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I am like 95% sure that the CPU in the low-cost iMac only supports up to 8GB

Strangely enough I was only explaining to a friend yesterday how there is no such thing as 95% certain (or sure, same thing), either something is certain or it is uncertain. If it's 99% 'certain' then it is uncertain. Period.
 
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Based on what? I don't know if you've looked at CPU advancements over the past several years, but parallelism aside, they haven't been too significant when it comes to performance.

Nothing is likely to change the CPU needs of someone who doesn't already need more than 2 cores. People have simply become accustomed to bigger is better and the future proof concept.

I disagree. I bought a Mac Pro in 2008 and a MBP in 2009, the Mac Pro was still quite fast and responsive in 2014 but the MBP has been retired in 2012 because it became a bore to work with. Both were the best macs Apple was selling when I bought them, the one with the inferior CPU became obsolete much faster and not because of memory. They both had 8 GB's of memory.
 
Maybe this has to do with being able to brag about becoming really green...

As someone on another forum pointed out - this may have been created specifically to meet a specifications target of one very large potential customer that *required* a certain power target. (Large corporation, government agency, etc.) Likely they really only want to sell it to that one customer, so they priced it high enough that few end-users are likely to buy it.
 
Then don't buy it. Clearly it's not for you. 99% of people don't care. They use facebook. They don't need a super computer.

Man you elitest think Apple only releases products thinking about you. This is for the general public.

If you want something super awesome get a mac pro. :apple:

This is just plain ignorant. Sure my mom isn't going to upgrade her own RAM, but she sure as heck complains to me when her system isn't working right or slowing down. Probably going to throw an SSD in her Macbook soon.

She also goes to the Apple Store randomly and asks what can be done to upgrade her computers when she starts getting the beach ball again.

With Apple's massive retail presence, it's just plain silly to think that non tech savvy customers don't need upgradeability. '8 gigs is enough' doesn't sound stupid yet.
 
I won't be buying one because iMacs have never interested me, but it seems like a perfect fit for the intended audience. I do think the price is a little too high, but with the volume discounts that schools will get will probably bring it down enough.
 
This is like complaining that the RAM on the iPhone is soldered. Seriously, soldered or not, you don't even want to try opening the thing.
 
I do not see a problem with this. 8GB is plenty of memory for most people for at least the next 5 years, if not 10 years. With a 1.4Ghz dual core you're not going to be doing anything crazy computational anyways. I have 8GB of memory in my work laptop and I do coding and can run a virtualized operating system within Windows and I never even come close to using all the memory (and that's with the shared HD4000 graphics too).

Get up in arms if you want though.

EDIT: Even for file serving, this thing has plenty of memory.
 
The straw that broke the camels back, we were waiting on a new low cost iMac for our son, however tomorrow I will be looking at alternative AIO options for him.
 
Consumers don't want upgradeable parts. They don't care. This is a sensible move from Apple and I support it 100%.

It's not sensible at all. It's utterly pointless and offers no advantages on a desktop.

Sure, the intended customers for this model may not care, but anyone who thinks Apple is doing this because it makes the machine better is fooling himself. It's to make you spend more money and nothing more.
 
Strangely enough I was only explaining to a friend yesterday how there is no such thing as 95% certain (or sure, same thing), either something is certain or it is uncertain. If it's 99% 'certain' then it is uncertain. Period.


Lol love it! Logic as it's best.
 
Its about Apple making money. End of story no question about it. You want more ram? either pay 8x retail or pay to buy a whole new machine.
 
This move, as well as the potential requirement to have factory Bluetooth 4 in your Mac to use hand-off feature (or whatever it's called in Yosemite Beta 2) work, and the 32-bit EFI I got screwed with in my 2006 1,1 MacPro (grrr), and a multitude other things less annoying than forced obsolescence, make me seriously consider why I stay with Apple. OSX is great, but the pain of dealing with a maniacal company with the hubris of Apple makes me wonder.

I plan on buying a MacBook Pro and a Mac Mini this fall (Nov/Dec) and if they're not updated with some nice features I'm pulling the trigger on a killer mini-ITX build and won't look back. I don;t want no HD4000 or even HD5000, Iris or better in the Mini and at least an nVidia 760M in the MBP.

Just go buy the ITX tomorrow because it's not happening. Sorry.
 
Steve Jobs would have done this.

And now Joe Consumer marches closer to that day where he is forced to spend the money for widgets that have a shorter life span and then more money to buy the widgets after that if he wants the latest widget. You get that you're likely participating in this process right now?

This is some good weed! :D:D:D
 
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Took a brief look at this model when I read it was out. I immediately noticed the memory wasn't upgradeable, and could quickly see that I didn't like the processor. Most people may not need more than 8GB, and I've found that Parallels will run just fine with this amount.

Now for a "power" user this model wouldn't be sufficient. So as others have said, I wouldn't go for this anyway. I would be more likely to go with a better equipped 21".

Still, I wish they'd given the higher priced 21" models consumer-upgradeable ram. I suppose fewer sockets might enhance durability and reliability :rolleyes:
 
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What!

What kind of bxllshxt is this?! I should be able to upgrade anything that I am paying for or else "I ain't buyin' it".
 
Apple being biggest muscle in the industry should educate people to prolong their macs life by adding more ram after few new versions of OS. Instead they milk money from people throwing their macs away every other year. And then Apple tells us how green they are, with all recycling and stuff... Ridiculous!

If Apple built cars, you'd have to pay premium to change tires...
 
Apple being biggest muscle in the industry should educate people to prolong their macs life by adding more ram after few new versions of OS. Instead they milk money from people throwing their macs away every other year. And then Apple tells us how green they are, with all recycling and stuff... Ridiculous!

Apple being biggest muscle in the industry (lol) should educate people to save their money by giving them the amount of RAM they need after few new versions of OS. Instead of giving people choices and having people think they need more than they do, Apple offers casual users a simpel choice. And then Apple tell sus how green they are, with all the money you'd save.
 
Not only that but the screen will should pixilation on the letters because of the low quality graphics card and 1080p screen. I would just wait for the Retina screen to be release.
 
I don't get this, all of you say this product is for the people that don't care or want to upgrade. That still doesn't mean it should be soldered? What's the big deal of having it upgradeable, those who want to upgrade it can, and those who don't, have the option to if they want to in the future.

If I'm buying a product, even if I don't plan to upgrade it when I buy it, I want that option to be there in the future. It's logic and treating your customers right. Especially if I'm spending 1K+ on it. I don't care if it's the lowest end computer ever, or the most high tech top of the line, can't get any better because the technology doesn't exist. It should be upgradeable.

Also, for those of you bringing up phones. Phones and computers are completely different, you're not going to be doing intensive things on your phone like you can on your computer. Why even bring that up?

If Apple built cars, you'd have to pay premium to change tires...

If Apple built cars, once the tires went, you'd have to buy a whole new car.
 
Well I take back anything I've said about the new iMac outside of bulk education purchases and the like.
 
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