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Messenger 5 for Mac

asif786 said:
dude, i dunno if you've seen this yet, but take a look at:

http://allforces.com/2005/05/06/ichat-to-msn-through-jabber/

it's a bit of a pain in the ass to set up, but with tiger it's now do-able :)
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I wouldn't advise you to do so... Sure, the Address Book integration thing is nice, and iChat looks sleek and very Apple-like but... meh, the functionality of MSN chatting through the Jabber protocol is even worse than that of Messenger 4... And strangely enough, even though I disconnected from the server, I was still on-line! How is that possible? Maybe I did something wrong, but, IMHO, IM protocols are supposed to be intuitive!

If you want a nice third-party, open-source MSN client, try aMSN. It has a lot of the funcionality found in Messenger 6 and the Messenger Plus! plugin by Patchou. Go to http://amsn.sourceforge.net , and by the way, if you live in Europe, take a bit of time to browse through the linked page, http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ .



bobx2001 said:
microsoft cannot borrow ideas form ichat have give hardly anything back to mac os x. apple need to start getting more patents.
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And you should read that too... You should learn a bit about software patents, my friend. Software patents are putting open-source software at risk... I'll confess you something: I only started using Macs because Linux still isn't usable enough and Apple hardware is just plain gorgeous; ironically, I was just running away from Windows because of ideological reasons (eventually, Windows would be rendered nearly unusable by all sorts of malware, but by that time, I had already switched :D ), and I ended up "feeding" Apple (I'm already on my second iMac, I have a 3G 20GB iPod and a Shuffle, and yes, I paid €119 for Tiger), which would be just another greedy corporation like Microsoft if it wasn't for its passion for well-designed products and other small details about it that make a bit of a difference.

Anyway, even though I'm completely hooked to Apple stuff now and won't definitely look back, I still don't mind *being able* to download and run open-source apps and OSes whether the hardware I'm using is PPC or x86. Just because I probably won't do so, doesn't mean I won't need it one day, just like I have to use aMSN today because Messenger 4 just plain sucks.
 
FelixDerKater said:
I guess they will never add audio or video chat.
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Speaking of which does anyone know what codecs are used for MSN audio & video?

If there is no Mac encoder & decoder for it then theres no hope that we will ever get this

Out of the two its Yahoo that is annoying me, they have Video but decided to leave out the audio, that was nice of them, that makes the video conferencing idea useless :rolleyes:
 
PPC970FX said:
Well good that MSN for mac is not dead in MS eyes. If MS wanted Mac doomed cutting off MSN would be a big thing.
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Ummm not really since there are other clients that can do MSN. What would be huge would be Office....
 
poundsmack said:
ummmmmm.....thats cool and al that thye may port over version 5......buit arnt they on like version 7 or something......why do we get old technology?
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They're not porting version 5. They're upgrading the current Mac version, 4.0.1, so the next Mac version will be 5.0. The numbers don't really mean anything, for example Mac 3.0 included features from Windows 4.0.
 
mcarvin said:
And Adium doesn't consistently kick me off MSN after 5 minutes like MSN Messenger does.
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I have the exact same problem. I recently switched to Adium after using Fire for a while. The official client just dropped me off every few minutes. I don't have that problem with Fire or Adium.

So I'll probably install version 5 anyway just to check it out, but will probably continue to use Adium.
 
Unfortunately this update really isn't worth it and I am not looking forward to this new brushed meta look... I would much prefer what it is now, a sort of aqua, or perhaps the platinum look in mail :)

Hopefully we'll be able to change the appearance of it, unfortunately we probably wont and I'll have an ugly looking thing on my desktop... :(
 
Darwin said:
Speaking of which does anyone know what codecs are used for MSN audio & video?

If there is no Mac encoder & decoder for it then theres no hope that we will ever get this

Out of the two its Yahoo that is annoying me, they have Video but decided to leave out the audio, that was nice of them, that makes the video conferencing idea useless :rolleyes:
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They made that to satisfy horny teen who dont need audio... you know something like some "cough" body language "cough"... :eek: :eek:
 
Agreed.

cwedl said:
If they allowed us to do what you can do on msn messager for windows, I may consider the move from adium, have to try it out first.
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Yeah, I hear that MSN Messenger for windows is kick-ass. Version for 5 sounds really errr....ummm...... *cough cough* cool. Yeah, the new features as in "brushed metal" is really gonna make me wanna hook up my 56k for the 30 minute download.... :(
 
This is a totally craptacular update. Brushed metal and "improved file transfers" does not warrant upping it an entire version number.
 
I gave up on MSN a while ago. I now use Skype. It does fast file transfers, IM chat and audio chat. All with Mac and Windows.

As for video chat, am I the only person who doesn't want to look at the people I talk to?! :D
 
Methinks this is just Microsoft being mean personally and crippling MSN for Mac...if aMSN and Mercury can both have a stab at video (and Mercury even has the drawing and game linking features!) - then why the hell can't Microsoft?

Granted, its a free, niche app for a niche market, but still - some of the open-source clients prove these more advanced features are possible, and it just leads me to believe Microsoft are holding back their Mac client on purpose.
 
I'd rather they got round to updating the awful Windows Media Player, perhaps so it could play the latest codecs. The current one is becoming more and more useless.
 
VLC > WMP
mercury/amsn/adium > msn messenger

it's as simple as that people.
 
Try aMSN

I also use aMSN with some packages with avatars, nudges and stuff like that, it works pretty well. We all know how much is M$ going to do for us Mac users... :(
I like the messengerformac.com web site and the banner, Apple-style, is very cool :D
 
Maybe I am missing something, but what huge features are missing from iChat? People lament that it lacks features so they use a buggy program instead. Makes no sense from my point of view.
 
If MSN 5 supports direct file transfers I'll probably start using it again. They're soooo slow otherwise… I know aMSN supports it, but I feel like I'm sullying the beauty of OS X when the javaness comes into being. :p
 
Stella said:
No Video / Audio?

Then its a complete and utter waste of time.
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I totally agree. As lame as it is, at least the Mac version of Yahoo Messenger has video. And Skype already does everything MSM offers, and more--and does it better. I don't understand why Microsoft even bothers with this crippled product. I couldn't care less about appearance. Include some features!
 
Sedulous said:
Maybe I am missing something, but what huge features are missing from iChat? People lament that it lacks features so they use a buggy program instead. Makes no sense from my point of view.
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The main reason people are forced to use "buggy programs" is that iChat users can not talk to MSN users.
 
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