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Messenger 5 for Mac
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Guys you're missing the point about winks and nudges. The messenger clients are supposed to be fun, what you guys want is a simple business tool by the looks of it. I use vpc to run msn 7 and mercury on the mac to use cam, and I have to say the winks are quite fun when your flirting.
By the way, cam is working fine in mercury. Both sending and receiving are stable.
Jay
By the way, cam is working fine in mercury. Both sending and receiving are stable.
Jay
I've been having a new thought about the delay in MSN 5 being released... with this whole new Mac-Intel deal MS may have agreed to make apps for the Mac as full-featured as their Windows counterparts in exchange for not making Mac OS x86 available to other PC manufacturers.
In other words, MS probably scrapped their current build of MSN 5 to make one with as many features as the Windows version (and that works properly) and with run on both x86 and PPC processors without any problems.
I haven't used any of the other messenging programs for Mac.. I use MSN 4 on my iBook and MSN 7 on my Toshiba laptop.
In other words, MS probably scrapped their current build of MSN 5 to make one with as many features as the Windows version (and that works properly) and with run on both x86 and PPC processors without any problems.
I haven't used any of the other messenging programs for Mac.. I use MSN 4 on my iBook and MSN 7 on my Toshiba laptop.
andysmith said:At least that's not as annoying as actually receiving one of those damn winks
I don't even know what a wink is!
j_maddison said:I so hope your right!!!!!!!
I sure hope I'm right, too .
Otherwise... I'll be prett upset that its taken so long. I would prefer to use my iBook more for MSN but at its current evolution, it seems like an ape while 7.0 is like a genetically modified human.
To me this seems like the most logical explanation other than MS scrapping any new Mac builds forever.
It's a big flash animation (about 500x500px) that pops up in the middle of your screen when someone sends it to you.Nermal said:
I'm all for 'fun' features - custom emoticons, display pics, backgrounds and the like, but winks are just annoying. I'd rather MS spent their time developing some useful features
gangst said:I really hope you right to, but I cannot see Microsoft making a full featured version of MSN for the Mac, because its Microsofts way of making the Mac look like it can't handle video etc and possibly getting buyers for Windows
While I wouldn't put that past MS, it doesn't really make avery convincing argument. Are people really going to buy a Windows box instead of a Mac just so they can get some added Instant Messaging functionality?
this happened on another (non-computer related) message board that i post on...nw43 said:
username1: "Hi
This might be a truly daft question...
Can MAC laptop things have MSN???"
username2:Yes, there is an MSN Mac version. I use it, but find that it freezes and shuts down a lot.
Sometimes if I leave MSN online, but idle for awhile, it tells me I'm online and have no new emails, then after awhile realise when I try to use it, I'm actually offline and haven't been receiving email alerts.
V.V. annoying!
username1:Aww thanks guys! I am contemplating buying a Mac laptop.... but love MSN to keep in contact with all my mates OS and interstate....
Maybe I would just be better getting a normal laptop...
abc123 said:
Keep in mind... people tend to make stuff up just to make you feel better if they know you are a Mac fan... or they just say stupid things.
Unless there is an official poll about people buying laptops just to use messaging clients, its highly doubtful that someone wouldn't buy a $500 mini or $1000 iBook JUST because it cannot run a version of MSN similar to 7.0. If they really wanted a Mac they would go ahead and buy one.
Well I'm a new mac user having dumped my windows laptop last week for a new iMac.
The one downer is MSN. I've built up lots of people over my years on PC and all I want to do is be able to have a decent chat with them like I was but instead, there's no option of displaying a photograph or web cam. It all looks a bit second rate really.
Anyway apoligies if this has been discussed to the bone already but what is the best client to use that mirrors msn but offers a better service? I've heard they've all got their pros and cons but which one is the best?
I've actually found that Yahoos chat client is really good on Mac but I only know one person who uses it.
The one downer is MSN. I've built up lots of people over my years on PC and all I want to do is be able to have a decent chat with them like I was but instead, there's no option of displaying a photograph or web cam. It all looks a bit second rate really.
Anyway apoligies if this has been discussed to the bone already but what is the best client to use that mirrors msn but offers a better service? I've heard they've all got their pros and cons but which one is the best?
I've actually found that Yahoos chat client is really good on Mac but I only know one person who uses it.
streetspirit said:
I think general consensus is that Adium is the best msn client on the mac, but it does lack webcam support. For this reason I'm not a fan of it.
Your other two main choices are aMsn or Mercury. Both are claimed to support, or will shortly support webcam use with msn 7 users. aMsn seems to have kind of dissapeard though, in the senose of its been months since the product was updated. This could be because the developer is a student and I'm sure I heard him mention on a forum that he wont be so active while he is doing his exams, so expect some updates (hopefully) over the next few months.
With Mercury its a bit hit and miss at the moment with webcam ussage. I found the 1709 RC9a buil offered good picture quality for both sent and received images, but with the release of 1709 10 this all seems to have gone wrong somehow. The picture (for me) is kind of fuzzy with the latest release, with windows users asking me to turn it off because its just not good enough.
There are other options out there such as proteous (apologies if its miss-spelt) or ichat through the use of a work around. There are a few other options out there to
So to conclude, use Mercury at the moment if you want a good webcam experience with some support for emoticions and display pictures, or adium if your happy with a text based client.
Hope this helps
Jason
I hate mercury to be honest
I think its got a lowsy interface and it feels unweildy to use.
as long as msn 7 for mac can do everything the pc version does and look like a well designed mac app Ill be happy.
I dont know about everyone else but I find im on the mac a bit fiddly compared to pc even with expose maybe an advaced version of tabbed chat could solve this?
I think its got a lowsy interface and it feels unweildy to use.
as long as msn 7 for mac can do everything the pc version does and look like a well designed mac app Ill be happy.
I dont know about everyone else but I find im on the mac a bit fiddly compared to pc even with expose maybe an advaced version of tabbed chat could solve this?
ah, now june 25th, so msn 5 for mac. this is totally unacceptable, i mean honestly. its crap like this that makes me hate Microsoft even more. If they're not prepared to release MSN on time or any time soon, maybe Apple should consider cutting off a couple f programs from Windows, just like what M$ did with msn explorer.
then again, when was the last time Microsh*t release anything on time? (this is a rhetorical question, please don't answer it)
then again, when was the last time Microsh*t release anything on time? (this is a rhetorical question, please don't answer it
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MacNoobie said:My god still no MSN 5 for Mac, pretty pathetic from MS, makes me want to buy more Apple products.
What with all the cool features
p) that are being put in this release I don't see why people are waiting for it when as soon as you get it there won't really be anything newPersonally the chat side of computing is a complete and utter mess as far as Apple is concerned.
We have this great software on our macs called iChat but there's never a need to use it because it only supports people with an AOL screen name or a .MAC account. Even worse, iSight only works on iChat as well.
Meanwhile MSN for mac is twaddle. Try and send a smiley and you get a stupid message come up telling you to upgrade and the link it supplies doesn't even work. Meanwhile forget about being able to see something as it doesn't even support web cams.
It's this side of computing which makes me want to bang Microsoft and Apples heads together.
Unless someone wants to tell me if there's a way of allowing MSN chats through iChat of course
We have this great software on our macs called iChat but there's never a need to use it because it only supports people with an AOL screen name or a .MAC account. Even worse, iSight only works on iChat as well.
Meanwhile MSN for mac is twaddle. Try and send a smiley and you get a stupid message come up telling you to upgrade and the link it supplies doesn't even work. Meanwhile forget about being able to see something as it doesn't even support web cams.
It's this side of computing which makes me want to bang Microsoft and Apples heads together.
Unless someone wants to tell me if there's a way of allowing MSN chats through iChat of course
streetspirit said:
The only way is going through Jabber and connecting to a Jabber server that has MSN support, someone will have a link with the step-step guide
who cares about winks and nudges? sheesh, it is a chat client.... use your words people, words.
Darwin said:
Only thing with that is file transfers don't work (I don't think), and obviously pictures and the like don't either.
Talking about official MSN, how does such a meaningless upgrade - essentially a 4.1, if that - justify god knows how many months of development? I know the PR flannel would have us believe that the folks over at the MacBU are mac fanatics, but seriously, it's an updated file transfer system and a bunch of user icons. The last update was almost an entire year ago!