apple will jump with Mercedes and Samsung with Dacia, lets start. Apple makes design, Samsung copies the design. Icar vs scar.
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Mercedes-Benz Maker Remains Open to 'Different Types' of Collaboration With Apple
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I love my little peppy C240. When this comes out and if it really is a Mercedes, I guess time for an I-Class Mercedes ;-).
I was thinking of a B Class for my next car already.
I was thinking of a B Class for my next car already.
Maybe! Maybe not. What I'd really love to see is the whole process of buying a car turned up on its end. Imagine if someone could revolutionize the process and cut out all the nonsense, games, and commission based shenanigans that go on now. You go to the Apple store, a dedicated employee takes you out to the parking lot where you can test drive a couple different models, you go back into the store, get on the Apple.com and order your car. You either bring your own financing, or you can apply through the site. No commissions, no games, NO ADDED COSTS!!!!! They already have a brick-and-morter distribution network in place.
The shift in electric energy generation is starting to happen already. Storage is still an issue (there is not even enough lithium on the planet...), but sooner or later that will be worked out too. (Dare I say aluminum ion batteries...)
Electric cars will not happen because of the environment, but because in the end they will be simpler, more reliable and easier to use. As they say: The stone age did not end because they ran out of stones...
Think about it: With 4 in-wheel motors, you no longer need any other moving parts such as transmission, brakes or even steering. Of course the control system has to be top-notch, but that is something Apple just might figure out how to do.
I imagine you'll have a whole myriad of options available on your desk, in your pocket, and on your wrist.
Simply making gasoline consumes as much electricity as an electric car will use to drive a comparable distance. In other words, to run an ICE you need the following steps:
Produce Electricity
Mine crude Oil
Refine crude oil into gas using electricity
Burn gas to move.
Alternatively, you can use an electric vehicle where the process is:
Produce electricity
Use electricity to move.
Just cut out all the nonsense about the crude oil and gas. Use a battery instead of a gas tank, an electric motor instead of an ICE.
Will producing the electricity be dirty? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way you needed it.
You mean well, but your argument does not add up. One needs to plug in actual numbers, but it can easily go the opposite way.
Amid rumors that Apple is working on a top-secret automotive project ranging from its own electric car to a CarPlay-related technology platform for vehicles, Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler AG remains open to "different types" of cooperation with Apple, reports Reuters.Silicon Valley is becoming increasingly important for automakers as vehicles become more deeply integrated with the latest technologies such as CarPlay and Android Auto, and companies such as Apple and Google could play an even bigger role as self-driving vehicles hit the streets over the next five-plus years.Last September, Apple hired former Mercedes-Benz R&D President and CEO Johann Jungwirth, who has over a decade of experience working on connected cars, autonomous driving, testing and regulatory affairs and more. According to his LinkedIn profile, he worked at Daimler between October 1997 and September 2014 and is now Director of Mac Systems Engineering at Apple.
Apple Car rumors gained momentum in February when The Wall Street Journal reported that Apple has hundreds of employees, including former Tesla, Ford and GM engineers, working on an electric vehicle at a top-secret research lab possibly located in the Sunnyvale area. The rumored project, known internally as "Project Titan," could be under testing at GoMentum Station, a former naval base in the Bay Area.
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I would be very interested in seeing Apple's car (electric or hybrid).
I drive Honda civic hybrid, which is a nice car, but Apple's design, however, will be revolutionary and probably very dividing as well.
Apple changes every industry in it, its in their genes and its time to disrupt car industry as well.
The CarPlay is a test, just like Rokr.
I drive Honda civic hybrid, which is a nice car, but Apple's design, however, will be revolutionary and probably very dividing as well.
Apple changes every industry in it, its in their genes and its time to disrupt car industry as well.
The CarPlay is a test, just like Rokr.
Hmm...Apple just hired an engineer from Tesla who worked on their Autopilot program. And other's they've hired in the last year:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-engineer-joins-apples-growing-184612762.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-engineer-joins-apples-growing-184612762.html
IF they do anything about a car, it will be in partnership with BMW, it will only be offered in two colours. It will copy the Google self driving car idea, it will be very limited to where it can go for a while. It will be overpriced possibly unless BMW build it with decent quality. Who knows what it will look like but I think it will be a small two seater car thing.
Otherwise Apple is working on car electronics of some sort.
In fact as it's Apple they'll come with square wheels, you'll pay way more than any other existing brand with round wheels for those square wheels because Apple will tell you it's a revolutionary simple idea.
And you will have the option to have an extra edge put into those square wheels for $1000 at a time to help get over the square wheel limitation...
Now THIS is how you make a self driving car:
Otherwise Apple is working on car electronics of some sort.
In fact as it's Apple they'll come with square wheels, you'll pay way more than any other existing brand with round wheels for those square wheels because Apple will tell you it's a revolutionary simple idea.
And you will have the option to have an extra edge put into those square wheels for $1000 at a time to help get over the square wheel limitation...
Now THIS is how you make a self driving car:
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Because the self driving car is so totally a Google idea...
Now THIS is how you make a self driving car:
That thing is not what you'd mean by "self driving car". You know, a desert race against other robot cars at approximately walking speed is not quite the same as driving on public roads, with lots of other cars, pedestrians and obstacles all around, at high speeds, with people aboard...
Actually Google has done a ton of work on driverless cars for a few years now, I think their engineers came up with the spinning thing on the roof that everyone uses in their development vehicles. So yeah Apple are copying Google.
And that car I posted is Road legal and isn't going to be racing, its purpose is a lot more serious then 'racing at walking pace'
Watch the video about it, they have had it driving on public roads, and will use it to help work out how they will be insured like if you're robot kills someone who's liable.
Just because it's Apple doesn't mean they're going to build their cars like consumer electronics. But it probably means that the cars will be expensive, very different from traditional ones, and have lots of tech in them. Probably will not be targeted towards car enthusiasts but Prius drivers.
Yes, they are not as clean as advertised. They are still cleaner than any gasoline auto. Even running off electricity generated from nothing but gasoline, they would be cleaner.
I've heard it multiple times, but here's one of the first results on Google:
http://gatewayev.org/how-much-electricity-is-used-refine-a-gallon-of-gasoline
They say every gallon of gas requires 6 kWh of energy.
The Tesla Model S 70D gets 240 miles out of a 70 kWh battery. That means that with 6 kWh, it can get:
(240 miles / 70 kWh) * 6 kWh = 20.6 miles.
So using 6 kWh of energy, you could produce one gallon of gas, which would drive, say a BMW M5, 21 miles. (Source: http://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/m5 - I picked that because multiple reviewers compared the Model S to that car.)
Or you could just put that energy straight into a Tesla Model S going 20.6 miles, no intermediate storage involved.
Wrong. Lithium is about as common as Chlorine in common salt, and batteries need tiny amounts of it. Nickel, Cobalt, Manganese are the current battery cost drivers.