzman said:
The OS can barely handle 4 GB RAM. Most people recommend at least 8 GB RAM to run Mavericks. And now with Yosemite, the demands will be even greater. OS 10.11 and .12 will probably require 8 GB RAM as a minimum.
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I hope you're wrong about this because these newer OSs have almost no features over Mountain Lion except for a few new things in the stock applications. If they require double the RAM, it means Apple screwed up really badly. 4GB, especially 8GB, minimum is absurd.

Remember Photoshop CS3? Same thing as CS6 but could run on an iMac G3. CS6 requires at minimum 1GB of VRAM and 4GB of RAM. A similarly sad story with MS Word and Excel. I have no idea what those programmers were doing. If a spreadsheet takes 2GB of RAM, someone needs to be fired.
 
The entry level is a complete rip off, I don't even know how anyone would justify making such a purchase, unless they aren't tech savvy, I'd personally spend the extra $200 for the Quad-Core model..

Better yet just build a Hackintosh, because at that price for what you're getting in my opinion is a massive deal breaker, you could build a Hack for the same amount with same specs plus a ASUS or Dell 2560x1440 IPS monitor :p..
 
PocketSand11 said:
The other guy was saying that people will buy iMacs and put cheap RAM in them. When you can upgrade your RAM, you're free to put in whatever junk you want. People will do that and break stuff. Apple-branded RAM is supposedly the best RAM available, rebranded from some good RAM company, so it's supposed to be equal or better than the rest.

Not saying I agree with the idea of soldered-on RAM. It should be our responsibility to put good-quality RAM in. When brining in a Mac for repairs, they always ask first whether it has non-Apple-branded RAM in it. My guess is that they're looking for a reason to deny service. BUT to non-power users, it doesn't matter anyway.
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The Apple re-Branded ram are nothing but Samsung RAM.
 
Yamcha said:
Frankly speaking the entry level is a complete rip off, I'd rather spend the extra $200 as it'll be well worth it or just build a Hackintosh..

Doesn't make much sense, you could easily build a Hack with same or better specs + 2560x1440 monitor as well..
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Hackintosh Just sucks bad driver support and you will be stuck with it... better buy a real mac.
 
The more I read news like these, the more I value my 2011-era MBP.:apple:

I may never sell it.
 
brdeveloper said:
Only losers who aren't capable of program their videocassettes don't like upgrades. Upgrading a Mac is like cheating Apple's business model. I'm not a stockholder, I'm a user and I LOVE UPGRADEABLE MACS.
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I won't buy one without upgradeable parts. In fact, I've gone as far as telling clients to buy 2011 iMacs from the refurb store due to 32GB RAM ceilings, faster desktop-class HDDs and replaceable processors. You can't imagine how many people needed memory upgrades just to get to the next version of OS X.

Processor replacements may be going a bit far, but I'm rather irritated that Apple couldn't (wouldn't?) figure out a way to add a memory door for the newer 21.5" iMacs when they did for the 27". The 5400 RPM HDD is annoying too...your OS isn't that lean and quick to boot, Apple. :mad:
 
I continue to be totally amazed at the number of Apple can do no wrong posters - truly mind-boggling that they can become that intoxicated with the company.
 
This is ridiculous. I bought a retina MacBook Pro back in 2012 and thought I would never use more than 8Gb. But then I started getting in to iOS development. With Xcode, Photoshop, and other utilities/development tools open, 8Gb is pretty measly and I really do wish I had gotten the 16Gb. It's partly my fault, but I also didn't want to pay a ridiculously high $200 just to get an extra 8GB of RAM.

I can understand non-upgradeable RAM in a MacBook Air. But an iMac? Seriously? Apple has got to start making all of their larger notebooks and desktops user-upgradeable. And if not, at the VERY least, they have got to stop charging such a ridiculous price premium on memory. An extra $100 JUST to get 4GB more memory is simply inexcusable.

pankajdoharey said:
The demand for Yosemite is less i have tested a developer preview and it is far lightweight than Mavericks. It's more snappier and consumes less RAM than mavericks.
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Actually, that's true. I have a toolbar utility that shows how much unused RAM I have, and the Yosemite developer preview tends to be more memory efficient than Mavericks was. At least for my usage case anyways, your experience may differ.
 
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Maybe said before (i didn't read all 6 pages of posts...), to me this is the cut down iMac.... less cpu, less memory, less HDD for $200 less. Not overly surprised you cant add/change the memory it's their baseline model.

Reminds me of the differentials between the Air and the Pro MacBook tbh. If you want upgradability you'd buy the Pro.. in this case if you want upgradability you spend the extra $200, get a better spec and the painful (but possible) upgrade route.

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RedOrchestra said:
Eventually, it too will get bricked by Apple's change of OS and subsequent unsupported 3rd party software.
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Eventually yes, but how old?

Mavericks operates on the 2007 iMacs onwards and Apple have stated that if it will run Mavericks it will run Yosemite... Thats 7 years and running, call it 8 on the premise that Yosemite will run for a year before being replaced.
 
You are not a Apple User right ?

RedOrchestra said:
I continue to be totally amazed at the number of Apple can do no wrong posters - truly mind-boggling that they can become that intoxicated with the company.
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Hey man i just checked some of your previous posts, you are here since 2012, and your favourite thing is to get Apple Fans Blood boiling ... very Interesting So believe it or not you are as intoxicated by Apple as the Apple fans.
 
dumastudetto said:
Consumers don't want upgradeable parts. They don't care. This is a sensible move from Apple and I support it 100%.
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Of course you do. :rolleyes:

AppleScruff1 said:
Check his post history and it will become clear. :)
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I didn't even see his post before I read your comment, but I knew exactly who you were talking about. You gotta admit though, it's a good laugh reading their history. They fit the cliche of an "Apple consumer" 100%. :D
 
Apple can do what it wants but people don't have to like it.

This upgrade must be part of their strategy. Just a way to appease schools and such until the time they are ready to do their "next great thing".
I think once they can make an arm processor Mac they have complete control over and for some stupid reason can only run App store apps they will sacrifice all but the high end models of all their computers and sell the completely closed un-upgradable computer for a ridiculously low price. They will sell millions of those yearly because of planned obsolesce and relegate their normal computers to businesses or people who can afford to pay top dollar for them. Their just not ever going to make an upgradable computer that is way under $999. They just want to make the best computers that you can pay for, not have you make the best computer yourself by upgrading it with cheaper parts.
 
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