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Messenger 5 for Mac

Seems like for the first time in the history of the world the Kiwis are ahead of the pack on something. (yes i realise the whole dateline thing means you get to the new day first but that doesn't count when it's 45 years behind)

Sorry, don't mean to offend, still annoyed at Billy Bowden.
 
Bern said:
I agree, I paid for the privilege of having iChat (via a .Mac account)
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Err, iChat is free. You don't need a .mac subscription to use it, a free trial account works fine.
 
It would be pretty harsh to find out that it doesn't support Webcam.

I really need it. It's ridiculous that Apple only has iChat and Mercury that allows for webcam. I don't know a single person who uses anything other than MSN, including my gf, and when she moves, I really want her to be able to see me through MSN. :( I'll try Mercury for now.
 
Nermal said:
Some screenies courtesy of Microsoft NZ :D
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From the above Microsoft page one can reasonably deduce that the new MSN Messenger for Mac does not include video/voice capabilities. Logically if such a major feature had been added it would be prominently mentioned.

So it is no surprise at all that Microsoft have once again totally ignored the NUMBER ONE feature request THOUSANDS of users have been asking for and instead provided yet more useless fluff and spun it as a 'major' upgrade.

Strangely the http://www.messengerformac.com/ petition site now redirects to the Microsoft MSN Messenger for Mac download page. Perhaps RJT has given up in disgust, however it might have been more appropriate to redirect to the Adium download page.

Note: Microsoft also completely missed the plot with their pathetic PST import tool for Entourage, in that 99.9999999% of people want to import PST files from PCs and 0.0000001% want to import from Outlook 2001 for Mac Classic. Guess which it supports.

I can understand and accept companies not wanting to out and out help their competitors but what really causes me to retch is the nausea causing marketing spin they issue saying this rubbish is the greatest thing ever. I remember well a Microsoft Marketing Moron™ spouting rubbish that Outlook 2001 for Mac was now as good as Outlook for Windows (in a pigs eye).

Note: I do not blindly hate all Microsoft things (well not much), I do for example plan to build my own HTPC running MCE Vista which is much better than the Apple alternative (which is a big fat nothing).
 
Abstract said:
It would be pretty harsh to find out that it doesn't support Webcam.

I really need it. It's ridiculous that Apple only has iChat and Mercury that allows for webcam. I don't know a single person who uses anything other than MSN, including my gf, and when she moves, I really want her to be able to see me through MSN. :( I'll try Mercury for now.
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MSN 5 won't have webcam - M$ just couldn't be stuffed opening up the servers to us.

I'm annoyed about that but I want the new version cause I use MSN all the time and hell, a new version's better than an old one eh?
 
I agree with Abstract. Mercury is so much better AND it supports a webcam!! I've tried this with my iSight which seems to work towards PC Msn users. Have not tried it between mac users. But this is a really good "alternative".!!
 
I am sooo glad to be mostly away from Microsoft!

Shame they don't seem willing to provide a Messenger for Mac that includes video and audio chats...
I'm still hopeful that Adium will, as I haven't seen a timeline over on their site yet?

I will still grab this new version though - but can't see myself moving from Adium and iChat as my main two IMs
 
Peer said:
I agree with Abstract. Mercury is so much better AND it supports a webcam!! I've tried this with my iSight which seems to work towards PC Msn users. Have not tried it between mac users. But this is a really good "alternative".!!
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I agree, Mercury is a really good alternative, however, I think it looks really unprofessional and isn't as easy on the eyes as others.
 
Yeah.., still not out yet...i kind of agree with the Mecury thing, it does not look good at all...
 
They've announced it, still not available, they say it's more of an enterprise focussed release.
 
Gee they're dragging the chain, was announced over an hour ago and still not available.
 
Tell the guys in USA to update their site already!!!!!!!!!!! That's where everyone else is pointing to and only MSN Messenger for Mac 4 is there!
 
I noticed that they're still doing multiple executables for the various languages rather than giving us one executable, properly packaged, as should be the way with Mac OS X applications.

It's probably the fact that they're using such old code that prevents them from actually cleaning up the thing. Of course, adding voice and video could possibly remove one hurdle for Windows users to switch to Mac OS X and they wouldn't want to do that.
 
I am seriously hoping that this release would have been announced sometime this morning! Here's to hoping it will be released after noon, MS Time, which is 3 PM Eastern/2 Central/1 Mountain/4 Atlantic for those of you in northeastern Maine and in far eastern Canada.

In my opinion, noon would be a perfect release time: smack dab in the middle of the day! What more could you need? I was really hoping for audio and video chat, considering that a microphone is built right into all Macs!

Argh. If they think that it will help switchers decide to make that move, that is rediculus... they should be helping their current user base.

Here's to hoping that 5.5 or 6.0 is 80 times better and supports winks and access to other people's spaces and what-not. :rolleyes:

With a delay of this long you would have expected a lot more from Microsoft. Unless of course, these features are included but just well buried.
 
for all of you people that want to try mercury

there is a java bug on tiger which makes the menus repeat themselves along the menu bar indefinitely on mercury.

panther works fine.

you need to go inside the global preferences and disable the java macosx skin and choose metal.

then close mercury and restart

mercury is done in java and needs at least 512MB RAM to work properly. Otherwise it will swap sooner or later.

another thing: mercury phones home when connecting. if it can't connect to its server, it denies you connection to msn.
 
im_to_hyper said:
US Site has been updated: download link still not working, though. It requires 10.3 or higher.

I'm hoping they will have it available for download soon!
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Same here in the UK.
Gosh we really take for granted our (in comparison reliable and clockwork) way of the Apple Store going offline for a bit before coming back online and all links working instantly and effectively. This is shocking from Microsoft! That they put a link up that doesn't work after announcing a new product! (on second thoughts, we're Mac users, is it that surprising?!!)
 
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