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No need for this to be in the PRSI
It isn't a post/thread about the holiday, its origin, its meaning or anything else
It isn't proselytizing or challenging anyone's belief system

It is simply wishing everyone well during this time of year
 
This image sums it all up really:

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Excellent post - funny, witty and true.

The OP wished to convey a pleasant and warm Season's Greetings to all who post here or are members here, and I have no quarrel whatsoever with that.

Odev's post cleverly draws attention to the fact that the time - of days - of the shortest day/longest night of the year (which feels like an eternity i northern Europe) has been acknowledged by festivals marking this by a significant number of different cultures, one of which was the Christian Church which followed the Roman Empire.

There is a nice, big, historical (and theological) debate over the fact that the Christian World which succeeded - supplanted indeed - the Roman world superimposed its own celebrations on dates or times which already celebrated something such as the turning point of the year which would give rise to the rebirth of longer days, and eventually, spring.....

Indeed, one can argue why this happened (and dark suspicions beg certain questions, which is an entirely separate topic), but, while I don't deny the theological dimension, (and equally, I don't really subscribe to it, personally), I will happily take - and return - Seasonal Greetings in the spirit of benevolence and bonhomie in which they were given.

Cheers and a Merry Christmas to you all
 
Excellent post - funny, witty and true.

The OP wished to convey a pleasant and warm Season's Greetings to all who post here or are members here, and I have no quarrel whatsoever with that.

Odev's post cleverly draws attention to the fact that the time - of days - of the shortest day/longest night of the year (which feels like an eternity i northern Europe) has been acknowledged by festivals marking this by a significant number of different cultures, one of which was the Christian Church which followed the Roman Empire.

There is a nice, big, historical (and theological) debate over the fact that the Christian World which succeeded - supplanted indeed - the Roman world superimposed its own celebrations on dates or times which already celebrated something such as the turning point of the year which would give rise to the rebirth of longer days, and eventually, spring.....

Indeed, one can argue why this happened (and dark suspicions beg certain questions, which is an entirely separate topic), but, while I don't deny the theological dimension, (and equally, I don't really subscribe to it, personally), I will happily take - and return - Seasonal Greetings in the spirit of benevolence and bonhomie in which they were given.

Cheers and a Merry Christmas to you all

Indeed, and I quite like the way we've taken fun things from many different cultures and made a festival out of them. It does, however, make people who equate Christmas purely to Jesus looks a bit silly :p
 
Indeed, and I quite like the way we've taken fun things from many different cultures and made a festival out of them. It does, however, make people who equate Christmas purely to Jesus looks a bit silly :p

Christmas is about Jesus, the traditions associated with Christmas however come from many other celebrations as was pointed out earlier.
 
Christmas is about Jesus, the traditions associated with Christmas however come from many other celebrations as was pointed out earlier.

Christians have chosen the date 25th of December to celebrate the birth of Jesus, yes, but the other things we associate the festival with are not originated from Christianity, as the picture I posted in the previous page shows.
 
Christians have chosen the date 25th of December to celebrate the birth of Jesus, yes, but the other things we associate the festival with are not originated from Christianity, as the picture I posted in the previous page shows.

Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Christmas the holiday is all about Jesus, but the festivities (Christmas trees, wreathes, etc) are from all kinds of other wintery celebrations.
 
Christians have chosen the date 25th of December to celebrate the birth of Jesus, yes, but the other things we associate the festival with are not originated from Christianity, as the picture I posted in the previous page shows.

Some random (poorly constructed) image is presented as actual proof of a point? With an equally absurd website address at the bottom that screams validity?

Pardon me while I choke back bitter laughter. :rolleyes:
 
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Christmas the holiday is all about Jesus, but the festivities (Christmas trees, wreathes, etc) are from all kinds of other wintery celebrations.

Then we are in agreement :p

Though obviously atheists and people of other religions can still enjoy the other traditions :)

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Some random (poorly constructed) image is presented as actual proof of a point? With an equally absurd website address at the bottom that screams validity?

Pardon me while I choke back bitter laughter. :rolleyes:

Well go google it all yourself if you're skeptical :rolleyes:
 
Why does everything, even a simple gesture of expression, have to turn into political or religious debate around here? A lot of scorned members or something. Ridiculous.

Because the politically correct members dominate Mac Rumors. That said, I'm far from being politically correct. I say Merry Christmas. If you don't like it, tough!
 
Because the politically correct members dominate Mac Rumors. That said, I'm far from being politically correct. I say Merry Christmas. If you don't like it, tough!

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Just to lighten the mood... :eek:
 
Happy Christmas guys don't get to wasted. :cool:
Nah, go ahead. If you get that far, you can turn around, or, spend the night.

I took the liberty of modifying the thread title
Darn! I missed it.

Indeed, and I quite like the way we've taken fun things from many different cultures and made a festival out of them. It does, however, make people who equate Christmas purely to Jesus looks a bit silly :p
Yeah, especially since the story itself makes it patently clear that the birth could not have taken place in December.
 
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