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Do you shave everything below the neck?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 11.1%
  • No

    Votes: 191 68.2%
  • Legs only

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Why should I shave?

    Votes: 57 20.4%

  • Total voters
    280
It is a myth that hair will grow back thicker.

Would you even ever consider shaving your private area, legs, arms, chest and under-arms?

No way dude. Not gonna happen. Not in a million years!! And i didn't say "never"!

I don't wanna be something like a gay supermodel. It's ok people taking care of themselves but not turn into a woman! Next thing what? Lip gloss? To make better lips? Or make up to cover the scratches?
 
of themselves but not turn into a woman!

Shaving does not turn you into woman. In fact, I feel more like a Pharaoh or an Roman Emperor with a shaved body than an un-shaved body.

And I do not put any gloss after shaving. I just put a moisturiser after shaving because the skin is dry after the shave.
 
No way dude. Not gonna happen. Not in a million years!! And i didn't say "never"!

I don't wanna be something like a gay supermodel. It's ok people taking care of themselves but not turn into a woman! Next thing what? Lip gloss? To make better lips? Or make up to cover the scratches?

Hillarious :D
 
Of course not! Every night my girlfriend goes to sleep and put all those cremes in her face, sometimes i put some too!!!
 
I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.
 
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I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

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I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

Dude, i'm not trying to offend anyone but shave every single hair on my body? I mean this is ridiculous... I mean why do we have hair if we don't actually need them? We had tale but it was useless. What happened? We got rid of it.
 
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The lines between chapstick, lip balm, lip remedy, lip protectant, lip oil, lip gloss.. they're blurred. Now, hot pink, sparkly, shiny-looking lip gloss is definitely lip gloss, but I have a few non-gender-specific or even male-marketed lip products that are either too glossy for some or even too gloss-like for me. Then, I'm sure in hollywood, men straight out use MAC makeup clear lip gloss, because if you don't glob it on, it can look entirely natural.

Just to show how stupid mincing words about lip gloss is.

Back to body hair...
 
Haha. I actually find that it's much more tempting to "let one's self go" when you're taken! I mean, you've got them in the bag already, so.. who needs a gym membership? Or manscaping? Or doing the dishes? ;)

Just kidding. Well, sort of..

I've always found this rather unfortunate. If the only reason one takes care of oneself is to acquire a mate, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. But then I guess it explains why a lot of married couples I know seem to gain about 200 pounds between them after they tie the knot.

I really think the pro-hair camps should be split between "appreciating hair" and "being afraid of shaving because it's what a woman would do," because so many comments in this thread are about OMG DO YOU WEAR PANTHOSE TOO!??? AND LIPGLOSS??!! etc.

This last page is more than a little embarrassing to my gender.

There's nothing wrong with skin care. Everybody can use hygiene, like washing their face, moisturizing their skin, etc. But this is about the aesthetics and other benefits, as well as the downsides and other opinions, about men who have shaven bodies.

Why was the last page embarrassing to your gender? I have to ask you- what is it that you think makes a man? Hair? You know- there are lot of guys who naturally don't have much body hair out there- what is your opinion of them?
 
Dude, i'm not trying to offend anyone but shave every single hair on my body? I mean this is ridiculous... I mean why do we have hair if we don't actually need them? We had tale but it was useless. What happened? We got rid of it.

I posted a page or two back that I don't shave any part of my body, but I trim my full beard and keep the pubic area in check. I argued with a few people about how (completely) shaving hair off of the male body is feminizing, as male body hair is a secondary-sex characteristic caused by male androgens. Some people tried to tell me I was "buying into society's thoughts," but I defended my stance which is based purely on (a) biology and (b) my personal opinions.

I think guys look best with anywhere from short, shaven body hair (so it lays flat) to full natural body hair. Obviously some people have thicker, more prominent, darker, coarser, curlier, or unfortunately-placed body hair, so different approaches are best for different people. I will say that when I see a guy who has shaven his chest and armpits, it's a little sad to me, but it's sometimes made up for by the fact that he has nice muscles or a good tan. Now, if I see a guy with shaved legs or shaved forearms, I am actually like "wtf, why?" unless he has an absolute swimmer's build and is clearly a swimmer, as that is the only reason I could see someone doing that... but even then, completely unattractive to me and most female friends that I have.
 
I've always found this rather unfortunate. If the only reason one takes care of oneself is to acquire a mate, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. But then I guess it explains why a lot of married couples I know seem to gain about 200 pounds between them after they tie the knot.

I was being farcical, slightly. I'll say that I used to be morbidly obese, and then I began to understand how it affected my health, my body image, my self-confidence, the way that I relate to others in turn, etc... then I started to eat right and go to the gym to do something. I had no idea what I was doing, but I had fun with my workout partner. Soon, I started to learn about how our anatomy works, how the body responds to exercise, how the food pyramid is completely wrong, etc... and then I started to care about having clothes that fit once I realized my body had changed, clothes that expressed me, making my hair look the best I could, investing in things that complemented, enhanced, or augmented my appearance. Inevitably, I had a phase where my obsession was appearance and perfection was everything, and my only basis for self-worth was comparative and appearance-based. It wasn't long until I saw the detriment and reevaluated my values, realizing that there are more important pursuits and reasons to be your best in life. It was liberating. Once I finally let go of some of those kneejerk ideas and accepted myself, it was funny how quickly I began to enjoy my life for what it was and could be. Some time after that, I met my boyfriend of over three years now, and that has also helped me to realize that I was sometimes doing the right things for the wrong reasons. I also realized that sometimes I went to lengths to get attention or be noticed, or even sometimes to not be noticed, that were hurtful and required time and resources that were completely not worth it, and in the end only achieved the opposite. Being in a relationship has helped me realize who I am and who I want to be, because being single and unsure of myself was just an extension of never being accepted when I was fat and ugly.

Anyway, long story short, I still take care of myself, but I'm not putting off other, more important things for it. And I'm not sulking and not going out to do something fun because I can't see my abs this week or because I have to make sure I don't have a single visible body hair or spending 20 minutes on my hair with tons of expensive products to get everything just so. Not that there's anything wrong with that--and I do have a few hair products some would call expensive, but they're my splurges because they make *me* feel good, not because I feel I need them.

Why was the last page embarrassing to your gender? I have to ask you- what is it that you think makes a man? Hair? You know- there are lot of guys who naturally don't have much body hair out there- what is your opinion of them?

The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.

You took it a completely different way than intended. I think if you have a Y chromosome, choose to express yourself as a man, and/or feel that you are a man, then you are a man. Not that it matters to anyone but you. As far as how you express that you are a man, I think every individual is free to do what he wishes, and that is great! I'm sure people don't find me attractive, hair and all, and that is perfectly cool with me! They can still be my friend.

I am not like that at all about "if you don't have hair, you're not a man!" and I just want to make that clear.
 
I was being farcical, slightly. I'll say that I used to be morbidly obese, and then I began to understand how it affected my health, my body image, my self-confidence, the way that I relate to others in turn, etc... then I started to eat right and go to the gym to do something. I had no idea what I was doing, but I had fun with my workout partner. Soon, I started to learn about how our anatomy works, how the body responds to exercise, how the food pyramid is completely wrong, etc... and then I started to care about having clothes that fit once I realized my body had changed, clothes that expressed me, making my hair look the best I could, investing in things that complemented, enhanced, or augmented my appearance. Inevitably, I had a phase where my obsession was appearance and perfection was everything, and my only basis for self-worth was comparative and appearance-based. It wasn't long until I saw the detriment and reevaluated my values, realizing that there are more important pursuits and reasons to be your best in life. It was liberating. Once I finally let go of some of those kneejerk ideas and accepted myself, it was funny how quickly I began to enjoy my life for what it was and could be. Some time after that, I met my boyfriend of over three years now, and that has also helped me to realize that I was sometimes doing the right things for the wrong reasons. I also realized that sometimes I went to lengths to get attention or be noticed, or even sometimes to not be noticed, that were hurtful and required time and resources that were completely not worth it, and in the end only achieved the opposite. Being in a relationship has helped me realize who I am and who I want to be, because being single and unsure of myself was just an extension of never being accepted when I was fat and ugly.

Anyway, long story short, I still take care of myself, but I'm not putting off other, more important things for it. And I'm not sulking and not going out to do something fun because I can't see my abs this week or because I have to make sure I don't have a single visible body hair or spending 20 minutes on my hair with tons of expensive products to get everything just so. Not that there's anything wrong with that--and I do have a few hair products some would call expensive, but they're my splurges because they make *me* feel good, not because I feel I need them.

Good for you! :) It sounds like you found a good balance, where you were at extremes before.



The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.

You took it a completely different way than intended. I think if you have a Y chromosome, choose to express yourself as a man, and/or feel that you are a man, then you are a man. Not that it matters to anyone but you. As far as how you express that you are a man, I think every individual is free to do what he wishes, and that is great! I'm sure people don't find me attractive, hair and all, and that is perfectly cool with me! They can still be my friend.

I am not like that at all about "if you don't have hair, you're not a man!" and I just want to make that clear.

So what are you? Grizzly Adams? ;)
 
The last page was full of stuff like "what, do you wear lip gloss too?" and "what next, makeup? because that's totally girly! and unacceptable!" and "gay circus performers!" and stuff like that. Even though it was mostly humor, it was just totally about gender roles and rules and how they dominate our perception and change our behavior based on fear.
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It WAS humor and i wasn't referring to you specifically. With the whole thread-idea. I mean you are in a middle of a war, then what? Are you actually going to care about hair? Ok i know it's not the perfect example but i don't believe shaving every hair on your (not your!) body is right. And i'm referring for "normal" guys, having hair not having a decease or something and not having hair.

For me trimming is ok although i don't do it. It's like the line. Shaving everything for me is passing the line a lot!
 
Good for you! :) It sounds like you found a good balance, where you were at extremes before.

So what are you? Grizzly Adams? ;)

Haha. I try. Some weeks, it's more important to get to class and make dinner and have time to myself to get things DONE than it is to get in a full workout or have pressed shirts or get my hairs cut, so I end up greasy-haired and wearing my hoodie and some jeans. It's nice to be able to relax about it all. But it's also a mentality of acceptance. My body is hairy, and I have come to a point where I find it attractive in others and myself. I think it's great that there is another viewpoint other than body hair being vile and worthy of removal at all costs; as I said I think I had a complex about it before. Thank you for the validation... I hope that others can learn to accept themselves more from my words.

And I'm not THAT hairy. My partner is a little more hairy, but not to the point where there is that line between the chest and shoulders. He does experience chest hair going really high on his chest, where it begins to connect with the straggling beard hairs, which has always been sort of cute/amusing to me. He doesn't have "the neck line" that some guys do, because he lets it poke out of his collar (sexy, to me), but he does keep his beard extremely well-groomed so no one would know it.

There is a level of carpeted-ness that begins to be extreme to me, and I have seen it both in person and in.. ahem, adult movies. When it gets to be more of a flokati rug than a furry chest, that's when I'm sort of left speechless. But you know what, some people like that too, and good for them!

I have noticed you shave your head. I tried it for the first time last year, after my hair cuts getting gradually shorter and shorter, and eventually being curious as to what it felt/looked like. My hairline is receding, though no bald spot or thinning yet. According to others, I apparently have a great head for shaving... but man, I should have read more on the internet about how to not go over the same spot too many times. Ouchy! But I did like it... it's just easier to keep my hair at a 2- or 3-guard (well, 3 guard, 2 on the sides usually). I've been told it's easier with a head-shaving apparatus, though. Also funny, since my hair has been shorter the past couple of years, I am finding guys with shaved heads (Beckham, Vin Diesel, etc) a lot more attractive... :)
 
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