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Messenger 5 for Mac

monday morning and no new messenger yet.....

i for one am not too picky about my msn messenger features , as long as it doesnt sign me out every 5 minutes and i can transfer files ill be fine ...

:rolleyes:
 
Maxiseller said:
(Clicks tongue)

So, is it to be released or no?
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If it is going to be released then it'll probably be AM Microsoft time, which is what, Redmond? 7:20 AM in California, anyhow. Probably 11am-ish if it is going to happen. They did announce they were releasing this in the first half of may, and this is the last day for that, so it makes sense.
 
Exchange

I don't think anyone mentioned- the Mac MSN Messenger also can not connect via an Exchange server- some corporations (the one i work at) use this for chatting within the company... Obviously it wouldn't be that hard to allow the Mac version to do this like the Win version. I do believe they are specifically leaving features out to ensure that the Mac is not a "first class citizen" in the workplace...

Compare to Entourage, with its very half-assed Exchange support. They already had a feature reduced, but "true" Exchange client in Outlook 2001 for OS 9. Four years later, they still refuse to offer a true Exchange client for OS X, instead trickling in very rudimentary support to Entourage... :mad:
 
i think the guys/gals in the mac business unit really want to make great products, but the top execs are making them slow down the pace just to keep the mac software sub-par.

remember, no matter how bad ms office is, we all have to buy it. with messenger it's even worse, because they dont *have* to update it..
 
asif786 said:
i think the guys/gals in the mac business unit really want to make great products, but the top execs are making them slow down the pace just to keep the mac software sub-par.

remember, no matter how bad ms office is, we all have to buy it. with messenger it's even worse, because they dont *have* to update it..
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I certainly don't. I do just fine without MS Office, MSN Messenger, and Windows Media Player. Admittedly, Excel spreadsheets are still problematic, but I can cope with everything else.
 
Hey guys -

Is iChat AV 3 MSN compatible or not?

It seems to be a confusing point. Some Mac Mags have actually been saying that as iChat supports Jabber, it is MSN compatible, while others have been saying its not. Throughout the internet, all I can find are incomplete answers. Anyone got a clue?
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
I certainly don't. I do just fine without MS Office, MSN Messenger, and Windows Media Player. Admittedly, Excel spreadsheets are still problematic, but I can cope with everything else.
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apologies - i meant most of us have to purchase it - often because of jobs/school etc.

i know pages and keynote are slowly taking over, but i wish apple would either do it properly or just not bother. the usability of iwork is rather terrible - it seems to me like it was a half-baked attempt.

i have a student copy of office, but i dont have it installed on my system right now. i'd rather keep that junk off my system. if there comes a day when i need it, then i'll install it. until then, no chance.
 
Maxiseller said:
Hey guys -

Is iChat AV 3 MSN compatible or not?

It seems to be a confusing point. Some Mac Mags have actually been saying that as iChat supports Jabber, it is MSN compatible, while others have been saying its not. Throughout the internet, all I can find are incomplete answers. Anyone got a clue?
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iChat only supports AIM/.Mac and Jabber - although there are ways of using its Jabber cababilites to get it to work with MSN. See this article (haven't tried it myself) :)
 
Maxiseller said:
Hey guys -

Is iChat AV 3 MSN compatible or not?

It seems to be a confusing point. Some Mac Mags have actually been saying that as iChat supports Jabber, it is MSN compatible, while others have been saying its not. Throughout the internet, all I can find are incomplete answers. Anyone got a clue?
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yes, ichat does support jabber, which in turn supports msn messenger. so you *can* talk to your msn buddies via ichat. there's a step by step guide here:

http://allforces.com/2005/05/06/ichat-to-msn-through-jabber/
 
Maxiseller said:
Hey guys -

Is iChat AV 3 MSN compatible or not?

It seems to be a confusing point. Some Mac Mags have actually been saying that as iChat supports Jabber, it is MSN compatible, while others have been saying its not. Throughout the internet, all I can find are incomplete answers. Anyone got a clue?
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Whilst the MSN protocol is not directly compatible with iChat, you can create a jabber account and associate your msn account with your jabber account. Jabber can then be added to your iChat account, and it will work.
 
Philus said:
Still nothing in Mactopia`s Homepage, Did Microsoft oficially announced it today???
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The rumour is that they will. I can't find the article but it was announced by Microsoft that it'd be out by mid-May, so…?
 
cwedl said:
Whilst the MSN protocol is not directly compatible with iChat, you can create a jabber account and associate your msn account with your jabber account. Jabber can then be added to your iChat account, and it will work.
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WE ALL KNOW

Jesus read the thread it's been said like 10 times.
 
Thanks for all your help with that - Ill give it a go.

Regarding the "WE ALL KNOW" comment, each post has given a slightly different viewpoint. Isn't it the point of forums to help others out and offer opinions? Somthing you clearly have not.
 
blackcrayon said:
I don't think anyone mentioned- the Mac MSN Messenger also can not connect via an Exchange server- some corporations (the one i work at) use this for chatting within the company... Obviously it wouldn't be that hard to allow the Mac version to do this like the Win version. I do believe they are specifically leaving features out to ensure that the Mac is not a "first class citizen" in the workplace...

Compare to Entourage, with its very half-assed Exchange support. They already had a feature reduced, but "true" Exchange client in Outlook 2001 for OS 9. Four years later, they still refuse to offer a true Exchange client for OS X, instead trickling in very rudimentary support to Entourage... :mad:
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Microsoft announced today that MSN Messenger 5.0 would be released in the first half of 2005, adding several new features. The new version will include improved security and the ability to add users listed in a company’s Global Address List (GAL) or corporate address book and it will enable users to view both personal and corporate messaging accounts from one location.

Support for Exchange will once again be updated adding improvements that allow viewing of multiple calendars and increased integration with a GAL. Enhancements also include better server and client synchronization and permissions, as well as improved public folder experience and mailbox quota management tools. This update will be released during the second half of 2005.
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:p
 
Maxiseller said:
Thanks for all your help with that - Ill give it a go.

Regarding the "WE ALL KNOW" comment, each post has given a slightly different viewpoint. Isn't it the point of forums to help others out and offer opinions? Somthing you clearly have not.
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Perhaps people are getting a bit tetchy - anxiously awaiting MSN 5 ;)
 
J@ffa said:
:p
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...And if it's another example of what Microsoft considers "support" for the Mac (as in "just barely") it will probably fall far short of useful :) But we'll see.
 
In the messengerformac.com page, where originally said " Available for download May 17 " changed to a " Coming soon" Screen , So maybe we'll have to wait a few days more ....
 
Philus said:
In the messengerformac.com page, where originally said " Available for download May 17 " changed to a " Coming soon" Screen , So maybe we'll have to wait a few days more ....
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That sounds about right for a Microsoft product. ;)
 
www.messengerformac.com said may 16th. Now it says "Coming soon" with fontsize 36 or so. People are mocking the author around on his own forum :eek:

I kinda like this guy. He is REALLY in to getting Messenger for Mac up to speed. Or up to "en par" with Messenger for XP 7.x. Dedikating a .mac-domain, organizing a petition (21702 signatures until now). Thats grat, although I doubt MS gives a sh*t.

Dude, if u read this, keep it up :cool: :D
 
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