Meta Launches AI Glasses

[laptech]

These glasses will cause so many privacy and security issues that Meta will just come back with 'We are not responsible for how out customers use the device'.

Mobile phones, used for nefarious means, small GoPro sports camera's and vlogging camera's, because of their small size used for hiding in bags to record females in locker rooms/changing rooms. AI being used to create pornographic videos and images of people in the public eye, Meta's VR metaverse, used to harass and sexual acts/suggestions towards female uses.

All of the above having been reported on many many times by journalists/reporters around the world. These glasses will be no different and Meta will do nothing about it.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I don't want anything from this company.
🤮

 

[Ursadorable]

Still waiting for another company to come along with a competing product.

My conscience won't allow me to touch anything Meta is involved with. Not sure which company is more evil, Meta or Google.

 

[Ursadorable]

And this is why Tim Cook has to go

lol you clearly need to watch the keynote and demo

Why, does he get fired?

 

[iMattPro]

So META can collect data on EVERYTHING you experience. No thanks.

 

[tomtad]

Most of you here remind me of Steve Ballmer comments on iPhone. Arrogant, obtuse and obnoxious.

Not all technology equals good. Just ask Zuck about his metaverse.

 

[mybodywatchdev]

The wristband thing is groundbreaking, truly a new input/controlling method.

Cool, but the Nintendo Wii was already doing multiple axis hand movement detection 20 years ago. I would hope we can finally move the sensors to the wrist decades later... can't wait to see what apple comes up with... in theory Apple Watch could serve this purpose easily.

 

[mybodywatchdev]

I'm reminded of this video 13 years ago for Google Glass lol:

 

[elvislives]

adverts 24/7 and 0% data privacy! haha no thanks

 

[Ursadorable]

in theory Apple Watch could serve this purpose easily.

Most right handed people wear their watch on the left arm. I think it would take a hit to immersion to force people to use their left arm instead.

 

[dba415]

Mark Zuckerberg is the worst and Meta as a company is by far the most insidious tech company out there. They do not care and are the least ethical by far. This is why these AI glasses are scary. Because the tech is actually cutting edge and they can get popular enough. Soon everyone will have spy machines on their faces, feeding them personalized ads, and with AI that is only served to make you more dependent on it.

 

[ScanPro]

The company I work for which is a capital equipment company, banned All of these type of glasses from anywhere in any of the company lab's, office area's and warehouses/storage areas. Protecting Customer IP you know.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Mark Zuckerberg is the worst and Meta as a company is by far the most insidious tech company out there. They do not care and are the least ethical by far. This is why these AI glasses are scary. Because the tech is actually cutting edge and they can get popular enough. Soon everyone will have spy machines on their faces, feeding them personalized ads, and with AI that is only served to make you more dependent on it.

What a "future"
😞

 

[ultratiem]

What could be worse, than wearing a camera from a company, which is notorious for privacy breaches, mining user's data and shoving ads down your throat?

I guess, only paying for the "privilege".

I swear that’s literally what they are doing with it. It doesn’t work. The AI voice is straight from 2003 and it’s just all been done, decades ago. They are using the compute power of the sun to achieve the competence of a 23 IQ butler.

I cannot understand how this company is so highly evaluated after decades of making the lamest and most lacklustre products imaginable. Even the original glasses were better and they made them like 12 years ago! Oh, and you have to wear a big bracelet for it all to work.

 

[mybodywatchdev]

Most right handed people wear their watch on the left arm. I think it would take a hit to immersion to force people to use their left arm instead.

Some of us wear a watch on each wrist (I do, since I am a Watch app developer) But yes, fair point!

 

[Macaholic868]

What lunch is that?

I’m not convinced at all people want to look at dialog boxes on their face

The one that doesn’t involve putting on a heavy headset that makes you look like a clown … you know … like the Vision Pro requires today.

I own a Vision Pro, I really like it, but would I ever wear it out of the house if I wasn’t on a plane or in a car for a several hour ride without anyone else around? Nope. Are AR glasses where the market is going such that everyone, including Apple, acknowledges that’s what could actually disrupt the smart phone market or become a must wear accessory? Yes.

Is Apple currently scrabbling to catch up to the first generation Meta smart glasses without a display? Yes. You know, tech that was cool a year ago? Yes, again. Will they have a go to market product in 2025? No, it’ll be 2026 at the earliest for Apple AR glasses with no display.

Does Meta have a pair that you can buy in a few weeks right now that do have a display you can interact with? They do.

So that would be the lunch. Dig in….

 

[surferfb]

The one that doesn’t involve putting on a heavy headset that makes you look like a clown … you know … like the Vision Pro requires today.

I own a Vision Pro, I really like it, but would I ever wear it out of the house if I wasn’t on a plane or in a car for a several hour ride without anyone else around? Nope. Are AR glasses where the market is going such that everyone, including Apple, acknowledges that’s what could actually disrupt the smart phone market or become a must wear accessory? Yes.

Is Apple currently scrabbling to catch up to the first generation Meta smart glasses without a display? Yes. You know, tech that was cool a year ago? Yes, again. Will they have a go to market product in 2025? No, it’ll be 2026 at the earliest for Apple AR glasses with no display.

Does Meta have a pair that you can buy in a few weeks right now that do have a display you can interact with? They do.

So that would be the lunch. Dig in….

One thing that I think a lot of people on MacRumors miss is Apple’s scale.

Apple sold ~500,000 Vision Pros that start at $3500, and everyone around here considers it a massive flop. Meanwhile, Meta, per their CTO, expects to sell every one of these they can make AND also expects around 100,000 units sold at $800 (which from multiple reports is selling them at a loss).

If Apple makes a $800 product they can’t expect to “sell 100,000 of them”. They will sell tens of millions. They also don’t have the luxury of selling these things at a loss the second the tech is acceptable. Or the luxury of unveiling a product that s**ts the bed multiple times during its introductory keynote. (Imagine if those fails had been an Apple product. It would be international news!)

I would also strongly push back on the idea Apple is “scrambling to catch up” to Meta. Even given the above, I suspect Apple could have released a better, competing product this year. But that’s not how they operate. There were also PCs and MP3 players and smartphones and tablets and smart watches and headsets before Apple entered those markets.

So while you may think Meta is “eating Apple’s lunch” what is actually happening is Meta is losing money in an attempt to establish a new category. That’s not a knock on Meta, it’s a completely valid strategy that will probably work out well for them.

But that’s not what Apple does. Apple expects to make A LOT of money the moment they enter a market. Even the “massive flop” that is the AVP made billions in revenue. Meta is expecting $80M. Different games, different orders of magnitude, and different timelines.

To further the “eating Apple’s lunch” analogy, Meta is serving up an appetizer as a loss leader to get people in the restaurant; Apple is waiting to serve the full meal. And when they serve that meal it will be delicious and they will serve it extremely profitably and at scale.

In other words, while Meta beta tests in public, Apple will build and refine behind closed doors (and yes, learn from Meta) so that when Apple does release a product, it’ll be great. And profitable.

 

[Macaholic868]

One thing that I think a lot of people on MacRumors miss is Apple’s scale.

Apple sold ~500,000 Vision Pros that start at $3500, and everyone around here considers it a massive flop. Meanwhile, Meta, per their CTO, expects to sell every one of these they can make AND also expects around 100,000 units sold at $800 (which from multiple reports is selling them at a loss).

If Apple makes a $800 product they can’t expect to “sell 100,000 of them”. They will sell tens of millions. They also don’t have the luxury of selling these things at a loss the second the tech is acceptable. Or the luxury of unveiling a product that s**ts the bed multiple times during its introductory keynote. (Imagine if those fails had been an Apple product. It would be international news!)

I would also strongly push back on the idea Apple is “scrambling to catch up” to Meta. Even given the above, I suspect Apple could have released a better, competing product this year. But that’s not how they operate. There were also PCs and MP3 players and smartphones and tablets and smart watches and headsets before Apple entered those markets.

So while you may think Meta is “eating Apple’s lunch” what is actually happening is Meta is losing money in an attempt to establish a new category. That’s not a knock on Meta, it’s a completely valid strategy that will probably work out well for them.

But that’s not what Apple does. Apple expects to make A LOT of money the moment they enter a market. Even the “massive flop” that is the AVP made billions in revenue. Meta is expecting $80M. Different games, different orders of magnitude, and different timelines.

To further the “eating Apple’s lunch” analogy, Meta is serving up an appetizer as a loss leader to get people in the restaurant; Apple is waiting to serve the full meal. And when they serve that meal it will be delicious and they will serve it extremely profitably and at scale.

In other words, while Meta beta tests in public, Apple will build and refine behind closed doors (and yes, learn from Meta) so that when Apple does release a product, it’ll be great. And profitable.

Apple doesn’t have the technology to serve up the full meal in question. That’s a fact. They aren’t sitting on the sidelines by choice. They don’t have the technology developed to compete with Meta’s Gen. 1 smart glasses. Let alone the Gen 2. Version just released and definitely not close to these display enabled glasses.

Apple’s non-display having, Gen. 1 smart glasses won’t be ready until 2026 at the earliest.You know, 2026 right? That magical year when they’ll also fix Siri, releases foldable iPhone, totally re-design the MacBook Pro, produce a Smart Home Hub with a robotic arm, feed the hungry, shelter the poor and cure cancer while the birds in Cupertino will sing Steve Jobs name in unison and all the unicorns will finally come out of hiding with Apple logos tattooed on their faces.

I won’t hold my breath. Yes, the glasses are a loss leader for Meta. Ask a member of the Walton family how that strategy is flawed one? They’ll laugh at you to the bank.

Ask Apple as well. The difference is that Meta’s loss leaders in the AR glasses space have all been very popular. They have created the entire AR glasses market while competitors like Apple and Google (who actually lead the way with Google Glass but dropped the ball) sit it out on the sidelines.

I’ll have a pair of AR glasses with a display by years end. It won’t be from Apple because despite everything you’ve said the fact of the the matter is that Apple does not now have, nor will have, an actual product they can bring to market at this point with a display and they are still more than a year away from even being able to hold Meta’s beer in that space.

 

[East India Company]

Is Gurman a Meta salesman now? Would suit him well actually.

 

[Rychiar]

Meta was smart to become a separate business entity from Facebook for this very reason.

As for beaten to market, that's not a critical indicator of long-term success. "Smart" phones existed before the iPhone, for example. But Meta deserves credit for massive investments into the R&D of smart glasses, which benefits this emerging market.

Apple is smart to take their time. Massive privacy and safety implications here. Imagine the unsolicited photos and distracted driving incidents that will occur.

I don’t see it. There’s already privacy issues with the current crop and no one cares. And driving it’s prob more safe than anything else that requires you to look down at something 🤷🏻‍♂️ these are the innovation we wish we had from apple still… and yet we’ll prob get a display free knockoff in 2 years when no one cares anymore…

 

[surferfb]

Apple doesn’t have the technology to serve up the full meal in question. That’s a fact. They aren’t sitting on the sidelines by choice. They don’t have the technology developed to compete with Meta’s Gen. 1 smart glasses. Let alone the Gen 2. Version just released and definitely not close to these display enabled glasses.

Unless you work at Apple and have access to their unannounced products and research, no, it’s not a fact. Just because they aren’t releasing something doesn’t mean the technology isn’t sitting in their lab or they couldn’t have done so had they wanted to. My suspicion is Apple doesn’t think the current state of technology can produce the product they want at scale, so they’re fine to wait until it gets there.

Apple always enters markets when Apple thinks they’re ready, and people on the internet often say whoever is doing it (usually poorly) is eating Apple’s lunch. But they’re almost always wrong.

Apple’s non-display having, Gen. 1 smart glasses won’t be ready until 2026 at the earliest.You know, 2026 right? That magical year when they’ll also fix Siri, releases foldable iPhone, totally re-design the MacBook Pro, produce a Smart Home Hub with a robotic arm, feed the hungry, shelter the poor and cure cancer while the birds in Cupertino will sing Steve Jobs name in unison and all the unicorns will finally come out of hiding with Apple logos tattooed on their faces.
I won’t hold my breath. Yes, the glasses are a loss leader for Meta. Ask a member of the Walton family how that strategy is flawed one? They’ll laugh at you to the bank.

I didn’t say it was a flawed strategy, just one that Apple can’t replicate due to its position in the market. And remember Meta says they can only make 100,000 of their display glasses. If Apple released a product they could only make 100k of, MacRumors posters would be calling for Tim Cook’s head more than they already are. If Apple releases $1,000 smart glasses they need to be prepared to sell tens of millions of them, not hundreds of thousands or single digit millions.

Ask Apple as well. The difference is that Meta’s loss leaders in the AR glasses space have all been very popular. They have created the entire AR glasses market while competitors like Apple and Google (who actually lead the way with Google Glass but dropped the ball) sit it out on the sidelines.

And Diamond and Creative created a MP3 market while Apple sat on the sidelines, until Apple didn’t. And BlackBerry, Nokia, and others created a SmartPhone market, while Apple sat on the sidelines. Until Apple didn’t. Same story with smart watches. Others were there first.

Also, “very popular” is relative. We’re talking about a market that’s still measured in single digit millions. I’m happy to give Meta credit for pushing the technology forward, but you’re mistaking early adoption for market creation. The real test will be when someone figures out how to make AR glasses that tens to hundreds of millions of people actually want to wear daily and can manufacture them profitably at scale. Maybe Meta will get there first, or maybe it’ll be Apple, or maybe it’ll be Samsung. But regardless of who gets there first, they’re all going to play.

I’ll have a pair of AR glasses with a display by years end. It won’t be from Apple because despite everything you’ve said the fact of the the matter is that Apple does not now have, nor will have, an actual product they can bring to market at this point with a display and they are still more than a year away from even being able to hold Meta’s beer in that space.

I agree Apple doesn’t have a product they will bring to market this year. I just disagree they couldn’t have if they had wanted to.

Think about what you’re arguing. Apple, who revolutionized smartphones and smartwatches, and has a state-of-the-art headset on the market somehow lacks the technical capability to compete with Meta’s 2 million unit niche product? You’re essentially arguing that the company that created the iPhone somehow can’t figure out how to put a camera and speakers in glasses frames?

They just know being first doesn’t matter, so they’ll work out doing it right while Meta beta tests in public.

 

[turbineseaplane]

This company is disgusting -- revolting -- without redemption, and it starts at the top.

Please consider who and what you are supporting if you buy into these.

 

[spritle]

Mark tries so hard to be cool, but he looks more and more like a less-masculine version of Woody Allen.

 

[Piggie]

Think about what you’re arguing. Apple, who revolutionized smartphones and smartwatches, and has a state-of-the-art headset on the market somehow lacks the technical capability to compete with Meta’s 2 million unit niche product? You’re essentially arguing that the company that created the iPhone somehow can’t figure out how to put a camera and speakers in glasses frames?

Would you follow the same line of logic with AI and Siri ?
As you suggest Apple are highly skilled and could do anything anyone else does, if they wanted to.
So are we saying that Apple could make Siri great and have their own great AI if they wanted to.
Just like other companies have done.
It's just that you feel Apple does not want Siri to be better or have their own AI system, yet?

 

[surferfb]

Would you follow the same line of logic with AI and Siri ?
As you suggest Apple are highly skilled and could do anything anyone else does, if they wanted to.
So are we saying that Apple could make Siri great and have their own great AI if they wanted to.
Just like other companies have done.
It's just that you feel Apple does not want Siri to be better or have their own AI system, yet?

I think hardware and product design is Apple’s strength. I don’t think things like AI are. It’s an entirely different skill set.

I would agree Meta is ahead on AI (based on what I’ve read, I don’t use Llama for privacy reasons).

My only point is I don’t think it follows that just because Apple hasn’t released smart glasses that they couldn’t. And saying things like “Apple isn’t capable of releasing smart glasses” is just as silly as someone saying in 2000 “Apple can’t release a MP3 player” just because they hadn’t yet.