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Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Again Disparages Apple Vision Pro

I own the quest 3 and it handles the same as the quest 2. Glitches and stutters galore and I’m not talking gameplay. Just moping around the home screen looking at what to play I get random glitches, delays and stutters. The operating system is just not stable. My guess is Meta has no talent, their software and hardware will never be like Apples. On the Quest 2 they kept on updating the UI constantly changing things around which pissed me off because the quest 2 became more unstable. Mark should be afraid because all Apple has to do is release an affordable version of their Vision headset and it’s game over.
 
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twolf2919 said:
So instead of saying the Meta device doesn’t have a separate battery, why don’t you simply tell us what the AVP weighs, including the battery so that it’s actually an apples-apples comparison on weight?
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Because the Vision Pro's battery is not mounted on your head, so its weight is not relevant.
 
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IllegitimateValor said:
Honestly Zuckerberg makes valid points (painful to acknowledge). Apple needs to invest deeply and continually on the apps side of things and not expect it to take off from developer’s apps alone. The VP market will be small for quite some time, limiting the value vs. investment for developers unless they overcharge with expensive apps or requiring subscription.

Apple needs to bring AAA to the VisionPro themselves and include it all free with the device.
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VisionOS 2.0 is coming this year, so they are moving fast!

WWDC this year will be packed with exciting announcements.
 
I really am not a fan of the VP or VR in general but, funny thing, the more Zuch trash talks it, the more I feel like buying one. Weird.
 
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A co-worker has a Quest. I have never heard him do anything with it but play games.
It is a games-device.
He shouldn't delude himself.
OK, maybe there are other recreational VR uses that he doesn't want to talk about in public - but that's it.
 
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If I were Zuck, I would use this opportunity to say.

"Hey Apple, Good job. You did a few things right and few wrong. We have exciting stuff of our own coming in x months.
Game on." This would probably excite current users, apple fans and investors. But this bashing is polarising and forcing people to compare the two devices for now and in future and if Zuck looses it will be like blackberry all over again.

What Zuck is most worried about is the following:
  • M2 & R1 chips - when apple adds M3 or whichever future version with raytracing - its gunna be even better.
  • Stereoscopic 3D captures done on iPhones to be viewed on Vision Pro - (Influencer youtube content in 3D)
  • Passthru enabled VR games and communication, FaceTime etc
  • Vision (non-pro) and Vision XR
I am sure Quest does a lot, but the experience is where apple excels.
 
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MRrainer said:
A co-worker has a Quest. I have never heard him do anything with it but play games.
It is a games-device.
He shouldn't delude himself.
OK, maybe there are other recreational VR uses that he doesn't want to talk about in public - but that's it.
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The ratio of Quest 3 non-games to games is probably higher than the ratio of fully 3D apps to floating rectangles on the Vision Pro.
 
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Zuckerberg should have not laid off all of their AR/VR people when his Metaverse vision failed, if he wants us to take him seriously! Never let Accountants run your company!
 
I think he has a problem with the Vision Pro, why keep mentioning it. I would never buy the Quest out of privacy reason, I mean we are talking about Meta.
 
It seems to be interesting or threatening enough for him in order to do that.
 
He is undoubtedly right. Vision Pro has a higher resolution and nicer material, but it pays such big trade offs for this (motion blur, weight, cost, external
Battery) that overall is a terrible product and far worse than the quest 3.
 
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Don’t care. Both have a valid reason to exist. Imagine a world without competitors. Would the iPhone have copy paste yet?

I like my Quest 3 and I am glad I did not pay more for it because the issue still remains, even on a 3,5k device and this is strapping something to your face.

Also why are people shading the Quest for being mainly used for games? What if it is good for games? And has anyone thought that maybe there simply isn’t much of a use case besides games on a headset that people are interested in? Obviously people buy it, even if it’s „just“ for games
 
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boswald said:
I have a feeling Meta is going to transition and evolve into something much bigger than they are now. I could be wrong (and probably am), but that’s my gut feeling.
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No doubt. They’re trying to become an AI-first company and they’re positioned to do it way more than Apple is. I wish I could have apples hardware and privacy stance with Meta’s ability to ship software and powerful AI instead of Siri 🤮
 
Imagine priding your headset on being a "Video player" - such denial about that games device comment. That's it's strength.
 
efktd said:
What happens when Vision costs $999? I would love to wear a Vision Pro all day, but for right now, $3,500 still buys me the best Mac I'd ever own.
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It's not a mac, it cannot run MacOS apps natively. You still need to spend another $3500 to buy a mac to be able to use the AVP as a single-user monitor for your mac.

Alone it is, at best, a $3500 iPad with 2 hours of battery life and an extremely limited app selection.
 
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